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ForgedCrank

(3,120 posts)
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:20 PM Jun 2024

I have to admit it, the propaganda is getting in my head.

I'm only posting this to get it off of my chest, so please don't read it as a doom post, it's not. I'm just having a tough time right now.
Since the debate, everywhere I look, I see doom and gloom, and predictions of Jo Biden dropping out or being replaced. It is especially the carefully selected photos of him that depict him as frail and confused that get to me the most.
And while I do my best to dismiss all of this knowing full well that it's all garbage coming from opposition, it is beginning to weight on me. I'm also quite aggravated at myself for allowing it to get into my head like it has. I'm seeing suggestions that Joe Biden be replaced. I saw one claiming Jill Biden's ex-husband is making rounds and attacking her, I see stuff like Biden Depressed, and Biden meeting with family to discuss future. I see that garbage and for a moment I internally say to myself oh my God, is this true? I'm not going to post links because rules, and because I already realize most of it complete BS, and the content isn't even my point. I's just how it's bumming me out and eroding my hope. And even then, I don't know if it's my own own declining hope that is making me feel down, or it it's just a matter of watching the world attack a good man and beat him down like this. Joe Biden doesn't deserve this nonsense, it's cruel, and we know that he may not be personally reading this garbage, he is most certainly being updated and informed of it. Like I said, it's cruel.
I don't know how you are all dealing with it internally, but I feel like I'm taking an emotional beating over this whole thing. I've been 100% invested in Joe Biden and will remain so, my vote is not going to change. But the propaganda is starting to wear me down, little by little, and it's a real downer sometimes. I'll spring back like I always do, I am just having these moments from time to time, and right now is one of those moments.
Thanks for letting me post here. I'm not much of an OP type, and I am normally only posting when I disagree with something, but I had to get this out of my system. I think I may have to lose the news for the next few days and try to just hang out here and try to shake this off, but there is also a lot of doom posts here as well, so it's difficult to escape.

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I have to admit it, the propaganda is getting in my head. (Original Post) ForgedCrank Jun 2024 OP
fight back bigtree Jun 2024 #1
I do, but ForgedCrank Jun 2024 #2
Please just chill out. Go have a drink. Watch a movie. Listen to music. Go for a walk. Read a book. It's all nonsense. Deek1935 Jun 2024 #5
Here, watch some calm rational analysis emulatorloo Jun 2024 #11
I get it bigtree Jun 2024 #14
I don't ForgedCrank Jun 2024 #19
Forget about the debate and pundits and the nonsense. Just keep calling Trump a pathological liar. Deek1935 Jun 2024 #3
I have only one thing to say to that... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #4
Please try and re-focus.... FarPoint Jun 2024 #6
That's exactly what they want. The media want the drama, Ocelot II Jun 2024 #7
Just stop already. LuvLoogie Jun 2024 #8
Maybe try volunteering for your local Democratic party--it puts you among good people who're working to stop tRump and Timeflyer Jun 2024 #9
Mad Dog Mean...Outlaw Josey Wales video clip IA8IT Jun 2024 #10
Good clip choice, for this moment! Thanks! NT DemocraticPatriot Jun 2024 #21
You are experiencing an Information Operation, and it is affecting you the way intended jmbar2 Jun 2024 #12
Yep, it's a scripted... Hugin Jun 2024 #15
What makes ForgedCrank Jun 2024 #16
It's difficult to ignore by design... Hugin Jun 2024 #18
No need to feel bad about it jmbar2 Jun 2024 #20
FUD is some powerful wampum. n/t Hugin Jun 2024 #22
I'll gladly share my "trash" list. Got a few spare megabytes? usonian Jun 2024 #13
I stopped watching most of the "news" media long time ago JI7 Jun 2024 #17
Try not to let it bother you, tho I know it's tough... Joe's a fighter, he's got this!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2024 #23

ForgedCrank

(3,120 posts)
2. I do, but
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:23 PM
Jun 2024

I have these moments where it really does bother me a lot. It's hard to hang on sometimes when being flooded with the constant stream of it.

 

Deek1935

(1,055 posts)
5. Please just chill out. Go have a drink. Watch a movie. Listen to music. Go for a walk. Read a book. It's all nonsense.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:26 PM
Jun 2024

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
11. Here, watch some calm rational analysis
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:32 PM
Jun 2024
?si=DHr0pMBeJWLL_vmD

And then maybe take some time off.

