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Deep State Witch

(12,717 posts)
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 08:21 PM Jun 2024

Not To Go All Tinfoil-Hat Here, But

I'm wondering if Joe drank or ate something that was not sealed prior to the debate. Did he have a cup of coffee or a glass of water handed to him from a CNN employee beforehand? Just wondering, since putting things into drinks is kind of a hallmark of the FSB.

Like I said - I don't want to go tinfoil hat, but....

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Not To Go All Tinfoil-Hat Here, But (Original Post) Deep State Witch Jun 2024 OP
He had to debate within 6 feet the most obnoxious man on the planet bucolic_frolic Jun 2024 #1
That's a believable excuse. Silent Type Jun 2024 #4
I think he said he had a cold. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #2
lol Jesus WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2024 #3
This is the umpteenth post LeftInTX Jun 2024 #5
And? live love laugh Jun 2024 #27
About him overdosing, being slipped something or having a bad reaction. LeftInTX Jun 2024 #32
There are a number of explanations for what we saw. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #6
You mean like the way Michael Jordan was poisoned by the Utah Jazz? PeaceWave Jun 2024 #7
We have no idea what happened. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #8
Baseless speculation by people who don't know anything isn't "trying to figure it out" brooklynite Jun 2024 #13
+1. 'trying to figure out' is not running every baseless scrap of drivel stopdiggin Jun 2024 #22
Nothing happened, that's just how Biden is off teleprompter Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #17
He had a cold is what I heard. Duncanpup Jun 2024 #9
I'm going with fart poisoning n/t Emrys Jun 2024 #10
No. Of course not. brooklynite Jun 2024 #11
I suspect someone in/at the Secret Service, CNN, or Georgia Tech in that order. rzemanfl Jun 2024 #12
After age 75, all bets are off as to seamless physical and mental responses. John1956PA Jun 2024 #14
Too late, your CT cap is firmly in place. Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #15
I just did. He was fine on Seth Myers. ANY older person especially with a stutter isn't going to speak perfect. BUT... Deek1935 Jun 2024 #29
Guess we notice different things Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #30
Yikes. I see videos where he's like that in press conferences, but didn't know about Seth Meyers. LeftInTX Jun 2024 #33
This shit is getting embarrassing. TheProle Jun 2024 #16
No kidding. demmiblue Jun 2024 #21
I think CNN scrambled everyone's brains through all devices!!!!! chowder66 Jun 2024 #18
So true!!! LeftInTX Jun 2024 #34
The Rand Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people Xavier Breath Jun 2024 #19
it is far more likely that he has a cold as his team claimed. musicblind Jun 2024 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2024 #23
That tinfoil is a little too tight. former9thward Jun 2024 #24
I also bet even OTC meds are via prescription (doctor's order) for the president. LeftInTX Jun 2024 #35
OMG Patton French Jun 2024 #25
Yeah, no. Ocelot II Jun 2024 #26
Your point makes sense -- especially seeing how he was 100% okay the following day. live love laugh Jun 2024 #28
Hardly likely, but don't let anyone give you a hard time... Silent3 Jun 2024 #31

LeftInTX

(34,302 posts)
32. About him overdosing, being slipped something or having a bad reaction.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 02:38 AM
Jun 2024

The president has a team of doctors. He likely can't event take OTC stuff without a doctor's supervision. There is always a flight surgeon on AF-1 too.

There a numerous conspiracy theories floating around that he was drugged by Trump. However, the SS is right there with him.

There are also other videos where he sounds like this.

&ab_channel=TheWhiteHouse


&ab_channel=CNBCTelevision


&t=31s&ab_channel=PBSNewsHour

&t=15s&ab_channel=CNBCTelevision

_____________


His debate prep team should have been aware and made accommodations. It was well known that his speech gets like this from time to time, especially when he's stressed and tired. Whenever he has long speech, his speech gets like this towards the end or when he's stressed etc.

Irish_Dem

(81,277 posts)
6. There are a number of explanations for what we saw.
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 08:27 PM
Jun 2024

And your idea must be on the list.

Biden was not functioning at his baseline mental status level.

He was in proximity to ruthless sociopaths who will do anything to win.

Within 24 hours he is back to baseline.

It is not tinfoil, it is just reality about one possible explanation.

