This is a fantastically threatening statement.

[kpete]

Heritage Foundation president celebrates Supreme Court presidential immunity ruling: "We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be"

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KEVIN ROBERTS (HERITAGE FOUNDATION PRESIDENT): In spite of all this nonsense from the left, we are going to win. We're in the process of taking this country back. No one in the audience should be despairing.

No one should be discouraged. We ought to be really encouraged by what happened yesterday. And in spite of all of the injustice, which, of course, friends and audience of this show, of our friend Steve know, we are going to prevail.

Number two, to the point of the clips and, of course, your preview of the fact that I am an early American historian and love the Constitution. That Supreme Court ruling yesterday on immunity is vital, and it's vital for a lot of reasons. But I would go to Federalist No. 70.

If people in the audience are looking for something to read over Independence Day weekend, in addition to rereading the Declaration of Independence, read Hamilton's No. 70 because there, along with some other essays, in some other essays, he talks about the importance of a vigorous executive.

You know, former congressman, the importance of Congress doing its job, but we also know the importance of the executive being able to do his job. And can you imagine, Dave Brat, any president, put politics off to the side, any president having to second guess, triple guess every decision they're making in their official capacity, you couldn't have the republic that you just described.

But number three, let me speak about the radical left. You and I have both been parts of faculties and faculty senates and understand that the left has taken over our institutions. The reason that they are apoplectic right now, the reason that so many anchors on MSNBC, for example, are losing their minds daily is because our side is winning.

And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.

https://www.mediamatters.org/project-2025/heritage-foundation-president-celebrates-supreme-court-immunity-decision-we-are

[The Magistrate]

1. It Certainly Is

[Hekate]

70. They have told us who they are, Sir

I’m staying here, though. My future is shorter than that of my grandchildren, the oldest of whom will vote for the first time this November. I hope to live long enough to see this country right itself, though that may be the work of at least a generation. Still, morning hope is better than midnight despair.

[Easterncedar]

2. What the ever-loving hell

[Lovie777]

3. Yes, that is a threat..........................

US SC 6 justices care nothing about America's safety. RW corporate media refuse to cover the dangers of this, but Pres Biden is old.

[keithbvadu2]

4. The Second American Revolution... reinstalling a king.

[Celerity]

5. after that, in the spirit of what comes around goes around, the re-emergence of chattel, race-based slavery

[keithbvadu2]

8. Ginni Thomas

[Hekate]

67. Not to mention -- women enslaved to endless childbearing

[Irish_Dem]

7. Ironic isn't? Going from King George to King Donald.

Took 250 years to go right back to a royal family.

[Elessar Zappa]

9. I'd rather have King George than Trump, frankly.

The British certainly weren’t interested in democracy but by the standards of that time, they were a relatively free country.

[Irish_Dem]

13. King George was killing colonists, burning down their houses, etc.

It was getting ugly.

But your point is taken, at least George was predictable and had boundaries.

He was not going to burn the entire colony down.

And he accepted eventual defeat and allowed the US to survive and thrive.

[Elessar Zappa]

60. Oh, I'm not defending George by any means.

Just wanted to emphasize how much I hate Trump lol.

[Irish_Dem]

65. Copy that!

[Marcus IM]

78. So did Washington's army. Those who wouldn't sign a loyalty oath ....

... they could leave their property and homes or die.

Read up on the plight of the French speaking Acadians and those who were not aligned with the colonist insurrection/coup that was reliant on foreign mercenaries for hire.

[Codifer]

18. Who tsf wants to be

is Henry VIII.

Oh what fun that will be.

[Irish_Dem]

27. Combination of HenryVIII and Emperor Caligula

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Caligula was known for his brutality and cruelty.

[Dave Bowman]

77. With a big pinch of Nero, shaken, not stirred.

[Grins]

46. More like Henry the V.

Far more narcissistic with a willingness to kill and torture anyone who crossed him.

[underpants]

14. Tories were conservatives

Didn’t want change supported the Crown. A large portion of the Colonies were Tories. 25-30%, sound familiar.

I guess they always did, they just wrapped themselves in the flag and made it seem like the had a halo ….and here we are.

[Zambero]

26. The British term "Tory" is still synonymous with conservative

Conservatives of the day allied themselves with King George much as they side with their aspiring King Donald today.

