--Independents: Trump leads Biden 44/34. Harris leads Trump 43/40

[DemocratSinceBirth]

PER CNN

[edisdead]

1. uh huh. sure

I do not believe that is anywhere close to reality.

[Polybius]

9. The part about Harris leading?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

2. Is this the same CNN that put on a sham "debate"?

I wouldn't trust anything CNN says at this point.

[Cha]

11. lol.. for some reason that

struck my morbid funny bone.. "the same CNN..?"

And, I could use a laugh at this point. So TY!

[Silent Type]

3. Both of these polls have a lot of people who are still undecided. Have no idea what that means for election.

[Deek1935]

5. Polls have NO predictive value in determining election results. None. Especially four months away.

[Silent Type]

8. Polls do have predictive value unless you don't like what they are saying. Some, maybe a Lot.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. Polls are a snapshot in time.

That being said we're on a losing trajectory. Magical thinking isn't going to change that.

[Azathoth]

6. Come on, we know exactly what it means

It means people think both candidates are a joke. The Insane vs The Infirm.

These are the people who don't follow politics closely, who are in general suspicious of politicians, and either won't vote, or will snap vote based on some arbitrary metric or preexisting bias.

[Deek1935]

4. Polls don't mean diddly shit right now. Nothing.

[Azathoth]

7. We're four months from the election. They mean a lot

This isn't a hypothetical matchup 14 months out. These are two *very* well known party nominees (almost) going head-to-head.

Yes, a lot can still change in 15 weeks, but you can't argue that people haven't gotten to know the candidates or tuned into the race.

[edhopper]

10. We can only talk about

Golden Unicorns and rainbows here.
Anything to show we are in trouble is verboten.