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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGet ready for another media blast about Biden and his age
The NYT - Bidens Lapses Are Said to Be Increasingly Common - then picked up by The New Republic titled Bombshell Report Reveals Bidens Memory Lapses Are Increasing. CNN title Biden's Lapses Could Have Been Covered Better. ETC.
NYT "journalists":
By Peter Baker, David E. Sanger, Zolan Kanno-Youngs and Katie Rogers
The usual suspects?
My question: WHO could replace Biden. And if NOBODY is the answer why is this shredding happening??
Wingus Dingus
(9,173 posts)dweller
(28,410 posts)Biden will beat the Pisswig this November and they fear that could bring down their rotten plans
✌🏻
claudette
(5,455 posts)"nobody?" Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom are two I would name. NOT that I want President Biden to bow out. But, if, god forbid, he wins and something should happen to him, I think undecideds and independents are thinking about who would replace him.
flamingdem
(40,891 posts)than Biden.
So my question remains. What's this really all about?
claudette
(5,455 posts)speculation - and wondering. I'm not calling for President Biden to step out. You asked for suggestions of replacements. It's all speculation and imagining.
PortTack
(35,820 posts)0rganism
(25,647 posts)Ideally, Biden would resign so she could inherit the incumbent position before the convention.
flamingdem
(40,891 posts)Seems sketchy at best.
Republicans seem to love the idea of Kamala running. Dog whistles galore on twitter etc. "supporting her".
0rganism
(25,647 posts)I'm not sure how representative of final results that would be, but I am sure of this much: the MSM is not going to let go of Biden's debate performance, or the internal leaking about his alleged senescence. If they wanted to cover TSF's mountain of bullshit extensively, they would have by now. Their narrative is getting locked in.
Switching to a Harris ticket presents risks that would be partially mitigated if she took over the presidency before the convention. Staying with Biden also presents risks that seem impossible to mitigate at this time.
We're out of alternatives that aren't sketchy. Everything has associated risks, and right now, while we bicker and fret, evil is walking away with the game. We might not have a winning answer, and as the Mythbusters pointed out repeatedly, "failure is always an option."
PortTack
(35,820 posts)0rganism
(25,647 posts)There's a really toxic narrative forming around Biden's candidacy and if it goes unaddressed it will swallow this nation whole. The Biden/Harris campaign should spend as much as possible to blast TSF going into the convention cos that money might not be available later.
Frasier Balzov
(5,062 posts)Transfers to party committees appear to be permissible.
"Campaign committees may make unlimited transfers to any national, state or local party committee."
The party committee then theoretically throws everything it's got behind the replacement candidate.
https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/making-disbursements/transfers/
question everything
(52,134 posts)valleyrogue
(2,715 posts)flamingdem
(40,891 posts)or they're naive.
claudette
(5,455 posts)especially if she runs agains the orange felon. It would be reliving a "Hillary" fiasco.
PortTack
(35,820 posts)0rganism
(25,647 posts)When I was younger, people would claim that America would never elect a Black president. They too were wrong.
Right now we're looking at running a well-intentioned, honorable, decent, competent, elderly man who's showing his age against a vicious serial felon/predator who isn't showing his age, at least not in a way that matters, because he doesn't bother to work or learn anything ever. Americans tend to vote for candidates who seem willing and able to shape reality, for better or worse. Right now, that's looking more like TSF than Biden, much as I appreciate him.
Harris is the only Democrat in a position to face down TSF but she has to start with incumbency to do it.
Maybe I'm wrong, that's how I see it.
Deek1935
(1,055 posts)governance has been good with many solid accomplishments. If we lose incumbency and party unity we lose to the orange psycho.
Those are predictive factors. Debates are not. The so-called "toxic narrative" is media-driven bullshit
hype.
Losing Biden throws the party into disunity and disarray.
This debate shit is just that. People don't care about debates. They care about governance.
0rganism
(25,647 posts)Even by your assessment, that will have a detrimental effect.
Losing Biden? That could happen any day, well outside our parameters of preference. His apparent fragility is a major issue, outpacing TSF's history as a pedophile.