[underpants]

35. Yep and yep

[Irish_Dem]

6. They will burn it all down to get what they want.

Make no mistake about it.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

24. Republicons have thrown away all principles in pursuit of power and lost the plot of the US of A

Adultery? Divorce? "Who cares, it's our Trump". Even as they scheme to remove rights to divorce.

Pedophilia? They accuse Biden of it while excusing tRump's tight friendship with Epstein.

Peaceful transition of power? "Jan 6 was just well-behaved tourism."

Lying? "Thou shalt not bear false witness unless it is to gain power over the left." "You can even lie to us and the base."

Presidential absolute power? "It's okay because we can trust Biden and Democrats not to abuse it while tRump and our guys abuse it."



They are happy with division, strife, and dis-uniting the United States. What for? Power over others, especially over non-whites and mostly over women.

[Irish_Dem]

28. They want total permanent power and access to all US financial assets.

They will do whatever it takes to achieve these goals.

[rubbersole]

61. Just 81+ million people say no.

[Irish_Dem]

66. The people either say no or they will face a steep learning curve.

[Deuxcents]

10. So..a revolution is coming and those who oppose the dismantling of our democracy

Should just sit back and let them take over need to know it will be “bloodless” if we just let them have their way. Arrogant bastard.

[Hieronymus Phact]

21. it really smacks of timeless classic:

"She made me do it"

[rubbersole]

69. Even more fun...

🎶 Megan Maroney's "He Made Me Do It". 'Daddy would've killed him, Momma would've dug the grave.'

[SARose]

11. What hubris

Just because you want to win in November doesn’t mean you will.

Who is the radical left? I don’t consider myself either radical or left. I consider myself a Centrist Democrat.

This fascist, extreme ideation has to stop. Republicans are a minority party. They live in a dream world of hate, fear and retaliation for perceived wrongs.

I never hear a single Republican talk about their vision for America. Why is that?

[2naSalit]

12. They have declared war on the US...

And we NEED to respond accordingly.

[hadEnuf]

20. Time to prepare.

This is what the 2nd Amendment was written for, not the perverted version the right has been pushing for years.

[global1]

15. Who Is This Kevin Roberts?.....

What do we know about him? Where did he come from? What is he all about? Is he an product of the Repug Party?

Is he a wealthy billionaire? Does he have foreign ties? How did he get to be the president of the Heritage Foundation?

What are his credentials?

Don't you think we should know more about him?

Roberts? Any relation to the other Roberts?

[travelingthrulife]

16. Heritage Foundation is a terrorist group and should be declared as such

Project 2025 baby! Dismantle the government so the oligarchs can consume our country in smaller bite-sized pieces

[Rebl2]

19. Heritage Foundation

should have been investigated many years ago.

[onecaliberal]

36. Fuck garland and his criminal malpractice DOJ.

[allegorical oracle]

45. Agree...at least a designated hate organization. nt

[Wounded Bear]

17. The Divine Right of Assholes in operation...

[Kid Berwyn]

22. "Gott mit Uns"

“And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”



I support the American Revolution and the CONSTITUTION of the United States, not this second revolution where the NAZI Steve Bannon plays Alexander Hamilton to a slimy tee vee personality’s George Washington.

[Magoo48]

23. Thanks for your words, kpete.

I believe before a true “hot” revolution breaks out, our nation is likely to splinter. This may be accompanied by some active resistance. Hopefully my belief becomes proved wrong, and soon.

That said, I live in California, on the left coast, our voting suggests we don’t want to live under fascism.

[Bluethroughu]

25. DOJ???????

Smells like a coup, reads like a coup, it is a coup. Do your job.

[Think. Again.]

30. ⬆️⬆️⬆️This⬆️⬆️⬆️

[The Unmitigated Gall]

31. Garland: *SNARFLE-snore*

[Bettie]

54. It might look political

if they so much as commented on it. So, there will not be a single peep from the DOJ.

[Augiedog]

29. Bloodless my ass

[S/V Loner]

38. Bloodless if everyone knuckles under. N/T

[Auggie]

59. Exactly

[oldmanlynn]

32. And we the left will let it remain bloodless

We are stunned by what’s happening to the point that we are like a deer in headlights, stunned into only being able to talk about how its unfair what the bullies are doing.

