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[claudette]

1. In my state

For early voting the ballots aren’t printed until after the candidate is chosen at the convention

[Hope22]

3. Early mail in ballots have your ID on them until they are ready to be counted.

That is why they have a signature on the outside envelope that contains another unmarked privacy envelope where the ballot is contained. In the event of an emergency the state can identify your ballot until those envelopes are separated.

[getagrip_already]

4. I belive once the candidates names are.submitted to the states, they are locked in

Your vote, and all others for your candidate would count.

If your dead candidates win (and they would still be the best candidates), the electoral college would meet to and their nominated electors would choose the next potus/vpotus.

Remember, we are not a direct democracy. We elect electoral college representatives, and they choose the ptis.

As long as a candidate acquires more than 269 electors, those electors choose the next potus.

[getagrip_already]

8. There would be no "replacement" candidate on the ballot....

Your dead candidates are the ones everyone votes for. Your replacement candidates would be foolish to run on a third party ticket or as write in vote. It would split the vote.

The party could tell people that even though they are voting the dead smith/Jones ticket, the electors will establish gomez/Diaz as potus/vpotus should smith/Jones win.

Once the ballots are locked, that's it. No turning back.

[getagrip_already]

25. That would be up to each state....

Mine doesn't do any of that on the ballot itself. Once you get your ballot, it only has posions, parties, and names. No other information.

There is a ballot book sent out ahead of time, but I'm not sure when it is printed or what the deadlines or process to include new info is.

[Hekate]

16. I do see your concern now. I see that you are concerned. Very, very concerned.

So concerned.

[Groundhawg]

5. This is why I'm not a fan of early voting

[Groundhawg]

9. Best way to make your vote count is to vote on election day

[DemocraticPatriot]

13. That is a Trump talking point, and obviously untrue besides.

Bank your vote early, and it will be counted.

Wait until election day, and maybe you're sicker than a dog and can't make it to the polls,
or for a host of other possible reasons....

[Groundhawg]

17. it could be counted for a candidate not running anymore.

[DemocraticPatriot]

18. We don't actually vote for presidential candidates--- we vote for their electors....

and those votes will count whether the actual candidate is alive or not. Then those electors would vote in the electoral college, for whatever candidate is selected by the party to replace the deceased candidate, in such an instance.

What happens if the candidate dies 3 days before the election? Even if you wait for election day, there are not going to be new ballots with someone else's name on them, ANYWHERE.... but people could and would still vote for the electors of the deceased candidate, and those votes would count-- whether cast on election day, or 4 weeks earlier.

And your argument for same-day only voting is STILL a Trump talking point and a non-starter here.

[DemocraticPatriot]

27. It has never happened before...

but as explained previously, we are not voting for the actual presidential candidate but for their electors-- so even if the candidate to whom they were pledged were to die, if they have the most votes, they will still be elected to the electoral college.

The other side can claim whatever they want in such a case, but it is unlikely to stand up in any court-- since it is the state's electors who are technically being elected in the general election, and not the candidates themselves. However, you are right that lawsuits would probably be brought in such an instance, but the cases would be very weak.

The President is actually elected by the electoral college in the December after the general election.

Ah, the party's electors are chosen by the party-- and there would be no change in the party's electors if a candidate died--- so both votes cast in the name of the dead candidate and a replacement candidate would be counted for that party's electors, and there would be no "lost votes".

[getagrip_already]

26. You are clutching your pearls a bit too hard.

Yes biden is 81, but trump is 78 and has had mini strokes with active signs of dementia, obesity, and very serious neurolical issues. Kennedy is also in his 70's and has had brain worms and who knows what else.

Kamala Harris is young and healthy. We don't know who tsf's running mate will be other than they will be evil.

Remember, you aren't voting for a person. You are literally voting for the kind of future you want to live in.

Putins russia? Kim's nk? Or the US, where you can vote, live and travel where you want, post on the internet freely, and pursue your goals free from tyrany (or at least try with a lot of help)?

[Rstrstx]

10. By that logic we shouldn't vote until right before the next president is sworn in

Something could just as easily happen between early November and mid-January.

Early voting helps blunt the effect of any late surprises/dirty tricks. Not that I’m saying the Trump team would ever do such a thing, but….that’s exactly the kind of thing the Trump team would try.

[DemocraticPatriot]

14. The party of Democrats is called the "Democratic Party", NOT the "Democrat Party".

Republicans like to call it "the Democrat Party" as an insult, to imply that we are not in fact "democratic".

That's an error you want to avoid when posting on Democratic and or liberal websites, or anywhere else, really.

[Hekate]

15. Democratic Party. Not Democrat Party. Just an observation, but you seem to be terribly devoted to hypothetical disasters

I suggest yoga.

[former9thward]

19. In presidential elections you are not voting for the candidates.

In any state. You are voting for the electors from the party of the candidate you vote for. If either the President or VP dies before the electoral college meets the law gives the electors the power to vote for someone else.