Cancel your NYT subscription.

[Indyfan53]

If this excuse of a newspaper can excuse Trump’s 34 felony counts, they can excuse us from making them money.

If they want to help Trump win, they won’t get any money from me.

Boycott the New York Times.

Boycott Time Magazine, too.

[FarPoint]

1. All mainstream media/news are in the same vortex loop of sensationalizing news....

giving false equivalency to tRump and his mafia gang for profit. It is not reporting the news....

Some how we need to fix this....boycotting is step 1.

[Ocelot II]

2. But be sure to tell them exactly why you're doing it.

[MontanaMama]

30. This.

They won’t even know you’re gone unless you tell them.

[ColinC]

3. Done

Reason:

Your obvious bias against Joe Biden that aids the advancement of a totalitarian demagogue provides me a moral obligation to cancel this subscription.

[Golden Raisin]

4. I did many moons ago

at the time of the Judith Miller (Iraq/weapons of mass destruction) scandal.

[Jrsygrl96]

5. I did.

Last year! Never will read it again!

[Jose Garcia]

6. They didn't excuse Trump's felonies

They argued that Trump being elected is an existential threat to our democracy, and that Biden should step aside as it appears that he is not up to the job of beating Trump.

[Ocelot II]

10. True, but it does nothing to help defeat Trump by cutting the legs off his opponent

when it will be impossible for a variety of reasons to replace him. Replace him with whom, and how, and with what money?

[FakeNoose]

27. Well NYT is gonna look like a-holes in November aren't they?

I haven't had a subscription to NYT for over a decade. But I'll admit that I do like some of their writers, just not the employer.

[GoodRaisin]

61. They look like A-holes right now.

They look like they are trying to influence the election to Trump.

[RandomNumbers]

75. But NYT should KNOW better.

See EarlG's thread from this morning about what would need to be done.

There is NO credible replacement that wouldn't be more risky than Biden, and I am sure Biden knows it.

I agree that TPTB in the Dem Party need to be working out a contingency strategy in case Biden's health takes a sharp turn. But that debate performance was NOT an indicator of that serious a health issue.

[Eliot Rosewater]

78. Whether it is NYT or UPS, I do NOT and will NEVER understand how they CANT see

the threat the traitor poses to their well being.

I know mega corps think they will do better without regs, but what about when trump and putin and kim jong decide THEY own UPS and THEY own NYT.

I was MOCKED here the other day when I suggested putin would take your home and money when he takes power here along with trump, so even folks on the left are still in denial, some of them.

JOE IS FINE, like you said!

[H2O Man]

87. Right.

Yet the NYT is bought by democrats, republicans, and independents. They are in the business to make money. They are no more likely to attack the felon & his cult in the same way we do here, than is McDonalds. Those who are addicted to money, like those addicted to meth, should not be expected to behave in good behavior. You'll be disappointed every time.

[Ms. Toad]

90. You apparently didn't read the editorial.

The entire premise of the editorial is that Trump is such a significant threat to democracy that he must be defeated in November, even if it requires Biden stepping aside to accomplish that.

[Eliot Rosewater]

95. Exactly, like most I did not and like most all I saw was this alleged credible paper's HEADLINE calling him to

step down. Which does FAR more harm than good. That headline. I tried to link the actual photo of the headline but it wont appear.

I venture to guess 97 out of 100 who see it DONT read it.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/29/new-york-times-first-us-paper-urging-joe-biden-to-drop-out-of-presidential-race

Add the MILLIONS who only heard the NYT wants him to step down.

Reminds me of the alleged progs who said they would have to hold their nose to vote for Hillary. All you had to do as a fence sitter was hear that and you dont vote.

[Ms. Toad]

97. It's up to all responsible people to engage in critical thinking.

That requires journalists (and editorial writers) to use more than a sentence (the headline) to convey ideal - and readers to read the entire article and maybe even go beyond the article.

At a bare minimum, don't make allegations about what the editorial says based solely on the headline.

[BoRaGard]

7. The Times has really lost its way

They are not worthy of respect

[William Seger]

39. In the escalating attacks on democracy by right-wing authoritarianism and tribalism...

... the NYT announced it would be unbiased. Fuck that!

[OnDoutside]

8. I wish everyone would. The NYT is no friend of Democracy. They were already in the can for Trump in 2016.

[mountain grammy]

11. they seem to be in denial about trump..

how about that? He praised Putin during the "debate" no mentions.

[Delphinus]

14. To what

are they not in denial?

