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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs it possible that the Supreme Court conspired with Donald Trump and Steve Bannon...?
...to come up with their ruling on "absolute immunity"?
Because it sounded like something that Steve Bannon would write. And because it sounds very much like the right wing plan in Project 2025.
And because Steve Bannon was so certain that he would not go to prison. Why did he think that?
And the bounds that all of them went to protect Donald Trump and their plan to demolish the "administrative state". I could see how all six of the radical Justices, including John Roberts, would think that was a good idea.
And how they were willing to misinterpret the Constitution in order to rule that Trump had special immunity and could not go to jail. They even built in the safeguard where each specific charge against the President could be appealed to the Supreme Court and they would be the final arbiter.
The ruling yesterday was one of the most partisan rulings I have ever seen or read about in my many years.
I get the feeling that the Trump/Bannon agenda is the same as the Thomas/Alito agenda of the radical Supreme Court. They are all on board.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)wnylib
(26,222 posts)Bannon was stating very emphatically that there is absolutely No way that Trump will lose this election.
Bannon has inside knowledge on how Trump will pull off a scam. Probably had a strong hand in developing the scam.
And yes, the SC has helped Trump and will help him become dictator. Their ruling on being the determiners of Trump immunity is their way of getting Trump in office, and controlling him for the people who bought the court. .
no_hypocrisy
(55,074 posts)kentuck
(115,453 posts)They are definitely in.
Bettie
(19,782 posts)pay them a lot more than their actual paychecks....I really do wonder if there are suitcases full of cash involved.
wnylib
(26,222 posts)Eko
(10,023 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,518 posts)viva la
(4,610 posts)That must be the most horrific position to be in. They probably all want to resign but can't.
Have thought of Justice Jackson wanting to get out a few times; her family too.
orange jar
(878 posts)Or I could be projecting .
mountain grammy
(29,087 posts)elleng
(141,926 posts)Sure.
MOMFUDSKI
(7,080 posts)SC dirty half-dozen play for pay.
BigmanPigman
(55,301 posts)Model35mech
(2,047 posts)special powers and presumptions afforded to a president is right up his ally.
Kingofalldems
(40,325 posts)I imagine some billionaires also sat in on the meetings.
orangecrush
(30,643 posts)
chouchou
(3,198 posts)Ask yourself this...Would that many people agree so tightly, regarding such an important tenet.
(Tenet: A doctrine, principle held as part by a vacuous philosophy.)
kentuck
(115,453 posts)Why was Mike Johnson and the Republicans wanting to go to the Supreme Court to keep Steve Bannon from going to jail.
They were likely admonished that it "would look too obvious" that the Supreme Court was all in with their plan to destroy the "administrative state". They must have thought they could keep anonymity from the rest of the conspirators against our democracy.
That is why they were willing to ignore the Constitution and make up their own rules to protect their own.
gab13by13
(32,483 posts)Are they conspiring to rig the election?
kentuck
(115,453 posts)If any election controversies are taken to the Court, we can guess which way they will go.
For sure.
wnylib
(26,222 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 3, 2024, 10:46 AM - Edit history (1)
With their ruling that the SC determines what is covered by immunity and what isn't they protect AND control Trump for the people who bought them. The goal is to keep Dems out of government, especially the WH, put their own guy in, get their agenda fulfilled through him, and control how far he can go in serving himself more than the puppet masters of the SC 6.
madamesilverspurs
(16,516 posts)if they didn't.
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kentuck
(115,453 posts)...and believe that they are pulling the wool over the eyes of everyone on the "far left".
Patton French
(1,824 posts)They are completely capable of coming up with that all on their own.
kentuck
(115,453 posts)They would all follow someone like Bannon or Trump to do the unthinkable, which seems to be what they did with their ruling yesterday.
They are so close to victory they can smell it. The only way they can lose is if the next election is "rigged". Wait! Where have we heard that before?
Patton French
(1,824 posts)No way that can came up with any legal reasoning. The reality is that the six dont need any guidance from political idiots. They know what they want and they know how to get there in a legal opinion. Youre giving Bannon and Trump way too much credit.
kentuck
(115,453 posts)Criminals have their own special genius.
Patton French
(1,824 posts)Im just saying, theres a reason those justices were chosen. They dont need guidance.
ancianita
(43,312 posts)The reason? The Koch oligarch network. See Sheldon Whitehouse's 'The Scheme' series.
As for guidance, they need accountability, since rule of law left the building a while back in this session.
usaf-vet
(7,827 posts)ancianita
(43,312 posts)budkin
(6,849 posts)Who would put it past them?
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)old boys club discussions, promises of future bribes, and worse, are enough to get the instructions across.
TexasDem69
(2,317 posts)Its possible the moon is made of cheese, which seems just as likely as the Supreme Court taking instructions from Bannon or Trump.
V850i
(125 posts)Someone should challenge that somehow. The SC is supposed to consider the validity of laws passed by Congress and it applies to our Constitution. They interpret the Constitution to make those decisions. Here there were no laws regarding immunity of the President passed by Congress and there is nothing in the Constitution stating any kind of immunity. In addition they will often weigh in on the balance between the 3 branches but even that is not valid here since there is only one branch of government involved, the executive.