General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEverybody feeling better now ?
I know I am. Yes President Biden is moving slower on those knees.. but seriously.. when you look back at the craziness coming out of Trump.. How anyone could ever consider voting for that nonsense is beyond me.. Give me slower moving thoughtfulness against crazy bombastic behaviors any day!!
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
KarenS
(5,050 posts)instead I read about what was going on at the debate here on DU. While at first I felt dismayed, later someone pointed out all the video of DJT's lies for campaign ads 
then I felt better plus that and the debate didn't seem to move any of the polling numbers,,,, 
Peacetrain
(24,288 posts)I am sure someone who has a keener take on the polls than I do will report in at some point...
COL Mustard
(8,218 posts)In other words, not at all! I will gladly vote for Biden to preserve Democracy.
PatSeg
(53,214 posts)who appeared to have lost their minds in unison. They couldn't hit their keyboards fast enough after the debate. 
regnaD kciN
(27,639 posts)For some reason, a lot of the elite “liberal” media is thoroughly invested in getting Biden to withdraw, and equally convinced there’s some mythical Democratic politician out there who would be much more likely to beat Trump.
PatSeg
(53,214 posts)something I don't normally expect from liberal voices. In the meantime, they don't seem to have any suggestions as to who this magical candidate could be who will waltz in and save the day. They should all have enough experience and knowledge to realize how absurd their advice is. Maybe brain worm infections are spreading!
Emile
(42,289 posts)
Hugin
(37,848 posts)The second law of Trumpism.
2. Everything Trump touches turns to shit.
2a. The more Trump touches something, the shittier it gets.
So far, it’s right on schedule. By early next week MAGAhick Johnson will be banning mention of the debate on the floor of the House.
Peacetrain
(24,288 posts)
hueymahl
(2,904 posts)We have a very tough situation to deal with. Bracing myself for a Trump presidency. Going to do everything I know to prevent it. But no, not feeling great.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,316 posts)
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,897 posts)Joe had a rough night. How admitted that and is bouncing back.
I trust he will be back on the campaign trail as the BIG GUNS get called up to campaign as well.
CF#45 will brag about he whipped Joe. But millions more viewers will have seen through all his bull shit and LIES, to determine that he offers NOTHING but gloom, doom, and revenge.
I pray that I am right on this.
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)COL Mustard
(8,218 posts)But it's the undecided voters who need to be convinced. And how in hell someone is undecided I don't know. You're either pro-Trump or pro-America...can't be both.
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)refused to answer questions. They were infuriated by it. They got it.
Hang on I’ll grab you some clips.
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
Scruffy1
(3,533 posts)You are quicker on the keyboard than me. I actually hardly ever watch debates as I consider them media shit shows but I watched this one. So Joe had a cold or something. But the way the debate was run was awful. I never so much shit in my life. He must have repeated the racist shit about immigrants stealing you SS and Medicare a dozen times. He was just throwing out shit to make it impossible to refute it all and make it impossible to make your own points. As for the main stream media they are there usual disgrace.
Funny how they can call for Biden to step aside when the think it's ok for an abjudicated rapist and fraud felon to continue. I also think coming to a debate with memorized facts is a waste of time. The only thing that works on somebody like Pinche Pendejo is snark and humiliation. Being down with a cold doesn't really help and he's not by nature a dirty fighter like I am, which I respect. Where I largely grew up in Iowa we had a saying "Never wrestle with a pig. They love it and you just get dirty."I also think Trump lost the little support he had on the border with his anti immigrant crap. Here in El Paso I thinking a high turnout with Biden getting over 80%. He claims the military supports , but he's full of shit as usual because Fort Bliss is part of our vote. We have the safest large city in the United States and yet the media has people afraid to come here. We saw no increase in crime at the height of the numbers. Our Mayor, Oscar Leeser,
met with Joe last week in Washington about the border and I think there is a workable deal. Oscar was born in Mexico and migrated here with his family and didn't speak English at the time. He has the larges Hyundai dealership in the South now. Oh he's Jewish too.
That's El Paso to a T.
MiHale
(13,032 posts) 
Eyeball_Kid
(7,604 posts)played a clip of Trump speaking at the debate, and during a brief pause in his answer, an audible "shart" was picked up by the microphone. Hilarious.
Dem4life1234
(2,533 posts)
Kalifornia9
(57 posts)The salient issue is trust. Myself and countless other Democrats implicitly trust JB with the monumental decisions despite these flaws RW media will whine about ad nauseum all the way to November.
Frump, however, can't be trusted to take proper care of a dog. Not even for one day. It's astounding Trump supporters actually do trust, believe and worship the ground he walks on unquestioningly. It's even more astounding your RW media actually has Trumpers so bamboozled into a hypnotized sleep state: “ anti-woke “.
It's the only explanation left for why Trumpers didn't even notice their great hero deflected every question. No critical thought allowed when Trump phlapps his trap.
Lincoln Project and the likes needs to get busy clipping together TFG's insane lies rapid fire, doing what CNN neglected to do.
Mr.Bee
(1,823 posts)
Mary Mac
(344 posts)John Fetterman of PA.