[onecaliberal]

37. The DOJ literally did nothing about the coup attempt. People here attacked people like me pointing it out.

Now here we are. I don’t get why it is shocking,

[Mr.WeRP]

33. That is Terrorism.

[waterwatcher123]

34. Maybe Consider Sending in a Complaint to the IRS about the Heritage Foundation (they are a tax exempt org).

Nonprofit organizations have strict requirements about avoiding political activity. So, maybe consider sending a complaint into the IRS about the Heritage Foundation's abuse of their tax exempt status (Project 2025 would be a good topic). Most nonprofit organizations are very protective of their tax exempt status and are loathe to do anything that would endanger it. But, the Heritage Foundation is very much involved in political activity.

Here is the link in case you want to consider it (https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/irs-complaint-process-tax-exempt-organizations).

[patphil]

39. I interpret that as a pretext to justify the bloodshed this guy is hoping for.

He says he loves the constitution, but I call BS on that. He wants a president that's beyond the constitution; someone who can act like the King George our ancestors fought to free themselves from 240 years ago.
If immunity is so vital for a president, why wasn't it vital for each and every president prior to Trump?

Kevin Roberts is so full of shit. He just wants someone in power who hates the same people he hates, and is ready, willing, and able to treat them with the same callous viciousness he would like to have the power to also do.
His dream is a Putin style dictatorship where there is only one party and anyone who opposes it is either dead, in prison, has fled the country, or lives a life of daily fear of attack.
His second revolution is a kill shot to our Constitutional, Democratic Republic.

[Ohioboy]

63. Exactly, what is Trump going to be doing that he needs so much power?

[patphil]

71. Have you been listening to Trump?

Dictator on day one.
Prosecuting his enemies, which includes any member of Congress that voted for his impeachment, and all the January 6th panel members. Plus, all those prosecutors, lawyers, judges, and jury members who ever dared to bring him to trial and convict him. Plus all the members of the news media who criticized him. The list is endless.
Throwing millions of illegal and LEGAL immigrants out of the country.

How far do I have to go? He wants to be a dictator. That requires a rejection of the rule of law, including the constitution. He wants a consequences free presidency so he can act with impunity to do whatever he wants to whom ever he wants.
Does that answer your question?

[Ohioboy]

74. Oh I know. I was being sarcastic!

I meant in the context of other presidents didn't need more power, only one that wants to be a dictator.

[patphil]

75. Oops, ok, gotcha.

[flying_wahini]

40. You mean by bloodless like VOTING?

The HF can go fuck themselves. Not gonna
Iie down and take it.

[Think. Again.]

41. The supreme court has ruled that...

...Biden can have every member of the heritage foundation "disappeared" for public safety reasons, without fear of prosecution.

[moondust]

42. Despotism or death!

Call it what it is.

[Towlie]

43. "Taking this country back" from whom? And to whom?

Who are these people who apparently claim to have owned this country, had it taken from them, and are in the process of taking it back?

The claim would be intelligible if they were The British Monarchy or America's indigenous tribes, but neither the Heritage Foundation nor any group they claim to represent have ever owned this country in the first place!

[oldsoftie]

44. If Trump wins & tries what we fear he will, I'm afraid this ends one way

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And the bottom line is his VP becomes president.
Because if they keep pushing and pushing SOMEONE somewhere is going to be pushed over that edge we shouldn't cross.

[Quixote1818]

47. Investigative reporters needs to see if this is a concerted effort

Between them and the Supreme Court and Trump. We may need to be working to get the Generals aware of what's in planning. We can't be caught sleeping here.

[SidneyR]

48. Everyone wants to simplify everything.

But the argument the petulant colonists had was more with Parliament than it was with King George III. The British system already had a limited monarchy at the time and in reality it was the policies and taxes levied by Parliament that angered the colonists, who felt they shouldn't even have to pay for their own defense. In fact, though, the ordinary Brit in Britland paid more in taxes than the American colonist did. The whole conflict was ginned up by a colonial elite chaffing at the limitations of empire. They wanted to get richer and so they dragged ordinary colonists along with them, as elites often do. No surprise that it was a rich man's fight, paid for with the poor man's blood. I for one am not completely sure it was worth it, especially seeing what we ended up with.

