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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDNC Chair: 'Y'all keep handwringing, while I sit over here in the corner counting- $33 million in grassroots donations'
Jaime Harrison @harrisonjaime 19mYall keep handwringing, while I sit over here in the corner counting- $33 million in grassroots donations for President @JoeBiden since the debate!!!
Our folks on the ground know what is at stake!
#StillRidinWithBiden24
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
donate: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/bfp-chair-harrison
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)Prairie Gates
(8,126 posts)with the latter being, er, not grassroots.
The grassroots donors are donating. The Democratic donors are fretting and holding conference calls.
Irish_Dem
(81,211 posts)This is just how the world works.
Pretending otherwise is not facing reality.
bigtree
(94,249 posts)...because I've had it with the lily-livered whinging over the prospects against a convicted felon.
Most of the whinging doesn't even attempt to characterize the opposition candidate, and it's just navel-gazing backbiting.
Lovie777
(22,949 posts)grassroots and the donors are on the same page, they are keeping their eyes on the prize for the sake of the country.
Truth be told, GQP donors are worried and as to the GQP grassroots, money-wise are not that energetic.
agingdem
(8,839 posts)we the people are behind Joe..a not so great hour for Joe did nothing to move the needle in Trump's direction..in fact, sweaty Trump's never-ending torrent of lies and insults reminded voters why they hate Trump and voted for Joe in 2020..and why Trump and his vile anointed candidates lose big every election cycle...Joe may walk and talk slower but he knows how to do the job...he's running to improve lives...Trump is running to stay out of prison...the big money guys are not going to stop "giving" because the NYT is pissed bc Joe won't do a sit-down with the Maggie Haberman's rag...
MaryMagdaline
(7,964 posts)Great and timely message from our DNC chair.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,501 posts)And, really?
"The narratives right now pose grassroots donations against "Democratic donors"..."
We're all on the same side, yes?
Whose narratives are pitting Dems against each other?
Traurigkeit
(1,290 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,501 posts)Asking for proof of random claims is not "goosestepping," and I don't know WTF you're talking about.
orange jar
(878 posts)but it sounds like they're agreeing with you. Who knows, though.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,501 posts)I was thrown by the "goosestepping" part. Unclear to me.
Traurigkeit
(1,290 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 30, 2024, 01:34 PM - Edit history (1)
example of GooseStep for younger crowd
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)Folks join me lets show the pundits, the NYT, and all of the other naysayers that we all are #StillRidinWithBiden24
Irish_Dem
(81,211 posts)It is better to unite.
Insulting and dividing people is counter productive right now.
Wednesdays
(22,580 posts)Unless saying "handwringing" is insulting.
Irish_Dem
(81,211 posts)This is insulting and demeaning.
And only creates more problems.
Doesn't solve anything.
Leadership is about uniting, not dividing.
bigtree
(94,249 posts)...whinge about the debate for weeks on end?
It's as if these people don't have a clue about winning elections, but think their complaining and suggestions Biden surrender his campaign and voluntarily become a lame duck president is some kind of political genius.
They want rebuking, imo.
Irish_Dem
(81,211 posts)Rebuking, insulting will not work.
This is not leadership.
Leadership is about identifying problems, coming up with solutions,
and bringing everyone on board.
There is a lot at stake right now, we stand to lose our democracy.
Many lives could be lost.
It is not the time for immaturity and self indulgent language,
which gets us nowhere.
bigtree
(94,249 posts)...most of the criticism is designed to undermine Joe Biden's candidacy.
Pretending it's just constructive criticism ignores that these very same grousers claim to be concerned about beating Trump, but are either just tearing Pres, Biden down, or just suggesting an absurd retreat which would not only doom our chances of beating Trump, but doom the rest of his presidency, as well.
There is no more destructive thing Democrats can do no than put the president down because of a Debate where Trump lied incessantly. Most whingers have made their complaints a referendum on the candidacy, not some constructive endeavor.
They are OPPOSITION to the Biden candidacy.
Irish_Dem
(81,211 posts)Beating up scared people never works.
And it undermines the morale of everyone else.
bigtree
(94,249 posts)...what utter bullshhit.
Stop the gaslighting. It's making me sick to my stomach. How's that for an effect on stalwart supporters?
Do the whingers give a fuck about the people standing by Joe Biden? Why subject us to this bullshit?
Why are people working to suppress support for our presumptive noiminee?
Why are they putting the support of so many Democrats at risk and threatening this campaign with their negativism?
What actual result do they expect from all of the whinging? It's not going over well with this lifelong Democrat.
Irish_Dem
(81,211 posts)bigtree
(94,249 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 30, 2024, 11:11 AM - Edit history (1)
...you do what you want, but you can't claim whinging about the nominee is supporting him, or the party's chances in November.
It's just opposition. That's it. Not support. The opposite of support.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,501 posts)"Concern" for scared people apparently is to beat them over the head repeatedly with negativity and imagining divisiveness instead of recognizing GOOD NEWS for Democrats. JFC.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,501 posts)It's a tweet reporting GOOD NEWS for Dems.
Irish_Dem
(81,211 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,501 posts)To what part do you object, so strenuously?
It's GOOD NEWS for Dems.
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)Generic Brad
(14,374 posts)And it is not working.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)One of the two will be president. They either go with a rapist, or a lifelong public servant who is presiding over historic numbers in our economy. While the other piece of shit added 4 trillion to the debt in 1 term. People really need to grow up. Im sorry.
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)Sorry to keep repeating this, but thats who he is writing about. It is right there in his tweet.
calimary
(89,977 posts)I think I know what that is, but I find myself wondering if somebody originally wanted to say whining but threw in a second g for some reason.