"I refuse to join the Democratic vultures on Biden’s shoulder after the debate," he wrote. "No one knows more than me that a rough debate is not the sum total of the person and their record. Morning-after thermonuclear beat downs from my race from the debate and polling geniuses like 538 predicted l’d lose by 2. And what happened? The only seat to flip and won by a historic margin (+5)."
He then urged his fellow Democrats to buck up and bluntly said, "Chill the f--k out.
Iris
(16,872 posts)That's and takeaway from the group who is "moving toward Trump"
wryter2000
(47,940 posts)Black jobs did not go over well.
OneGrassRoot
(23,953 posts)😂
I love how both the Black community and Mexican communities turned this obvious racist insult on its head to make Trump look like the fool he is.
I’m also seeing that the Univision audience was very turned off by Trump. The GOP set such low expectations for President Biden that it seems a lot of people came away only talking about Trump and most definitely NOT in any positive way.
Iris
(16,872 posts)Loved seeing that!
OneGrassRoot
(23,953 posts)Granted, it's merely anecdotal but I've tried not to create a bubble so I can see multiple perspectives of any given situation, but I've seen two things happen in the last 24+ hours:
1. People who vowed never to vote for Biden realized his win isn't inevitable, it seemed to scare the shit out of them, and I'm fairly certain they will vote for Biden and dems now. They probably won't be vocal about it but that's okay.
2. There is most definitely renewed vigor on social media with people riding HARD for Biden. Everyone is acknowledging that his performance Thursday was bad but that doesn't mean it wipes out his record and it means it's up to US to prosecute Trump and Maga on his behalf more than ever. I'm seeing a good balance of people factually prosecuting Trump and pointing to Biden's proven successes. People know what they're getting with both men. Basically, I've seen a renewed sense of civic responsibility which is beautiful.
edhopper
(37,370 posts)more voters than not.
In my life I have wondered how people could vote for every Republican who became President. Yet they did, and will again.
No I don't feel better.
0rganism
(25,644 posts)A lot of energy has gone into jittery panic about Biden's health and overall physical capabilities, but there's a whole other side taking shape where TSF came across as the evil prick he really is.
In his direct remarks to Biden, TSF appeared arrogant and nasty, borderline abusive. That's not a look which wins over the elusive "undecided voter". Further, TSF lied frequently and let fly some truly racist, ignorant statements which appeal only to his most faithful cultists.
As time goes on, Biden's poor condition and dismal overall performance will fade from memory but TSF's assholery will remain and solidify. TSF damaged his campaign in ways we won't see for a while -- he can declare victory all he likes but he made serious mistakes that will haunt him long-term.
TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)It is the only one he has and it never comes down or even goes to half mast.
0rganism
(25,644 posts)The less I like it, the higher TSF flies it. So tired.
wryter2000
(47,940 posts)Trump did not win
0rganism
(25,644 posts)Overall it was a net loss for America
SWBTATTReg
(26,257 posts)spectacular performance since then, and not just the one massive tax cut that djt the orange menace passed for him and his millionaire and/or billionaire buddies.
A single debate doesn't begin to tell the whole story, as all of us know. And as I like to point out, slow and steady does the trick, not mouthing off all of the time as the orange menace likes to do.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,604 posts)Big noise, big flash, but nothing else. He says nothing but lies. We all can see it. Trump is his own worst enemy.
wryter2000
(47,940 posts)The campaign had great fundraising Thursday night and yesterday.
GreenWave
(12,641 posts)It was a cosmic groove.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)A pathological liar does not win a debate. The Independents don’t go for dump because of that. POTUS answered the questions.
Dump just spewed lies.
Silent3
(15,909 posts)…it’s because they’re rightfully cynical about enough of the American electorate detecting the lies, caring about the lies, and rating honesty and policy over performance.
I was happy to find out that many viewers realized Trump was lying quite a bit. I honestly didn’t think many still had that ability, since it’s inexcusable Trump has made it this far in the first place.
2naSalit
(102,793 posts)Was how many doubters there are among us and who they are. All those calling for replacement should be dealt with in a cautious manner from now on.
AverageOldGuy
(3,835 posts)We were in the dumps the rest of the night and all day Friday.
On Saturday morning, we got up at our usual 9:00 AM, ate grilled cheese sandwiches, honeydew slices, black coffee, and WE ARE READY TO KICK REPUBLICAN ASS AND TAKE REPUBLICAN NAMES.
We have TWO Biden-Harris 2024 signs that we were saving until Labor Day. They are now in our front yard where they will stay.
We dropped another $200 that we can't afford into the Biden-Harris campaign, and wife is now writing 100 postcards to undecided voters (I don't write postcards because no one could read them).
And we cancelled our NYT subscription.
Slapped more Biden-Harris 2024 bumper stickers on our cars and my old truck.
A Trump 2024 yard sign has appeared about half-a-mile down the road. It will disappear tonight.
To quote Bluto:
Prairie Gates
(8,156 posts)WTF???
Pepsidog
(6,365 posts)I have this nasty feeling like this is 2016 all over again.The media is all in love with Trump while shitting on Biden. Hope his team, unlike Hillary’s, knows how to get back on track. 2016 was all about SCOTUS and 2024 we are in a much more serious situation.
Polybius
(21,900 posts)Not agree to any debates?