[dlk]

49. The Heritage Foundation is spitting in the face of our democracy and daring us to do anything about it

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They are our enemies, proudly and openly decimating our democracy. We must all do what we can to stop them. Time is of the essence!

[Grins]

50. When they tell you who they really are - believe them!

I am quite confident the the DNC messaging machine will see this - and ignore the possibilities of what they can do with it.

[tetedur]

51. When the blood starts flowing how are we going to tell who to kill?

Are we going to line up in the fields and march toward each other?

[Marthe48]

52. What a f*****g hack

He's got to be the kevin for which all the magat kevins are named.
Unhinged fascist maniac.

[BittyJenkins]

53. Government!..

Do something about it!!!!!
It is obvious, why are we sitting still.

[Turbineguy]

55. They think they are closer than ever before.

To taking over.

Power, it's a powerful motive.

[Cheezoholic]

56. So, a declaration of war. There's a lot more of us on the left locked and loaded than they know. Fuck them, bring it n/t

[byronius]

57. Insane Nazi bastards.

You’ll get what you deserve, not what you want.

[dlk]

58. It is a dare

Will we rise up to meet the challenge?

[peggysue2]

62. An open threat

A call for war. Can't get any plainer.

Btw, it's traitorous!

[Mblaze]

64. In other words

Shut up and take it. The only "heritage" that the Heritage Foundation espouses lost the first Civil War so they are afraid of a second.

[StarryNite]

68. Kick

[D23MIURG23]

72. Christofascist Devolution.

Don't count on anyone rolling over, Nazis. We beat you last time, and we will this time too.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

73. Biden-Harris campaign statement on Trump's Project 2025 leader threatening violence

Link to tweet

[gay texan]

76. Id like to see that stuffed suit try

Liberals own guns

[Fla Dem]

79. So either we sit down and shut up or their guns come out and the assassinations begin.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

80. Heritage Foundation president raises alarm with cryptic threat

Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts raised new concerns with a cryptic threat about a "second American Revolution.”

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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/heritage-foundation-american-revolution-threat-bloodless-left-rcna160188

In time, however, as Republican politics grew more radical, the Heritage Foundation shifted, too. In 2013, then-Sen. Orrin Hatch told MSNBC, “Heritage used to be the conservative organization helping Republicans and helping conservatives and helping us to be able to have the best intellectual conservative ideas. There’s a real question in the minds of many Republicans right now, and I’m not just speaking for myself: Is Heritage going to go so political that it really doesn’t amount to anything anymore?”

Eleven years later, the idea that the Heritage Foundation is producing “the best intellectual conservative ideas” is plainly laughable, as its president reminded the public again yesterday. HuffPost noted:

The head of an organization behind an influential policy document expected to guide a potential second Donald Trump administration declared that there’s a revolution taking place right now. And he appeared to deliver an ominous warning to “the radical left” as he spoke.

“We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless ― if the left allows it to be,” Kevin Roberts, president of the right-wing Heritage Foundation, said on a conservative media outlet called Real America’s Voice.

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.......And while those concerns are warranted, they’re made worse by the broader significance of Heritage’s ongoing political efforts.

Who’s responsible for the radical Project 2025 agenda? The Heritage Foundation.

Who’s “pre-screening the ideologies” of thousands of people in the hopes of installing “a pre-vetted, pro-Trump army of up to 54,000 loyalists” across the federal government? The Heritage Foundation.

Who’s funding an apparent blacklist of federal government workers who might stand in the way of a MAGA agenda? The Heritage Foundation.

Who put up billboards in Alabama in support of Republican Sen. Tommy Tuberville while he undermined his own country’s military? The Heritage Foundation.

Which group’s former staffers have complained about their former employers prioritizing political messaging over policy formation? The Heritage Foundation.

Whose president might be in contention for White House chief of staff in a second Trump term? The Heritage Foundation.

It was against this backdrop that Heritage’s chief told a national television audience, “We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless ― if the left allows it to be,” which was every bit as unsettling as it seemed.

The Heritage Foundation is now a right wing nut job organization that is not recognizable from the organization that Orin Hatch knew.