Phoenix61
(18,827 posts)calimary
(89,977 posts)Is it pronounced WHIN-jing ? Emphasis on the first syllable, Im assuming?
DAngelo136
(343 posts)I'm not a Democrat anymore, I'm a Socialist. But despite my ideological differences with the party, I'm of the school of "All good people come to the aid of the country." And right now, Trump and the Republicans are a clear and present danger to this country and all that it stands for and what it can be.
I'm not very concerned with "bedwetters", "hand wringers" and "whiners" or their feelings. I am concerned with voters, workers and donors. My only mission (and every other Democrat) is to make sure President Joe Biden is reelected and that the Congress turn deep dark blue. Anything detracting from that is counter to the mission.
Did Joe have a bad night? Sure did. But [expletive deleted] happens. Just because Bryce Harper goes 0-4 one game doesn't mean I bench him, especially if he's having a good season now and had good seasons before. And I damn sure won't trade him. Perspective, people.
I want y'all to think about this: The Republicans are betting the ranch that they can nominate the worst person; a twice impeached, felony convicted, adjudicated rapist, fraudster; the most incompetent President since George W. Bush (who screwed up big time the first time around) and have an agenda just south of "Mein Kampf" and get him elected...again. As opposed to an actual good man. Remember Jimmy Carter? An ACTUAL CHRISTIAN? We're still picking up the pieces from the Reagan era. Take a look at all of the Republican presidents since Eisenhower, it reads like a who's who from "Incompetents R US. So you know, character and competence doesn't matter to them.
It's time to get on board, or get left behind. I personally want to know who are the ones who are calling for Biden to "step down" because they need an attitude adjustment. This isn't even my party anymore, but I'm "Ridin' With Biden". Two reasons: 1. I believe in Joe; I believe in US 2. I want to see that SOB Trump and his ilk in an orange jumpsuit and behind bars. If it's good enough for me, it's good enough for you. As the late Adam Clayton Powell said: "Keep the faith, baby"
For those of you who need more inspiration, I'll offer this:
bigtree
(94,249 posts)...it doesn't matter if you're a big donor or a grassroots supporter.
The media and others are trying to turn the reality of a convicted felon for an opponent on its head, and completely ignoring that Joe Biden is serving competently and with distinction as president RIGHT NOW.
Fuck the notion that someone needs to mollycoddle whinging Democrats. Whingers need to get a spine and start attacking the actual opposition instead of our own party's candidate.
Irish_Dem
(81,211 posts)It will not work.
It will backfire.
It is very bad leadership.
bigtree
(94,249 posts)...your mileage and impression of the president may vary.
It's interesting how many people have come on defending the pov that complainers and handwringers should be listened to and given the floor to go on and on about their fears and projections.
You should realize all that defending just looks like a sop to the complainers and essentially agreement with them. What makes that group so special that they need the attention of the people supporting Pres. Biden right now without reservation?
If you're not supporting our presumptive nominee, you're angling to enable his opposition. Whispering campaigns about his age, and other subversions of the Biden camp are just opposition. There's no pretty way to dress that up and make it acceptable.
Irish_Dem
(81,211 posts)This is misguided.
bigtree
(94,249 posts)...there's nothing more misguided than that.
Most of what's swirling around isn't support, it's an attempt to undermine his campaign with fears and projections, for whatever reason.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,501 posts)Raven123
(7,793 posts)I dont see the dividing. Those who IMMEDIATELY created a replace the candidate camp were divisive. It was a reflexive response that lacked thoughtfulness and practicality, and fed the GOP appetite.
Irish_Dem
(81,211 posts)Calling them names and putting them down is divisive.
A good leader brings people onboard in a smarter way.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,211 posts)The goal is not to match bad energy.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)They are helping Trump
They are helping Trump
They are helping Trump.
I dont care how it is spun. This is the result. I will NEVER forgive these people. They already fucked us out of Hillary Clinton. Im just done with the breathtaking stupidity:
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,501 posts)"Yall keep handwringing..."
Is this the egregious divisive error? The insult? The name calling?
SMDH
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emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)You and I are folks
paleotn
(22,206 posts)Then again, sometimes, to talk people down from hysterics so that we can unite requires a sharp kick in the ass. That may be his point. We need to stop acting like Hudson in Aliens.
Wednesdays
(22,580 posts)samnsara
(18,767 posts)....and for Wash state Gov state well...
madibella
(208 posts)They tell you what to think, never waver and the news reports it all as fact, never questioning obvious lies.
Now is the time to suck it up and get behind Joe Biden. Period end of story. Perception is reality. Create the perception and it will become reality. He needs support now. If Democrats would circle the wagons then youd be hearing none of this right now. But of course, whats the saying perfect is the enemy of good. Democrats want perfection. Now is not the time.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)Susan Calvin
(2,437 posts)I don't think the handwringing is directed at Democrats. I think it's directed at the pundits. Look at the second tweet.
TBF
(36,643 posts)the voters are still here & we don't want Trump. Joe has beaten him before & if he wants to do it again I'm with him.
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progressoid
(53,172 posts)Cuz that shit has money pouring into the Trump coffers.
kimbutgar
(27,246 posts)BumRushDaShow
(169,618 posts)It's the end of the month/quarter so always that big push!
Bayard
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BigMin28
(1,858 posts)Of those donations is going to any attorneys fees for President Biden. Unlike the psychopath, he isn't facing a multitude of charges. The RNC is spending money hand over fist on trump's legal fees.
Nimble_Idea
(2,849 posts)like I'm not worried at all. I'm sticking with the plan to get out the vote!
Joe can be in a coma, and I'm still going to vote for Joe and beat maga.
Not sure what is so fucking hard to understand but media gonna media
they think they are relevant like their polls.