[BWdem4life]

21. Welcome to DU.

[camartinwv]

12. I cancelled my NYT subscription some time ago for their pro Trump nonsense.

[Owl]

13. Did last year.

[happy feet]

15. I already did with the explicit reason of their vendetta against Biden --- had enough

[EastBayGuy]

16. Yes, from the NYT to the WaPo, and now at the Guardian UK

I'm at peace now.

[Silent Type]

25. Like Guardian too. This is what they said yesterday, "Even Democrats are now saying it might be time . . . . . .

"‘It scares me’: voters voice alarm and disappointment over Biden’s debate performance. Even Democrats are now saying it might be time for Biden to ‘hang up the spurs’ after disastrous debate."

"Ron Ringlund is the president of a machine shop in southern Wisconsin. At 71 years old, he knows what it’s like to keep working after many have retired and had shrugged off concerns about Joe Biden’s age – until last night.

"“I was thinking, ‘Well, it’s just the Republicans are putting that out there to make him look bad,’ you know – but he looked bad last night,” said Ringlund, who said he usually votes for Democrats, and views Donald Trump as a threat to democracy. “Wisconsin’s neck and neck right now, and just one thing can make the difference. And I think last night could have been the difference, and it scares me.”

"After Biden’s difficult debate performance on Thursday, Democrats and independent voters in swing states say they are increasingly disappointed and alarmed by the choice before them in November."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/28/voter-reaction-debate-biden-trump

[hadEnuf]

34. The choices in November?

A guy who flubbed a line in a debate or an unhinged budding dictator openly saying he will tear up the Constitution and tear down government, who has a political hit list ready to go.

Hmm, so vexing....

[Silent Type]

41. I get it. Unfortunately, 10% or so of voters do so based upon optics.

[hadEnuf]

59. Yes and we need to educate that 10%.

Not follow the Republicans down the "Sleepy Joe" rabbit hole that they are sure to exploit.

[markodochartaigh]

63. "We need to educate..."

Yes, although I would argue that it is the one third or so of the electorate who don't vote (around one third are actually authoritarians, or ok with authoritarianism). Ignorance and apathy are the Achilles' heels of democracy. If we had more education and engagement we would not be where we are now.

[TexasDem69]

60. "Flubbed a line"?

That’s a bit of an understatement. I watched the debate and agree with the stories that labeled it a “disaster.”

[hadEnuf]

66. Trump has done much, much worse.

And the Republicans and media barely bat an eyelash. On the other hand, seeing that Biden didn't walk on water this time we are busy setting Biden and ourselves on fire, perpetuing the Republican narrative for them.

How about we all stick behind our candidate, plow through this fucking nonsense and continue to show the stark differences between Joe Biden and this proven monster Trump.

[TexasDem69]

69. This isn't about Trump though

It’s about Biden reinforcing the narrative by his appearance and performance. We all agree Trump is a horrible person who shouldn’t be anywhere near the White House

[hadEnuf]

72. And so we need to make it not about Biden

And plow through the bullshit instead of hysterically throwing our candidate under the bus.

The GOP sticks with their candidate through thick and thin, then make a comeback. We stuff ours under the bus (ie., Franken) and just lose a good person.

See a pattern here?

[onecaliberal]

40. I like the Guardian too.

[lark]

17. Quit reading Times years and years ago and cancelled my NYT subscription last year.

They are way too in the can for tcf.

[valleyrogue]

18. I never subscribed to them and never will

Their journalistic malpractice goes at least as far back as Whitewater, which was all but a fabrication, and their "star" reporter, Jeff Gerth, should have been fired and barred from journalism. He later won a Pulitzer.

Nothing new under the sun with the NYT. In the case of Biden, the bigwigs of the newspaper got all butthurt because Biden didn't give them access.

[Sanity Claws]

19. DONE

I actually unsubscribed about a month ago because of their biased coverage.
Yesterday I got their email saying that the editorial board urges Biden to step down. At that point, I unsubscribed from all of their emails.

[Jean Genie]

20. MSM

Yes indeed! MSM sucks! I refuse to read NY TIMES, WaPo, and any other Trump-hiney kissers. Go to Meidas Touch to get REAL news!

[jayschool2013]

26. Seriously

Hundreds of journalists (some of whom are better than others) pumping out reams of valuable (and occasional not-so-valuable) information every day versus five guys you agree with putting out videos.

OK.

You can read critically and disagree with their opinions.

I'll continue my subscription, and I'll share gift links to those who want only free news they agree with.

[whathehell]

31. "Serioiusly"?

Um, no...The word is "seriously".

[jayschool2013]

36. Dang

I just noticed that.

Gonna fix.

Thanks for setting me straight.

[whathehell]

68. ...........

Happy to be of service.