Pretty sure people are gonna sober up from this hyperbolic “Biden is Doomed” nonsense in a few days and this hysteria will pass.

bigtree

(94,672 posts)
14. I get it
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:52 PM
Jun 2024

...I've reminded more than one of those posters that bringing that shit here is just trolling people who are actually engaged in the fight, not retreating from it.

As another poster reminded, what you're feeling is by design. It's a sophisticated political class of campaigners these days, and discouraging and dividing Democrats is an old and ready tactic.

This was alway going to be a hard fight, and one debate wasn't/isn't going to change that. Put your best foot forward, because it's more effective than just standing around despairing or retreating, and the exercise will do you good.

ForgedCrank

(3,120 posts)
19. I don't
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:59 PM
Jun 2024

want anyone to get the idea that this is a "I'm depressed" post, because I'm not. My convictions have deep enough roots to survive this garbage, but it is affecting me at times and I get rather pissed at myself for allowing that crap to eat at me like it does. These people are cruel as hell, and it disgusts me.
I'm just openly sharing my experience, and I'm guessing a lot of others are dealing with it as well as I'm certainly not unique. I'm just honest and I'm always on the lookout for that one post out of 1,000 that is grounded and will connect with the way I think and have a meaningful impact.

 

Deek1935

(1,055 posts)
3. Forget about the debate and pundits and the nonsense. Just keep calling Trump a pathological liar.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:24 PM
Jun 2024

FarPoint

(14,940 posts)
6. Please try and re-focus....
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:26 PM
Jun 2024

The media goal is to manipulate and be trumpian as it is their mission for trying to bring tRump to Biden's level....thru means of ongoing blathering spew of hypothetical, irrelevant external opinions that have NOTHING to do with our leadership role for President. The media wants a false equivalency for tRump.... realize that...

Fuck the media...don't give them the message control;.

Ocelot II

(131,225 posts)
7. That's exactly what they want. The media want the drama,
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:29 PM
Jun 2024

and the trolls and bots and Russians and GOP want the disaster. Don't let them do it.

Timeflyer

(3,795 posts)
9. Maybe try volunteering for your local Democratic party--it puts you among good people who're working to stop tRump and
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:30 PM
Jun 2024

the MAGAt power suckers. And it keeps you busy--less time to dwell on the "firehose of falsehoods" (thanks, Ruth Ben-Ghiat, for that phrase) and the negative news. And vent right here on DU--we get it.

Hugin

(37,993 posts)
15. Yep, it's a scripted...
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:54 PM
Jun 2024

Centrally organized shit flinging festival. All of the usual suspects, too.

In a war of words and propaganda, the United States is woefully under prepared. Go ahead, fool us twice.

ForgedCrank

(3,120 posts)
16. What makes
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:54 PM
Jun 2024

me so irritated is I KNOW this already, but somehow I still allow it to get at me sometimes. I get pretty angry with myself for allowing this to happen.
I suppose it's just the massive and continuous volume of it all and so much negativity.

Hugin

(37,993 posts)
18. It's difficult to ignore by design...
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:59 PM
Jun 2024

Stick with the plan! Vote! Speak out! Re-elect Biden-Harris! Stay the course! Others will find encouragement and inspiration in your actions. They’re feeling alone right now.

jmbar2

(8,173 posts)
20. No need to feel bad about it
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 01:00 PM
Jun 2024

Americans are fairly new at being exposed to this type of propaganda, so we don't have strong immune systems yet. The Europeans are ahead of us and routinely educate their public about it. They have been warning us that we need to get smarter about it.

Here's an article about how Europe is dealing with it.
https://www.robert-schuman.eu/en/european-issues/665-european-policies-in-the-fight-to-counter-propaganda

This debate is waking up a lot of Americans to what is happening. That is a good thing!

Hugin

(37,993 posts)
22. FUD is some powerful wampum. n/t
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 01:12 PM
Jun 2024

(For the acronym despisers among the readers: FUD = Fear-Uncertainty-Doubt. It’s a methodology for information warfare intended to demoralize.)

usonian

(26,591 posts)
13. I'll gladly share my "trash" list. Got a few spare megabytes?
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:48 PM
Jun 2024

"Simplify, Simplify!" ... Thoreau.

Leader versus Liar.

Simple.
Control what you can control.

JI7

(93,900 posts)
17. I stopped watching most of the "news" media long time ago
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:55 PM
Jun 2024

Especially with their failure when it comes to reporting on Trump.

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