Some Democrats start calling for Biden to step aside and 'throw in the towel' on 2024

[Tom of Temecula]

Some Democrats began calling for President Joe Biden to step aside so that the party can nominate another candidate after he stumbled badly in Thursday's debate against his Republican rival, former President Donald Trump. "This was like a champion boxer who gets in the ring past his prime and needs his corner to throw in the towel," said one Democratic lawmaker, adding that he meant Biden should exit the race.

The options for a switch are limited: If the president doesn't choose to leave of his own volition, there would have to be a revolt among Democratic National Convention delegates, the vast majority of whom were elected on their pledge to nominate Biden. But that's what some Democrats were thinking about Thursday night.

It's “time to talk about an open convention and a new Democratic nominee,” said a second Democratic lawmaker who has been a solid Biden supporter.

The fear among these Democrats is that the version of Biden that showed up to the debate — one bearing a likeness to the caricature Trump and his allies have portrayed of a man unequipped for the job — cannot win in November.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/democrats-biden-step-aside-throw-towel-2024-rcna159368

[edisdead]

1. Which democrats?

[womanofthehills]

12. Maria Shiver, Claire McCaskill plus many others

Link to tweet

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Link to tweet

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[angrychair]

18. Well screw both of them

They are not invited to the inauguration ceremony.
And if Claire has a WH press pass it should be revoked.

[Self Esteem]

27. So no elected Democrats?

And Maria Shriver isn't a Democrat.

https://extratv.com/2021/03/23/maria-shriver-reveals-why-she-registered-as-an-independent-plus-her-brother-tim-s-new-book-the-call-to-unite/

[JohnSJ]

28. Exactly. It is bullshit and a sure way to lose the election, and the fact that they ignore VP Harris ready to take over

is a disgrace and an embarrassment.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

44. Where does Maria Shriver say

President Biden should throw in the towel?

And her opinion means what?

[LiberalFighter]

47. McCaskill is usually full of it.

And past her expiration date with useful info.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

48. Losers in other words

Sorry but that's the truth.

[elleng]

2. 'Some democrats' ought to throw in their own towels.

[JohnSJ]

29. Thank-you Ellen. Excellent analysis. +++

[msongs]

3. onesuspects article does not name names nt

[orange jar]

4. Dem lawmaker, huh?

Hm.

[bigtree]

5. the only one quoted on the recordwas Axelrod who's been less than helpful to this presidency with his clickbait nonsense

....is it too much to ask that these clickbait articles aren't just laundered through this Democratic site like gospel?

How comfortable are you with spreading negative opinions from people who can't be bothered to identify themselves?

What is this shit good for, anyway? Who is it serving for supposed Democrats to anonymously trash this incumbent president?

[Cha]

6. No Dems who will show their faces?

Gov Newsom showed his and he said this is NOT helpful.

ETA~ Oh Axelrod.. he's been anti Pres Biden from the Get Go.. so he doesn't fucking count.

[WiVoter]

17. I Wonder If These Dems Actually Exist

Or us the M$M creating them.

[Cha]

19. Yeah M$M makes us

Wonder because they are Not to be trusted 😈🤮 trolls 🧌 for money 💰 💰

[kysrsoze]

53. People are saying...

Claire McCaskill is desperately reaching for relevancy.

[marble falls]

7. Tom, you're on the money, like usual!

[marble falls]

20. Popular enough, my friend, popular enough. Ethics read pretty good in history.

[shrike3]

22. Ethics?

Cryptic post.

[marble falls]

23. Even more cryptic retort.

[shrike3]

26. I didn't see any display of ethics, so I wondered where they might be.

[shrike3]

21. My goodness.

I suspect historians will be too busy sifting through the smoke and ash to worry about the opposition.

Hitler, Goebbels, Eichmann, Mengele, et. al. get a lot more ink than Hindenberg. A lot more books written about them. I suspect most people don't even know the latter's name.

I'll ask the same question I've asked repeatedly. Who should be the candidate instead? Who polls better against Trump than Joe?

And, frankly, it'll be the American people's fault if Trump gets back in. Nobody else's. A potted plant should be preferable to him. Yet he got more votes in 2020 than in 2016 and only barely lost the Electoral College. Who did that? The voters. Who don't pay attention. Who don't even know how their own government works. And they don't want to know. They'd rather watch cat videos. They'd rather have a candidate who entertains them than promotes solid policy. Who's to blame for this? In a representative democracy voters are expected to be educated and well-informed. If they aren't, it's on them. If America goes down, it'll be the people's fault. Plain and simple.

[marble falls]

24. Who is suggesting otherwise?

[shrike3]

25. Numerous posters here, over and over.

And we already have a post about future blaming of the DNC and a very old man who didn't know it was his time to leave.

[marble falls]

32. Do you have any idea of how many of those we've banned since last night? A lot. I took my first hide in years ...

... baiting one of them.

To be clear: four years of good governance and open process was not negated by the ambush at CNN's dog and pony show. Especially when there is no discussion of the observable mental confusion a convicted felon has, who may well be jailed in a couple of weeks, and who faces much more serious crimes in at least two more courtroom. Where's call-out for Mango Jebus to get out of the race?

That old white men like me are more than appropriately represented in politics, (though not so much in the Democratic side of the House) is a fact. It does need to be addressed. Just not during this election.

This really does need discussing. But not now. We are in a fight to save democratic principles this nation was founded on: this is the fight between Democrats and Republicans. This is a valid discussion. But not until Jan 21, 2025. And everyone needs to stop harping on Joe's age without mentioning that Mango is another old white male.