[onecaliberal]

42. Thank for letting me know so I can avoid.

[jayschool2013]

46. You're welcome!

NFM

I'll be reading the NYT, the WaPo, the Baltimore Banner, the Omaha World-Herald and the Stevenson Villager (the student newspaper I advise).

I can share all of those if you'd like to avoid all of them.

What news sources will you be sharing?

Thanks!

[c-rational]

23. Canceled years ago for their propaganda headlines and coverage of the 2016 election and the

dUmpster's fist term - e.g. Is Dump redifining the Presidency. No he trashed it!

[jayschool2013]

24. I'll keep it

I can read critically and disagree with their opinion pieces.

But thank you.

[Doc Sportello]

80. Do you teach your students to be condescending?

That's something I didn't learn in journalism school and did not teach to my students. Perhaps the reasons for people unsubscribing to these publications has nothing to do with an inability to read dissenting opinions or an inability to "read critically" as you imply. Snarkiness doesn't help your cause either.

[jayschool2013]

81. D'oh.

My bad.

[Doc Sportello]

82. Just wondered

Of course I went to and taught at one of the top journalism schools in the country. Guess they teach things differently at Stevenson.

[jayschool2013]

83. This is my retirement job

I have taught and advised student media at the University of Colorado, the University of Kansas, the University of Iowa and Colorado State University.

Thanks for assuming I'm a piker.

On edit: Stevenson doesn't have a journalism program, so it's a different ballgame there. I work in a small communications department of five faculty. I'm the only non-academic.

[SocialDemocrat61]

85. It is amazing

that those who are apologizing for and funding propaganda are acting as though it makes them superior to those who value truth and democracy.

[bif]

28. Nope.

We've been getting the Sunday Times for years. It's still a great paper, especially good for its international coverage. And I love the Arts & Leisure section and the Book Review. And my wife does the daily crossword puzzle, Wordle, and Spelling Bee.

[lisa58]

29. I already did...

Just effen’ done with them

[bringthePaine]

32. ditched 'em years ago over Cheney "yellowcake" bullshit👍

[Stardust Mirror]

33. after the lead up to the 2016 election

I was done with the NYTimes. That xmas I was given gift subscription and I deliberately never used it.

[SocialDemocrat61]

35. Good for you!

Stop funding their propaganda.

[onecaliberal]

37. Did this two years ago.

[Efilroft Sul]

38. The Times wants everyone to remember Biden's debate performance but forget Trump's presidency and last four years.

And the newspaper's editorial staff will use Trump's promise and follow-through of retribution to drive clicks and subscriptions right up to the moment they're all put up against the wall and shot.

Death by late-stage capitalism and the media's complicit subversion of the First Amendment: It doesn't get more American than that.

[UpInArms]

43. Can't cancel what I cancelled in 2017

The NYT is a disgrace

[Ritabert]

44. I've been boycotting them for years

...as well as all cable news including Fox, CNN and MSNBC.

[Layzeebeaver]

45. wait, what? You actually had a subscription?

Oh, sorry. What is the NYTs?

[C OH Dem]

47. I subscribe to the Washington Post.

They seem to be a more balanced news source that I can rely on.

[hueymahl]

48. It's hilarious that Democrats are now calling NYT biased

Republicans have been doing that for years.

[ificandream]

49. And Donald Trump thanks you for the suggestion. Since it's one he'd make.

In case you hadn't noticed, it's the maga thing to make people hate the legitimate press. They rarely complain about Fox and the other right-wing media scum. There's a reason for that.

[CaptainTruth]

50. Never had a subscription, never will.

[nikatnyte]

51. I cancelled my subscription months ago.

Enough was enough. Sad end for a once-stellar publication.

[former9thward]

86. The NYT is not at an end.

Just your relationship with it. It will keep going.

[Warpy]

52. I don't know why anyone is shocked by any of this

The Gray Lady was pimping herself out to the highest bidders 50 years ago. If I was in NYC long enough to want a Sunday paper, I'd find a news kiosk with out of town papers and get either a Boston Globe or aWaPo. The only thing worth reading was the NYT Book Review.

Nothing printed in the gray ink in the NYT columns was much worth the effort to read, honestly.

[Polly Hennessey]

53. I did four years ago. Never read it. My only contact

with it is through DU. Same for Washington Post.

[SupportSanity]

54. I'll listen to them (NYT) as soon as they listen to us.

[PortTack]

55. Cancelled sometime ago....

[Patton French]

56. Long since done. NT

[brooklynite]

57. Nope

I’m guessing 1) most people are reacting to the “Biden should step down” editorial and 2) most people didn’t actually read it.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19075983

I’m also guessing people will want a way around the paywall the next time there’s a big story.

