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bigtree

(94,249 posts)
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:18 AM Jun 2024

DNC Chair: 'Y'all keep handwringing, while I sit over here in the corner counting- $33 million in grassroots donations'

Jaime Harrison @harrisonjaime 19m
Y’all keep handwringing, while I sit over here in the corner counting- $33 million in grassroots donations for President @JoeBiden since the debate!!!

Our folks on the ground know what is at stake!

#StillRidinWithBiden24








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DNC Chair: 'Y'all keep handwringing, while I sit over here in the corner counting- $33 million in grassroots donations' (Original Post) bigtree Jun 2024 OP
Go Joe!!! 🌊 !!! Think. Again. Jun 2024 #1
The narratives right now pose grassroots donations against "Democratic donors" Prairie Gates Jun 2024 #2
Yes. Of course big money and big power are talking behind closed doors. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #4
well then sue me, too bigtree Jun 2024 #8
The Democratic Party's donors are not fretting are still donating.................... Lovie777 Jun 2024 #6
Jaime Harrison is "talking" directly to the big money donors agingdem Jun 2024 #15
Exactly. He's telling the big donors that it's safe to go in the water. MaryMagdaline Jun 2024 #44
Proof Democratic donors are fretting? MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #22
As Dems always are. Democrats are not a GooseStep party! Traurigkeit Jun 2024 #43
"Are" what? MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #48
I could be wrong orange jar Jun 2024 #49
You could be right. MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #51
Just look to the Republican Party for the definition, or what poses as a republican party now Traurigkeit Jun 2024 #54
He's clearly addressing the professional pundit class and NYT editorial board. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #57
This is not a good strategy. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #3
I don't see anything insulting Wednesdays Jun 2024 #7
People who are afraid/worried are being called "naysayers" and "hand-wringers." Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #9
what's their fall back? What's their solution? bigtree Jun 2024 #14
Half of everything is psychology. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #18
most isn't constructive, and you should know that bigtree Jun 2024 #21
This just will not work. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #25
are you scared? bigtree Jun 2024 #29
A strategy of insults and intimidation will not work to solve problems. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #30
the whinging is a direct affront to the supporters working to elect Joe Biden bigtree Jun 2024 #31
No kidding! MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #52
OMG MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #23
The tweet language should have been different. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #26
Disagree. MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #50
You're not actually reading what the treat says. He's talking about NYT and pundit "handwringing" See my other posts emulatorloo Jun 2024 #60
Your rebuke is noted Generic Brad Jun 2024 #33
Seriously if those people can't see the stakes in all of this. I don't know what to say. onecaliberal Jun 2024 #32
Nope, clearly addressing NYT editorial board and beltway pundits. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #59
I'm noticing many uses of the word "whinging" too. calimary Jun 2024 #45
British. : to complain fretfully nt Phoenix61 Jun 2024 #53
Aha! Thanks! calimary Jun 2024 #64
I'm With You Wednesday DAngelo136 Jun 2024 #56
if you want whinge about the campaign because of one debate you should expect pushback bigtree Jun 2024 #10
Insulting people is not a good political strategy. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #12
anyone insulting the president by suggesting he's unfit need to be told bigtree Jun 2024 #17
This is not leadership. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #19
whingers are opposition to the incumbent president and presumptive nominee bigtree Jun 2024 #20
Yes. MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #24
Respectfully disagree. Raven123 Jun 2024 #13
Insulting and demeaning members of your own group is not leadership. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #16
They insulted with the replacement talk. They are helping Trump. n/t onecaliberal Jun 2024 #34
Two wrongs don't make a right and is not leadership in a crisis. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #35
THEY are helping Trump. onecaliberal Jun 2024 #37
What name calling? MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jun 2024 #55
He's talking about the NYT's editorial board and beltway pundit class. Please read it again, it is right there: emulatorloo Jun 2024 #58
He's not insulting anyone. Why are you reading it that way? paleotn Jun 2024 #46
Let's Give Them Something To Talk About Wednesdays Jun 2024 #5
i donated Friday am samnsara Jun 2024 #11
Perception is reality. Look at the republicans, madibella Jun 2024 #27
It keeps going up. That is a vote of support from the base JohnSJ Jun 2024 #28
I'm a monthly donor but I gave a little bit more. Susan Calvin Jun 2024 #36
I donated to Biden/Harris last night - wasn't a big donation but I wanted them to know TBF Jun 2024 #38
Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #39
Biden needs to get convicted of some felonies. progressoid Jun 2024 #40
I wrote a check Friday to his campaign ! kimbutgar Jun 2024 #41
Donated again this morning BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #42
I'm in DoBW Jun 2024 #61
Count me as a grass root Bayard Jun 2024 #62
Not a cent BigMin28 Jun 2024 #63
THIS and Nimble_Idea Jun 2024 #65
Hells yeah! duckworth969 Jun 2024 #66

Prairie Gates

(8,126 posts)
2. The narratives right now pose grassroots donations against "Democratic donors"
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:20 AM
Jun 2024

with the latter being, er, not grassroots.

