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MaryMagdaline

(7,964 posts)
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:06 PM Jun 2024

Do you feel better or worse than Obama's first debate with Romney?

I felt worse with Obama’s performance. The economy had not fully recovered, and I was scared we would lose. It’s tough for a working president to run the country and prepare for debate. The unemployed guy is always better.

Oh, and John Kerry and Walter Mondale kicked ass.

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Do you feel better or worse than Obama's first debate with Romney? (Original Post) MaryMagdaline Jun 2024 OP
Worse w Obama. Similar situation, Romney lied about everything, but Romney didn't go unhinged at the end like Trump did emulatorloo Jun 2024 #1
At least with Barack Obama Frasier Balzov Jun 2024 #2
This was way worse ITAL Jun 2024 #3
Yeah, well, they never even asked about Project 2025 Mersky Jun 2024 #11
These are important points. Music Man Jun 2024 #4
Worse alarimer Jun 2024 #5
Way way way worse you can't correct age..he can't win Tribetime Jun 2024 #6
Entirely different situations I'm afraid FBaggins Jun 2024 #7
I feel worse... appmanga Jun 2024 #8
Obama went on to win the other two debates. tman Jun 2024 #9
There will. Backing out would look much worse. shrike3 Jun 2024 #12
I don't know standingtall Jun 2024 #10

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
1. Worse w Obama. Similar situation, Romney lied about everything, but Romney didn't go unhinged at the end like Trump did
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:08 PM
Jun 2024

Trump got Trumpier and Trumpier as the evening went on, Biden got stronger.

Chris Hayes pointed out Trump got more and more self absorbed as the night went on, and voters remember that about Trump and don’t like it.

ITAL

(1,318 posts)
3. This was way worse
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:09 PM
Jun 2024

Just because of the stakes. Romney never would have made himself into some sort of dictator.

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
11. Yeah, well, they never even asked about Project 2025
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:23 PM
Jun 2024

Or the Heritage Foundation.

For starters, Obama didn’t have a cold. This was done as though tRump has a normal policy platform, and is a normal presidential candidate. He. Is. Not.

My support for Obama didn’t waver, and at the same time Mitt didn’t seem to want to tear down the country like his company, Bain Capital, tore down Toys R’ Us.

Music Man

(1,664 posts)
4. These are important points.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:11 PM
Jun 2024

Incumbents frequently have terrible first debates. Reagan, Bush II, and Obama.

Unfortunately, this one makes me sicker than Obama's performance because the stakes are so high.

I also hate MAGA types getting any kind of satisfaction.

FBaggins

(28,705 posts)
7. Entirely different situations I'm afraid
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:16 PM
Jun 2024

Obama was up substantially and just needed to avoid falling in his face in the debates. “Losing” the debate wasn’t much of a threat to him.

Biden is currently behind and trump’s (perhaps only) conviction doesn’t appear to be hurting that. If the debate has a negative impact, the risk is far higher

appmanga

(1,491 posts)
8. I feel worse...
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:16 PM
Jun 2024

...but it doesn't matter. I know that if Donald Trump gets elected, our run as a democracy is over. The christo-fascists have already made great inroads and all they need is the vessel that will help them get over the finish line and Trump is that vessel. The combination of Trump and the American Taliban has to be stopped or for most of us, our lives will be destroyed. I truly believe that and I'm not given to panic or hyperbole. And to simply go somewhere else will not be much of an answer because when the U.S. catches a cold, the world gets pneumonia. If we don't beat these people back with votes, any future fight will be harder and much more costly.

tman

(1,252 posts)
9. Obama went on to win the other two debates.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:17 PM
Jun 2024

Something tells me there won't be any more trump/biden debates.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
12. There will. Backing out would look much worse.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:26 PM
Jun 2024

Welcome to DU. A rules review is always a good idea.

standingtall

(3,148 posts)
10. I don't know
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:20 PM
Jun 2024

Obama was a lot younger when Romney lied through his teeth and failed to call him on it. Biden was hoarse, because had a cold and stumbled words a lot. He was always had stuttering problem. He usually has 1 or 2 of those moments in debates, but tonight he had to many of them.

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