How Could One Person - In Such A Short Time - Undermine The Whole Of American Democracy......

[global1]

This country has over 200+ tested years under its belt - and a guy like Tr**p comes along and destroys this?

I don't get it. How can this happen?

Then I got to think that he didn't do this all by himself. He was just the right person with the right personality and ego to be used as a patsy - to make this all come about.

There's been talk about the 'deep state'. All along the Repugs and Tr**p attributed the 'deep state' to the Dems.

Again - was this projection on their part? Was the 'deep state' smoldering under our eyes - all the time to really be attributed to the Repugs?

Did this Repug 'deep state' just have the patience's to take small strides over the years to finally get to this stage in our country where all roads came together for them to push it to where we are today?

Who is Tr**p taking his orders from? Who is - behind the scenes - giving Tr**p the muscle to make this all come about?

We're on the brink here. I can't attribute what has occurred in these years of Tr**p to only Tr**p. He's being used and he just has the right attitude, affect and arrogance to pull this off.

[onecaliberal]

1. It's not one person. It really fucking is a vast reicht wing conspiracy.

Congress, courts, media, corporations.

They all want us to work for their money while they kill us. A shocking amount of Dems are all too willing to help.

[Irish_Dem]

5. Hillary called it decades ago.

[shrike3]

2. The table was set for him.

The hunting of Clinton, Bush, the teabaggers, the Birthers.

He happened along at the right time. Wrong time for the country.

[Retrograde]

3. He had a lot of help

From the wealthy who envisioned their taxes going down with Republicans in charge, to industrialists who saw regulations going away with a compliant court, to religious reactionaries who saw a chance to stack the courts in their favor to the Good Old Folks who wouldn't cotton to a woman in charge. I think a lot of people - especially those who control the money and the media - saw him as a useful puppet who'd keep the masses distracted while they undermined Democracy.

And it worked, and is still working.

[Irish_Dem]

4. The US gov't is run on the honor system.

And it falls apart when there is no honor.

[MiHale]

6. He's the bull in the china shop...

But all the displays have been weakened over time making them rickety and fragile. Conservative ‘think tanks’ structured them for complete destruction. They just needed a bull. They finally got one.

[ImNotGod]

7. its been a decades long slow burn, starting with the john birch society

The fire is now out of control it would seem.

[Silent Type]

8. He would never have gained office if a few Democrats hadn't protested 2016 because their candidate lost primaries.

It's really frustrating to realize this didn't have to happen. Water under bridge now, but . . . . . .

[PeaceWave]

29. Bingo. And, it wasn't just a few. The consequences were massive.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. America had a nice run.

[rainy]

10. Gerrymandering and electoral college

are the roots to republican minority rule.

[Progressive dog]

11. He had a lot of help

from the theocrats who think their interpretation of their god is superior to our Constitution and observable facts. The money and media support from the very wealthy didn't hurt either.
The Federalist society now owns SCOTUS, that's been the plan for decades.
We'd better get out and vote and do whatever we can to put Democrats in charge of both houses and the presidency. This might be our last chance to vote and have it count.

[dweller]

12. All roads lead to Putin

with him




✌🏻

[Doodley]

23. Correct. Trump is a foreign agent. He puts Putin over America, and we are seeing the same playbook with many of our

closest allies.

[MOMFUDSKI]

13. With a ton of

help from all corners

[Turbineguy]

14. The same way Hitler did.

Lots of help.

[unblock]

15. If it aa just one person, he would have been laughed out of the room

Trump's lies and corruption and malintent are obvious.

Trump did not create the movement, the movement created trump.

Decades of right wing radio propaganda, foxnews lies, the gradual stacking of the judiciary and the Supreme Court, the foreign money, etc.

All of it created the political shitheap where someone like Donnie could thrive.

[Calculating]

16. Because it's not just him

A large amount of Americans support him and think we need to try something new in this country because their lives have been bad under the current system.

[onethatcares]

32. yeah, was wondering about that

the folks that believed him and his lies. What happens when the check is not in the mailbox or the medicare isn't covering the needed coverage. Do they think they're special and will live the good life while their neighbors go homeless?

This country is a great one and wealthy enough to make it work for everyone but the greedsters and power hungry want it all.

[republianmushroom]

17. Not one person, the convicted felon has had a lot of help.

What happened to the 14th amendment ? Seem the DOJ and courts do not want go anywhere near it.

[mzmolly]

18. A corrupt SCOTUS.

That's how.

[Towlie]

19. The Offspring should rewrite the lyrics to The Kids Aren't Alright.

Lyrics, The Kids Aren't Alright

"How can one little man trash all of our rights?"

[Different Drummer]

20. We had a republic, We just didn't keep it in the manner that the founders imagined.

: :

[bigtree]

21. accomplices

[ITAL]

22. It's mostly him

...And his voters.


People forget the Republican Establishment wasn't really with him at all back in the day. They hardly attended his first convention in 2016. Many jumped off the bandwagon after the "grab'em" tape. Even after he was first elected they didn't bend the knee for him so much. But as the weeks became months and they saw how Trump's voters didn't abandon him, and if anything supported him to the death, they became a craven group. Plus they got the judges, which they always wanted. The GOP also saw anyone who was an apostate was crushed (think about your Jeff Flake's etc.).

The Establishment had their last chance in the aftermath of January 6th, when some slowly tried to cling to a degree of sanity. However, once again they saw their voters largely were with Trump, so they backed away, hoping he'd fade. He didn't. So as '21 became '22..and '22 became '23 -- again they began the slow migration back to Trump.

[Autumn]

24. It wasn't one person. it was the Republican party. It was the media. It was the corruption.

It was the corporations. It was some complacent Democrats.

[Hekate]

25. It was never "one person" and never "recently." Forty-plus years a cabal has been working on this

Please look up Rachel Maddow’s podcasts on the previous rise of fascism. It has a long history in the 20th century.

[RockRaven]

26. You are mistaking one very noticeable late stage symptom for the disease.

[TheKentuckian]

27. It has never been a functional and healthy democracy

Decades of right wing impunity.

He had a lot of help.

[delisen]

28. Price of Liberty is eternal vigilance

We apparently let down our guard.

We still have some room to recoup. I believe we will unify, set the priorities and take the necessary risks to save ourselves and our society.

[0rganism]

30. Not one man, hundreds. Not 10 years, 50.

We're living in the endgame of a process that's been playing out since the Watergate break-in.

[CBHagman]

31. It may appear that way, but it's a group effort.

Consider the years-long efforts of the Federalist Society, Leonard Leo, Senator Mitch McConnell, and so on.

We also mustn't ignore the reach of Fox News and other right-wing media.

[mucholderthandirt]

33. It's been going on for decades, if not longer.

Look at history. Remember Bush v Gore. Remember Reagan, the first Bush. Don't forget people thinking religion was what makes us be good, and only fear of Hell kept us good. Remember have to give the rich tax cuts, because they create jobs, while the poor and working class got taxed at higher relative rates. Don't forget how Anita Hill was treated.

Don't forget Democrats whose only motive for people to vote for them was "we're not as bad as the other guy" and those who weren't and aren't any better than Republicans. Don't tell me they aren't out there, you guys talk about them all the time. Don't forget Democrats who spent half an hour explaining something, while the Republicans had short, snappy soundbites. We have some now who can come back, who can give short, easy answers, but for decades it wasn't so.

Put up better candidates, put out short and to the point messages, don't let the lies go unchallenged.