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Sogo

(7,186 posts)
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 02:51 PM Jun 2024

In 2019, Bernie Sanders had a heart attack on stage while campaigning....

He recovered fine, released his medical records, and continued campaigning.

Bernie Sanders’ doctors say he is fit to serve as president after heart attack

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/30/bernie-sanders-releases-medical-history-after-heart-attack.html



Joe should just do the same: Release medical records about the debate and a statement from his doctor that he had a cold and was on medication (or whatever was the situation).

And then we MOVE ON!

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LeftInTX

(34,216 posts)
1. Joe has already released his medical records.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 02:54 PM
Jun 2024

He likely had allergies. Unlike a heart attack, he didn't have "much going on" that isn't in his record already. He was fine the next day.

It was also probably other things: fatigue, poor debate prep, history of stuttering, bad mic settings (he talks soft, so he needs mic settings. Don't know why the mic settings weren't adjusted for him and why it has been that way throughout numerous press conferences.

Sogo

(7,186 posts)
2. I'm talking medical records pertaining to the day of the debate.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 02:57 PM
Jun 2024

If he had a cold or whatever, a President has immediately available medical attention.

LeftInTX

(34,216 posts)
3. There likely are not any that are different than any other day.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 03:00 PM
Jun 2024

He has allergies like half of the country does. He likely didn't consult with his doctor. I think "cold" was sent to the media by his team.

If he had something contagious, why did he go to the Waffle House immediately following the debate????

Sogo

(7,186 posts)
4. You don't get it. The nation needs to hear from his doctor!
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 03:17 PM
Jun 2024

NOW....

For example, you saying he has allergies is the first I've ever heard of that, and I follow politics pretty closely. If he was suffering from allergies, was he on medication and what are its side effects? Our President needs to inform and calm the nation. The way he looked was alarming to many....

The next day he was in North Carolina and gave a rousing speech. He stopped periodically in that and had some full throated coughs, not just polite clearing of throat, like during the debate. It sounded like a progressive cough, indicative of a respiratory event, like a cold or, as you say, allergies.

Wouldn't he want us to know?

DURHAM D

(33,053 posts)
5. Does the President have an allergist?
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 03:21 PM
Jun 2024

Most of us with seasonal allergies receive little help from the medical profession. We have to figure it out by ourselves by trial and error. Traveling to different parts of the country adds greatly to the difficulties of managing the problem.





Sogo

(7,186 posts)
6. He's the President. He probably has whatever kind of medical attention is needed,
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 03:27 PM
Jun 2024
whenever it is needed!

DURHAM D

(33,053 posts)
13. You don't get it.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 04:11 PM
Jun 2024

The Medical profession doesn't get it. They don't know shit about seasonal allergies.

LeftInTX

(34,216 posts)
18. How many doctors travel with sitting president at any given time?
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 05:37 PM
Jun 2024

The flight surgeon is the doctor assigned the president while he is traveling.

Allergists give allergy shots, they rarely provide urgent care. A flight surgeon can provide urgent care for common ailments.

This is ridiculous. Who on earth has an allergist traveling with them at all times?

Almost everyone in the United States has allergies.


I'm really wondering here?????



LeftInTX

(34,216 posts)
7. Does the president have a daily medical report??
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 03:41 PM
Jun 2024

I have no idea...

If anything, it would be something like
Presentation: Mild hoarseness and sinus congestion. Mild inflammation of pharynx
DX: Irritation of the pharynx due to allergies and acid reflux.
TX: Continue with Pepcid AC and prescribed allergy medications

(Not written...drink water and suck on lozenges if speaking. Sometimes doctors forgot to tell us the obvious)

orange jar

(878 posts)
8. It would just confirm that he had a cold.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 03:43 PM
Jun 2024

Not that his cold is necessarily what affected his performance.

LeftInTX

(34,216 posts)
9. Correct. It's not a heart attack
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 03:45 PM
Jun 2024

Generally at the least, a heart attack would make you walk off stage. It would be against medical advice to stay on stage during a heart attack.

Everyone gets colds. Unless his doctor ordered him not to engage in public speaking, it would be futile.

Emile

(42,207 posts)
10. I think a respected physcologist should examine Trump
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 03:45 PM
Jun 2024

and give an honest report if he is sane or not!

What do you think?

LeftInTX

(34,216 posts)
16. Yeah, the presentation is just about the same in everyone
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 04:47 PM
Jun 2024

Irritated throat....

With me: I get laryngitis at the drop of a hat.
Laryngitis does not show up on a routine exam.
It's a symptom. And it can happen really fast with me.

Other people don't get laryngitis.

Once you get it, it tends to come back. I've had it dozens of times.

Sogo

(7,186 posts)
19. Which is another thing I have been thinking: what his campaign should have done was say he has laryngitis
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 05:41 PM
Jun 2024

and call off his appearance.

Or when he started speaking, Joe should have said, "You'll have to pardon me, folks. I have a touch of laryngitis." (Hence the weak voice.)

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