American voters may value governance but we also have a proven ability to vote for government's destruction. We've been known to look backwards through rosy lenses, and make obviously suboptimal choices. That can easily happen again.
If we truly prioritized healthy government over convincing storytelling, Jimmy Carter and Al Gore would have had highly successful 8-year presidencies.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)
IN A COUNTDOWN BULLETIN PODCAST: I now believe the President is going to stand aside and Kamala Harris will replace him as the nominee, and I think there is as much as a 50-50 chance he will also resign his office before the election.
This is NOT based on sourced reporting or inside information but merely an accumulation of new developments during the course of Tuesday, and I take no pleasure in making any of these conclusions, and I haven't even thought long enough about them to be certain if I concur or am opposed to this outcome.
After Nancy Pelosi's comments today about President Biden and how "I think it's a legitimate question to say, is this an episode or is this a condition? When people ask that question, it's completely legitimate" and how nothing she could have said would do less to tamp down speculation or debate, and especially after today's report of leaked internal swing state Democratic polling, I think - as my friend of half a century Will Bunch put it, "it feels like an energy shift in the force."
The polling is described in detail. The bottom line is that in the 72 hours after the debate, Democratic internal pollsters OpenLabs reported that the six swing states had become twelve swing states and Biden had lost about two points in both of them and was now trailing Trump in Michigan and Pennsylvania by seven.
That is not sustainable.
GET THE BULLETIN COUNTDOWN PODCAST HERE: https://tinyurl.com/4fcedz7v
flamingdem
(40,891 posts)Like so many pundits. Click me!
dchill
(42,660 posts)Do tell.
valleyrogue
(2,715 posts)Why is Trump allowed to remain?
TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)flamingdem
(40,891 posts)But many proposing that Biden step down are democrats.
Are they so stupid, really?
valleyrogue
(2,715 posts)This country is FINISHED if he is forced out. FINISHED.
No such demand is being made on Donald Trump.
flamingdem
(40,891 posts)It might take that to shut up the peanut gallery.
They're shameless and don't seem to care who wins if they can get some attention.
senseandsensibility
(24,975 posts)And unfair as it is, it's not gonna stop. Biden's team needs a strategy.
flamingdem
(40,891 posts)I wish they'd grab the moment and go full on attack.
Watching Biden debate I kept thinking: GET ANGRY!
I'm 100% Biden but a strategy is needed. I hope they're open to ideas.
senseandsensibility
(24,975 posts)seems to be completely tone deaf.
flamingdem
(40,891 posts)I think he trusts him but Obama wouldn't interfere.
And someone vicious and effective.
PortTack
(35,820 posts)Freethinker65
(11,203 posts)Are there indications that Biden has recently been having TIAs when comparing recent MRIs to previous ones? Is there evidence of new or worsening brain aneurysms (similar to those he underwent surgery for decades ago)? I could accept a change at the top of the ticket for some very new life/quality of life threatening condition that requires treatment making the job of President in the future questionable.
It would have to be something very new, otherwise the Democratic Party would be seen as negligent in letting the nomination get to this point knowing Biden was unwell. Almost as bad as Republicans coming back into the fold to support insurrection encouraging Trump, knowing he is a self serving vindictive con man who has always put himself first and will seek to bully, belittle, and destroy anyone that disagrees with him.
flamingdem
(40,891 posts)from both sides, lol!
orangecrush
(30,261 posts)All day today
valleyrogue
(2,715 posts)No calls, of course, to force Trump out despite his being a convicted felon and a pathological liar.
flamingdem
(40,891 posts)There is some inflammatory Epstein reporting that Trump was involved with underage girls, etc. Hasn't been picked up though. Saw this on Rachel Bitecofer's twitter.
Bettie
(19,704 posts)and apparently thinks if they suck up hard enough, if he is reinstalled, they will survive.
flamingdem
(40,891 posts)Welcome to authoritarianism where people and organizations self censor in fear.
Bettie
(19,704 posts)are rich enough that they want more tax cuts, so they want that orange creature and Project 2025.