[shrike3]

37. I'm not the one who made a comment about blaming the DNC for something that hasn't even happened yet.

I can't point out who did say it because it's against the rules. Now, I agree with what you say. And I also think much of what is going on now is not helpful or fruitful.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

46. Over and over

Democrats are blamed for MAGAt fuckery. It never fails.

[JohnSJ]

34. Really? and how will history judge IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN? Will the doomsayers come out and say they were

wrong suggesting an open convention?

Or will it be like those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for Hillary in 2016, and contributed to

where we are today, with the David Sirotas, Cornell Wests, Susan Sarandons, Nina Turner, Brihana Joy Gray who still have no regrets for their actions of not only refusing to vote for Hillary, but encouraging others to do likewise.

In every critical swing state Hillary lost by less than 1%, while in those critical swing states Jill Stein received 1% of the vote.

The ones who SHOULD BE RICHLY BLAMED are those from 2016 who refused to VOTE FOR HILLARY, and if trump wins the white house again, the one's who should be blamed are not only those who won't vote for Biden, but also those who won't recognize that VP Harris was there to take over if necessary.

NO PROCHOICE WOMAN IS GOING TO VOTE FOR TRUMP, OR NOT VOTE FOR BIDEN BECAUSE OF ONE BAD DEBATE, BECAUSE THE ISSUES HAVE NOT CHANGED WHERE THE CANDIDATES STAND.

and frankly, anyone who cannot understand that simple logic is NOT THE SHARPEST TACK IN THE BOX.

Nothing has changed, and I am thoroughly disgusted by this pile on bullshit, not unlike what they did to Al Franken.

The reason we lose elections isn't because of the "vanity of an old man", but the ego and vanity of those whose ideal candidate wasn't there, and will never be there, because even those throwing out names, can't agree.

They should be embarrassed.

[shrike3]

38. Thank you. You did a much better job than I did.

[JohnSJ]

40. If you caught Lawrence O'Donnell tonight, it was a breath of sanity.

[shrike3]

41. I did not. I'll look for it.

[JohnSJ]

43. Here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/132123622

and how all these suggestions that President Biden should drop out, not one had any idea how a replacement would happen and where that money to finance those candidates would come from.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

45. Excuse you?

That is a disgusting comment. Accusing President Biden of being vain??

Where in hell am I?

[Sibelius Fan]

8. A convicted felon & rapist has 100% support from Rs

Biden has a mediocre debate and “some Ds” say he needs to be replaced.

WTF?

[W_HAMILTON]

9. And if their views represented most Democrats...

...they wouldn't be afraid to put their name out there.

The fact that they didn't tells you all you need to know about the value of these opinions.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

49. This 👆👆👆👆👍

[Silent Type]

10. Most Democrats will wait, a bit. But I have no doubt some Democrats are talking.

I feel some better tonight after reflection, maybe rationalization.

[shrike3]

30. Oh, of course they are. This is a very important election. AND, there were those who expected Trump to melt down.

Which didn't happen. I didn't think it would, frankly. And I'm not just saying that.

[DemocraticPatriot]

11. "Some Democrats"?? NAME NAMES or else just SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Some Republicans have called for Donald Trump to shoot himself in the head!

Sorry, I don't have any direct quotes,
but I overheard it in some magat bar....

[SoFlaBro]

39. Very fucking succinct and dead on. The MSM motherfuckers won't put a fucking face on the goddamn shit.

[lapucelle]

13. Does anyone take the unfortunate Jonathan Allen seriously?

Who of any importance actually tells the gossipy troll anything anymore?

[shrike3]

31. I read LUCKY, and was quite offended by it.

[JohnSJ]

35. and what those jackasses did to Hillary is a disgrace. F**K them and the NY Times.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

50. He should become a Republican

He'd sell more books albeit bulk sales.

[spanone]

14. Some Democrats are wrong.

[Ping Tung]

15. Either way, I'll be voting for the Democratic candidate and against Trump.

[JohnSJ]

36. Really? you mean the one bad debate performance isn't going to force you to change you mind on the issues?

[Turbineguy]

33. Yeah, I just unfriended one on Facebook.

[emulatorloo]

42. 'Many Democrats are saying...'

Fuck that noise, NBC.

[brush]

51. Not smart. IMO that would give it to trrump and a dictatorship.

It's much too late for a new candidate's campaign to start and make an impression on the electorate...and there's also fund-rainsing to consider.

[EarlG]

52. Wow, there must be a real groundswell of support for Biden dropping out if

not one single Democrat that the reporter contacted wanted to be named.

Go read the entire article. Not one single named source. "A Democratic lawmaker." "A Democratic strategist." "A Democratic operative." And on and on.

I have no doubt that these are real people who actually said these things to the reporter. But the fact that he couldn't get a single one of them to give their names tells me that this ain't exactly a popular point of view. This isn't Trump's MAGA cult where non-believers are excommunicated -- Democrats are usually quite happy to shoot each other in the foot when things go wrong.

Yet the reporter couldn't find a single source willing to give their name along with what the reporter is implying is a popular opinion within the party.

If actual named Democrats actually start laying into Biden from the sidelines, I'd say we have a problem. Otherwise I'd say this is just shit stirring on the part of the reporter.

[shrike3]

56. I agree, EarlG. Part of the narrative.

We've heard Biden Must Step Aside before, and this is just a chance for the MSM to reinforce that narrative.

[elocs]

54. Way, way too many Americans are such low information voters that they couldn't compute Biden being replaced

on the ballot. After all, they're just starting to think about the election...a little bit.

[we can do it]

55. Fuck that shit. Enough already