The grassroots donors are donating. The Democratic donors are fretting and holding conference calls.

Irish_Dem

(81,211 posts)
4. Yes. Of course big money and big power are talking behind closed doors.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:23 AM
Jun 2024

This is just how the world works.

Pretending otherwise is not facing reality.

bigtree

(94,249 posts)
8. well then sue me, too
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:33 AM
Jun 2024

...because I've had it with the lily-livered whinging over the prospects against a convicted felon.

Most of the whinging doesn't even attempt to characterize the opposition candidate, and it's just navel-gazing backbiting.

Lovie777

(22,949 posts)
6. The Democratic Party's donors are not fretting are still donating....................
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:31 AM
Jun 2024

grassroots and the donors are on the same page, they are keeping their eyes on the prize for the sake of the country.

Truth be told, GQP donors are worried and as to the GQP grassroots, money-wise are not that energetic.

agingdem

(8,839 posts)
15. Jaime Harrison is "talking" directly to the big money donors
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:44 AM
Jun 2024

we the people are behind Joe..a not so great hour for Joe did nothing to move the needle in Trump's direction..in fact, sweaty Trump's never-ending torrent of lies and insults reminded voters why they hate Trump and voted for Joe in 2020..and why Trump and his vile anointed candidates lose big every election cycle...Joe may walk and talk slower but he knows how to do the job...he's running to improve lives...Trump is running to stay out of prison...the big money guys are not going to stop "giving" because the NYT is pissed bc Joe won't do a sit-down with the Maggie Haberman's rag...

MaryMagdaline

(7,964 posts)
44. Exactly. He's telling the big donors that it's safe to go in the water.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 11:38 AM
Jun 2024

Great and timely message from our DNC chair.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,501 posts)
22. Proof Democratic donors are fretting?
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 10:09 AM
Jun 2024


And, really?

"The narratives right now pose grassroots donations against "Democratic donors"..."

We're all on the same side, yes?

Whose narratives are pitting Dems against each other?

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,501 posts)
48. "Are" what?
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:29 PM
Jun 2024

Asking for proof of random claims is not "goosestepping," and I don't know WTF you're talking about.

 

Traurigkeit

(1,290 posts)
54. Just look to the Republican Party for the definition, or what poses as a republican party now
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:40 PM
Jun 2024

Last edited Sun Jun 30, 2024, 01:34 PM - Edit history (1)

example of GooseStep for younger crowd

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
57. He's clearly addressing the professional pundit class and NYT editorial board.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:42 PM
Jun 2024

“Folks join me … let’s show the pundits, the NYT, and all of the other naysayers that we all are #StillRidinWithBiden24”

Irish_Dem

(81,211 posts)
3. This is not a good strategy.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:21 AM
Jun 2024

It is better to unite.

Insulting and dividing people is counter productive right now.

Irish_Dem

(81,211 posts)
9. People who are afraid/worried are being called "naysayers" and "hand-wringers."
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:37 AM
Jun 2024

This is insulting and demeaning.

And only creates more problems.
Doesn't solve anything.

Leadership is about uniting, not dividing.



bigtree

(94,249 posts)
14. what's their fall back? What's their solution?
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:43 AM
Jun 2024

...whinge about the debate for weeks on end?

It's as if these people don't have a clue about winning elections, but think their complaining and suggestions Biden surrender his campaign and voluntarily become a lame duck president is some kind of political genius.

They want rebuking, imo.

Irish_Dem

(81,211 posts)
18. Half of everything is psychology.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:50 AM
Jun 2024

Rebuking, insulting will not work.

This is not leadership.

Leadership is about identifying problems, coming up with solutions,
and bringing everyone on board.

There is a lot at stake right now, we stand to lose our democracy.
Many lives could be lost.

It is not the time for immaturity and self indulgent language,
which gets us nowhere.

bigtree

(94,249 posts)
21. most isn't constructive, and you should know that
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 10:01 AM
Jun 2024

...most of the criticism is designed to undermine Joe Biden's candidacy.

Pretending it's just constructive criticism ignores that these very same grousers claim to be concerned about beating Trump, but are either just tearing Pres, Biden down, or just suggesting an absurd retreat which would not only doom our chances of beating Trump, but doom the rest of his presidency, as well.

There is no more destructive thing Democrats can do no than put the president down because of a Debate where Trump lied incessantly. Most whingers have made their complaints a referendum on the candidacy, not some constructive endeavor.

They are OPPOSITION to the Biden candidacy.