PeaceWave

(3,384 posts)
7. You mean like the way Michael Jordan was poisoned by the Utah Jazz?
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 08:29 PM
Jun 2024

The urban legend is that the Utah Jazz poisoned Michael Jordan before Game 5 of the 1997 NBA Finals. The story goes that the Jazz intercepted a Pizza Hut delivery intended for Jordan and laced it with God knows what. Yeah. I doubt something similar happened to Biden.

Irish_Dem

(81,277 posts)
8. We have no idea what happened.
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 08:32 PM
Jun 2024

Something obviously happened and we are trying to figure it out.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
13. Baseless speculation by people who don't know anything isn't "trying to figure it out"
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 08:44 PM
Jun 2024

stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
22. +1. 'trying to figure out' is not running every baseless scrap of drivel
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 09:50 PM
Jun 2024

up the flagpole. The term for that is not investigation - it's 'embarrassing yourself'.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,240 posts)
17. Nothing happened, that's just how Biden is off teleprompter
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 08:48 PM
Jun 2024

Go watch him on Seth Meyers a few months back.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
11. No. Of course not.
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 08:39 PM
Jun 2024
con·spir·a·cy the·o·ry (noun)
a belief that some secret but influential organization is responsible for an event or phenomenon.

rzemanfl

(31,380 posts)
12. I suspect someone in/at the Secret Service, CNN, or Georgia Tech in that order.
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 08:42 PM
Jun 2024

My tinfoil hat is nice and shiny too. K&R.

John1956PA

(4,965 posts)
14. After age 75, all bets are off as to seamless physical and mental responses.
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 08:46 PM
Jun 2024

Glitches will happen, especially if a contributing factor (such as a head cold) is in play. Whatever mental stumble the president may have experienced, it did not last long. The incoherent ramblings of 45 on multiple occasions over the past nine years indicate a far worse condition.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,240 posts)
15. Too late, your CT cap is firmly in place.
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 08:46 PM
Jun 2024

Go watch Biden on Seth Myers a few months back.

No pressure, no time limit, softball questions.

Biden had trouble expressing a complete thought or finishing a thought without cutting himself off and switching topics or just stopping. I think Seth might have even finished a sentence for him once.

This problem didn’t just come out of the blue, it was a known issue.

 

Deek1935

(1,055 posts)
29. I just did. He was fine on Seth Myers. ANY older person especially with a stutter isn't going to speak perfect. BUT...
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:20 AM
Jun 2024

he is NOT "senile" at all. His answers were generally clear on Seth Myers and detailed. Full of information.

He has a stutter.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,240 posts)
30. Guess we notice different things
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:41 AM
Jun 2024

One can have difficulty with verbal expression, as Biden does, and not be senile.

LeftInTX

(34,302 posts)
33. Yikes. I see videos where he's like that in press conferences, but didn't know about Seth Meyers.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 02:41 AM
Jun 2024

That's concerning. I blamed much of it on stress and fatigue etc. I know he stutters.

Xavier Breath

(6,640 posts)
19. The Rand Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 08:59 PM
Jun 2024

Under the supervision of the reverse vampires...

musicblind

(4,563 posts)
20. it is far more likely that he has a cold as his team claimed.
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 08:59 PM
Jun 2024

i've had bad colds where a single dose dayquil has made me feel out if it. that isn't common, but it has happened.

regardless of the reason why, we need to be smart going forward. saving our democracy is too important to do anything recklessly.

Response to Deep State Witch (Original post)

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
24. That tinfoil is a little too tight.
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 10:02 PM
Jun 2024

Presidents don't randomly eat or drink things outside of the White House. Everything is cleared by the Secret Service.

LeftInTX

(34,302 posts)
35. I also bet even OTC meds are via prescription (doctor's order) for the president.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 02:49 AM
Jun 2024

To avoid, POTUS doing something stupid like taking Benadryl before a meeting with Netanyahu or Modi or whoever....

"Yesssssssssss, you can have alllllll of our nuclearrrrr missilesssssssss Bibiiiiiiiiiiiiiii"

Or takes laxatives before the SOTU etc......



live love laugh

(16,383 posts)
28. Your point makes sense -- especially seeing how he was 100% okay the following day.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:19 AM
Jun 2024

Don’t let the detractors convince you that you’re totally off base.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
31. Hardly likely, but don't let anyone give you a hard time...
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 01:20 AM
Jun 2024

…for just letting that thought run through your mind and entertaining it for a moment. It’s really only tinfoil hat territory if you get married to ideas like that as soon as you think of them, or hear them from someone else.

I can’t stand CT nuts, but, hell, I *thought* about stuff like that too.

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