[TexasDem69]

62. The Times and WaPo

Are two of the most dependable and honest news sources in the U.S.

[brooklynite]

73. Too many people don't want to read anything they disagree with..

[TexasDem69]

76. Yep

Which is no different than the right-wing folks who refuse to watch anything other than FoxNews.

[Elessar Zappa]

89. Washington Post is fine.

NYT lost me when all they could report in 2016 was “her emails!”. Every single day.

[JonAndKatePlusABird]

94. Nope, no overfocus on the emails to see here.....

[reACTIONary]

58. Are you referring to the editorial advising...

... an alternate candidate?

'If this excuse of a newspaper can excuse Trump’s 34 felony counts"
They didn't excuse anything. The called tsf an existential danger to democracy.

"If they want to help Trump win"
They state very plainly that they DON'T want tsf to win, and that is the reason for their stance.

I don't agree with them. But you are mischaracterizing their position.

[meow2u3]

64. I canceled my NYT subscription a couple of years ago due to pro-Trump bias

I can't stomach propaganda disguised as news, so I had canceled my subscription. I told them the pro-Trump, anti-democratic bias was unbearable. They're trying to turn Americans against the American experiment all so they can profit off our misery.

[Blue Owl]

65. K&R

[ajustworld]

67. no to NY Times

I just cancelled my NY Times subscription and told them exactly why. It's changed into a right-wing paper!

[J_William_Ryan]

70. It's not just the Times, of course.

It’s about the media’s desire for the spectacle and profits of four years of Trump insanity and disaster.

[gulliver]

71. Keeping it for now. Getting close though.

Their editorial leadership has been grossly disappointing. They need to understand that being too careful is suicide. They should be calling for Trump to withdraw from the race on the grounds that he is a lowlife.

[jayschool2013]

74. They have done that.

Repeatedly. Most recently after his May 30 conviction.

[gulliver]

77. I'm a long-time subscriber and don't remember it.

The call for Biden to withdraw was their editorial board in a pronounced, clear statement. To my knowledge, there is no such animal for the much, much stronger Trump case they should be making. I'm open to correction if you have a link.

[Iggo]

79. LOL .... Why do you have a NYT subscription?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

84. A majority of Americans now believe that the 172 year old New York Times is too old to be an effective newspaper

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[AwakeAtLast]

88. That includes Wordle

That means I'm out!

[4lbs]

91. Remember a few years ago when Dumpy the Clown called them "the failing New York Times" ?

Then they started giving him some 'good press' and opinion pieces.

Now, neither he nor his family blast them verbally.

Hmmmmm.....

From 2017 on... wait for it... CNN.com

https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/20/politics/trump-new-york-times/index.html

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President Donald Trump was sworn in on Jan. 20. Between that day and today, he has referred to the New York Times as “failing” in no fewer than 17 tweets.

Which begs the question: Why, on Wednesday, did Trump give three New York Times reporters nearly an hour of his time for a sit-down interview in which he touched on everything from Attorney General Jeff Sessions to French President Emmanuel Macron’s penchant for hand-holding to his theories about the cold-weather attributes of Russian soldiers?

If the New York Times is, indeed, “failing,” a “joke,” and “fake news” – all of which Trump has called it this year – why acknowledge they even exist much less spend an hour with them?

Or, in the words of Anderson Cooper: “Why on God’s green earth does the President of the United States gives this interview today of all days when the focus is supposed to be on health care and this is also Buy American Week?”

The answer is simple: Donald Trump doesn’t think the New York Times is failing. Or a joke. Or fake news. Far from it.

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[ImNotGod]

92. I refuse to subscribe to any billionaire news source but I do donate to The Guardian. nt

[BigmanPigman]

93. I canceled both NYT and WaPo

about 6 months ago. I only subscribed to them in 2017 when people were saying we need to support the unbiased press. I wanted to cancel for a long time but when they screwed up a report from Gaza and did not admit their journalist was wrong I said, "Enough of this shit!".

[Violet_Crumble]

96. I subscribe to the NYT and the Guardian...

I've kept my subscription with the NYT mainly coz I have to call to cancel it, and the time zone differences make it hard. But every time I read the NYT I get annoyed coz of the way they make out that Trump is a legitimate candidate when he's not. I'm also annoyed at the pro-Israel bias they have. So I think I'm going to cancel it this week and keep the Guardian and add the Sydney Morning Herald or the Canberra Times...

[LetMyPeopleVote]

98. I cancelled my NYT subscription back in 2015 and I am glad that other people are cancelling their subscriptions

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[LetMyPeopleVote]

99. Almost every single story on the New York Times' 2024 Elections homepage right now is some version of "Biden sucks."

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