Irish_Dem

(81,211 posts)
25. This just will not work.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 10:26 AM
Jun 2024

Beating up scared people never works.
And it undermines the morale of everyone else.

bigtree

(94,249 posts)
29. are you scared?
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 10:34 AM
Jun 2024

...what utter bullshhit.

Stop the gaslighting. It's making me sick to my stomach. How's that for an effect on stalwart supporters?

Do the whingers give a fuck about the people standing by Joe Biden? Why subject us to this bullshit?

Why are people working to suppress support for our presumptive noiminee?

Why are they putting the support of so many Democrats at risk and threatening this campaign with their negativism?

What actual result do they expect from all of the whinging? It's not going over well with this lifelong Democrat.

bigtree

(94,249 posts)
31. the whinging is a direct affront to the supporters working to elect Joe Biden
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 10:38 AM
Jun 2024

Last edited Sun Jun 30, 2024, 11:11 AM - Edit history (1)

...you do what you want, but you can't claim whinging about the nominee is supporting him, or the party's chances in November.

It's just opposition. That's it. Not support. The opposite of support.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,501 posts)
52. No kidding!
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:39 PM
Jun 2024

"Concern" for scared people apparently is to beat them over the head repeatedly with negativity and imagining divisiveness instead of recognizing GOOD NEWS for Democrats. JFC.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
60. You're not actually reading what the treat says. He's talking about NYT and pundit "handwringing" See my other posts
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:56 PM
Jun 2024
Folks join me … let’s show the pundits, the NYT, and all of the other naysayers that we all are #StillRidinWithBiden24


 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
32. Seriously if those people can't see the stakes in all of this. I don't know what to say.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 10:53 AM
Jun 2024

One of the two will be president. They either go with a rapist, or a lifelong public servant who is presiding over historic numbers in our economy. While the other piece of shit added 4 trillion to the debt in 1 term. People really need to grow up. I’m sorry.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
59. Nope, clearly addressing NYT editorial board and beltway pundits.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:52 PM
Jun 2024

Sorry to keep repeating this, but that’s who he is writing about. It is right there in his tweet.

Folks join me … let’s show the pundits, the NYT, and all of the other naysayers that we all are #StillRidinWithBiden24




calimary

(89,977 posts)
45. I'm noticing many uses of the word "whinging" too.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:04 PM
Jun 2024

I think I know what that is, but I find myself wondering if somebody originally wanted to say “whining” but threw in a second “g” for some reason.

calimary

(89,977 posts)
64. Aha! Thanks!
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 02:52 PM
Jun 2024

Is it pronounced “WHIN-jing” ? Emphasis on the first syllable, I’m assuming?

DAngelo136

(343 posts)
56. I'm With You Wednesday
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:41 PM
Jun 2024

I'm not a Democrat anymore, I'm a Socialist. But despite my ideological differences with the party, I'm of the school of "All good people come to the aid of the country." And right now, Trump and the Republicans are a clear and present danger to this country and all that it stands for and what it can be.

I'm not very concerned with "bedwetters", "hand wringers" and "whiners" or their feelings. I am concerned with voters, workers and donors. My only mission (and every other Democrat) is to make sure President Joe Biden is reelected and that the Congress turn deep dark blue. Anything detracting from that is counter to the mission.

Did Joe have a bad night? Sure did. But [expletive deleted] happens. Just because Bryce Harper goes 0-4 one game doesn't mean I bench him, especially if he's having a good season now and had good seasons before. And I damn sure won't trade him. Perspective, people.

I want y'all to think about this: The Republicans are betting the ranch that they can nominate the worst person; a twice impeached, felony convicted, adjudicated rapist, fraudster; the most incompetent President since George W. Bush (who screwed up big time the first time around) and have an agenda just south of "Mein Kampf" and get him elected...again. As opposed to an actual good man. Remember Jimmy Carter? An ACTUAL CHRISTIAN? We're still picking up the pieces from the Reagan era. Take a look at all of the Republican presidents since Eisenhower, it reads like a who's who from "Incompetents R US. So you know, character and competence doesn't matter to them.

It's time to get on board, or get left behind. I personally want to know who are the ones who are calling for Biden to "step down" because they need an attitude adjustment. This isn't even my party anymore, but I'm "Ridin' With Biden". Two reasons: 1. I believe in Joe; I believe in US 2. I want to see that SOB Trump and his ilk in an orange jumpsuit and behind bars. If it's good enough for me, it's good enough for you. As the late Adam Clayton Powell said: "Keep the faith, baby"

For those of you who need more inspiration, I'll offer this:

?si=wkcte-F-FvUQZmTo

bigtree

(94,249 posts)
10. if you want whinge about the campaign because of one debate you should expect pushback
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:38 AM
Jun 2024

...it doesn't matter if you're a big donor or a grassroots supporter.

The media and others are trying to turn the reality of a convicted felon for an opponent on its head, and completely ignoring that Joe Biden is serving competently and with distinction as president RIGHT NOW.

Fuck the notion that someone needs to mollycoddle whinging Democrats. Whingers need to get a spine and start attacking the actual opposition instead of our own party's candidate.

Irish_Dem

(81,211 posts)
12. Insulting people is not a good political strategy.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:42 AM
Jun 2024

It will not work.
It will backfire.

It is very bad leadership.

bigtree

(94,249 posts)
17. anyone insulting the president by suggesting he's unfit need to be told
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:45 AM
Jun 2024

...your mileage and impression of the president may vary.

It's interesting how many people have come on defending the pov that complainers and handwringers should be listened to and given the floor to go on and on about their fears and projections.

You should realize all that defending just looks like a sop to the complainers and essentially agreement with them. What makes that group so special that they need the attention of the people supporting Pres. Biden right now without reservation?

If you're not supporting our presumptive nominee, you're angling to enable his opposition. Whispering campaigns about his age, and other subversions of the Biden camp are just opposition. There's no pretty way to dress that up and make it acceptable.

bigtree

(94,249 posts)
20. whingers are opposition to the incumbent president and presumptive nominee
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:54 AM
Jun 2024

...there's nothing more misguided than that.

Most of what's swirling around isn't support, it's an attempt to undermine his campaign with fears and projections, for whatever reason.

Raven123

(7,793 posts)
13. Respectfully disagree.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:42 AM
Jun 2024

I don’t see the dividing. Those who IMMEDIATELY created a replace the candidate camp were divisive. It was a reflexive response that lacked thoughtfulness and practicality, and fed the GOP appetite.

Irish_Dem

(81,211 posts)
16. Insulting and demeaning members of your own group is not leadership.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:44 AM
Jun 2024

Calling them names and putting them down is divisive.

A good leader brings people onboard in a smarter way.

Irish_Dem

(81,211 posts)
35. Two wrongs don't make a right and is not leadership in a crisis.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 10:57 AM
Jun 2024

The goal is not to match bad energy.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
37. THEY are helping Trump.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 11:00 AM
Jun 2024

They are helping Trump
They are helping Trump
They are helping Trump.
I don’t care how it is spun. This is the result. I will NEVER forgive these people. They already fucked us out of Hillary Clinton. I’m just done with the breathtaking stupidity:

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,501 posts)
47. What name calling?
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:25 PM
Jun 2024

"Y’all keep handwringing..."

Is this the egregious divisive error? The insult? The name calling?

SMDH

Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #16)

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
58. He's talking about the NYT's editorial board and beltway pundit class. Please read it again, it is right there:
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:47 PM
Jun 2024
Folks join me … let’s show the pundits, the NYT, and all of the other naysayers that we all are #StillRidinWithBiden24


You and I are “folks”

paleotn

(22,206 posts)
46. He's not insulting anyone. Why are you reading it that way?
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:07 PM
Jun 2024

Then again, sometimes, to talk people down from hysterics so that we can unite requires a sharp kick in the ass. That may be his point. We need to stop acting like Hudson in Aliens.

madibella

(208 posts)
27. Perception is reality. Look at the republicans,
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 10:31 AM
Jun 2024

They tell “you” what to think, never waver and the news reports it all as fact, never questioning obvious lies.
Now is the time to suck it up and get behind Joe Biden. Period end of story. Perception is reality. Create the perception and it will become reality. He needs support now. If Democrats would circle the wagons then you’d be hearing none of this right now. But of course, what’s the saying perfect is the enemy of good. Democrats want perfection. Now is not the time.

Susan Calvin

(2,437 posts)
36. I'm a monthly donor but I gave a little bit more.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 10:59 AM
Jun 2024

I don't think the handwringing is directed at Democrats. I think it's directed at the pundits. Look at the second tweet.

TBF

(36,643 posts)
38. I donated to Biden/Harris last night - wasn't a big donation but I wanted them to know
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 11:04 AM
Jun 2024

the voters are still here & we don't want Trump. Joe has beaten him before & if he wants to do it again I'm with him.

Response to bigtree (Original post)

progressoid

(53,172 posts)
40. Biden needs to get convicted of some felonies.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 11:14 AM
Jun 2024

Cuz that shit has money pouring into the Trump coffers.

BigMin28

(1,858 posts)
63. Not a cent
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 01:10 PM
Jun 2024

Of those donations is going to any attorneys fees for President Biden. Unlike the psychopath, he isn't facing a multitude of charges. The RNC is spending money hand over fist on trump's legal fees.

 

Nimble_Idea

(2,849 posts)
65. THIS and
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 03:12 PM
Jun 2024

like I'm not worried at all. I'm sticking with the plan to get out the vote!

Joe can be in a coma, and I'm still going to vote for Joe and beat maga.


Not sure what is so fucking hard to understand but media gonna media
they think they are relevant like their polls.

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