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DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 10:47 AM Jul 2024

NYT- Biden Told Ally That He Is Weighing Whether to Continue in the Race

President Biden has told a key ally that he knows he may not be able to salvage his candidacy if he cannot convince the public in the coming days that he is up for the job after a disastrous debate performance last week.

The president, who the ally emphasized is still deeply in the fight for re-election, understands that his next few appearances heading into the holiday weekend — including an interview scheduled for Friday with George Stephanopoulos of ABC News and campaign stops in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — must go well.

“He knows if he has two more events like that, we’re in a different place” by the end of the weekend, said the ally, referring to Mr. Biden’s halting and unfocused performance in the debate. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive situation.

The conversation is the first indication to become public that the president is seriously considering whether he can recover after a devastating performance on the debate stage in Atlanta on Thursday. Concerns are mounting about his viability as a candidate and whether he could serve as president for another four years.


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/03/us/politics/biden-election-debate.html

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NYT- Biden Told Ally That He Is Weighing Whether to Continue in the Race (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2024 OP
I trust President Biden's discretion on this. bearsfootball516 Jul 2024 #1
Yes and I trust Pelosi, Schumer, Raskin, Obama for any input they may have. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #4
It is absolutely a decision he must make on his own Mountainguy Jul 2024 #18
Joe Biden is the consummate team player and coalition builder. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #23
And he may decide to seek advice Mountainguy Jul 2024 #30
Yes whatever is decided, I am onboard. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #31
This is a fluid situation right now. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #2
And this "ally"? 2naSalit Jul 2024 #7
Raskin said the same thing the other day. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #11
Wondering the same thing Eliot Rosewater Jul 2024 #27
She's the only one authorized to get the money. jimfields33 Jul 2024 #35
Did the KGB in OHIO aka GOP allow Joe to be on the ballot? Eliot Rosewater Jul 2024 #50
Yes. But the other 50 might not be so charitable. jimfields33 Jul 2024 #59
NYT is highly suspicious to me. MontanaMama Jul 2024 #51
They lost me a long time ago. 2naSalit Jul 2024 #56
If Dems stop this BS MontanaMama Jul 2024 #57
Amen! 2naSalit Jul 2024 #58
Cowardly "ally". Show your face. Sick to death of these backstage shenanigans. Boomerproud Jul 2024 #3
No. It's not cowardly. It's better that we don't know and it's clear that serious discussions are happening themaguffin Jul 2024 #8
Exactly. There is obviously a great deal going on behind the scenes right now. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #24
That's an argument to show their face -- not hide it. W_HAMILTON Jul 2024 #28
It's irrelevant to us - things always happen this way. It's the wrong thing for US to focus on. themaguffin Jul 2024 #29
This person is acting more as an emissary, not a turncoat. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2024 #12
Who was the key ally Joe talked to? pwb Jul 2024 #5
This ally have a name? 2naSalit Jul 2024 #6
It sounds like Bamala Marris Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #42
Names or GTFO dweller Jul 2024 #9
Oh, goody. Another NYT article pushing shit from an anonymous "Biden ally." GoCubsGo Jul 2024 #10
In this case I actually believe President Biden gave the OK to this person to talk to the press. Reason why is because JohnSJ Jul 2024 #34
Do people really think this person is speaking out without the knowledge of the White House? WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2024 #13
Yes dweller Jul 2024 #14
Him saying that doesn't preclude the White House from not knowing. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2024 #17
He's a deputy press secretary dweller Jul 2024 #19
As I say... WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2024 #22
I don't. I am pretty sure President Biden authorized this. The reason being that if President Biden decides to step JohnSJ Jul 2024 #37
Ding ding ding Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #44
Of course not Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #43
NYT is salivating. shrike3 Jul 2024 #15
Not surprised we are hearing this. Joe knows the situation better than anyone. honest.abe Jul 2024 #16
A lot of folks are in denial that this could happen. BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #20
White House deputy press secretary denies NYT report ARandomPerson Jul 2024 #21
Then they better come out stronger than just a tweet and assume that does it. JohnSJ Jul 2024 #38
The Times didnt pull the story however they did add "the White House denies it". honest.abe Jul 2024 #39
So Biden has a "key ally" who leak to the NY?😂😂😂 Phoenix61 Jul 2024 #25
Correction. tazkcmo Jul 2024 #26
The only thing I would change is the headline. The press has been working since Biden became President to dismantle the JohnSJ Jul 2024 #32
Whatever happens, please DO NOT give MAGA or Fox any fuel for their fire. Initech Jul 2024 #33
I'm afraid there's no way to avoid that FBaggins Jul 2024 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author anobserver2 Jul 2024 #36
Trial baloon. Prairie_Seagull Jul 2024 #40
The story still smells like fucking horseshit. Fuck this tabloid turd journalism sideways. Piss on that turd. SoFlaBro Jul 2024 #41
I do not believe the NYT/CNN stories about President Biden dropping out LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #45
First of all, I don't believe it. tavernier Jul 2024 #46
I have my reservation about how correct that is what President Biden said. republianmushroom Jul 2024 #47
Hearsay. Not credible. no_hypocrisy Jul 2024 #48
Indeed. MontanaMama Jul 2024 #52
... struggle4progress Jul 2024 #49
I am standing with Biden LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #53
Bullshit wryter2000 Jul 2024 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Idaho Jul 2024 #60

bearsfootball516

(6,713 posts)
1. I trust President Biden's discretion on this.
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 10:50 AM
Jul 2024

If he believes he's up for the task and can win, I'm behind him. And if he decides that our best chance to beat Trump and save America is for him to drop and we rally behind Kamala, I'm all for it.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
4. Yes and I trust Pelosi, Schumer, Raskin, Obama for any input they may have.
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 10:53 AM
Jul 2024

This is not a decision Biden should make on his own.

This must be a team decision.

Then once it is made, we all damn well get onboard.
Whatever the decision is.

 

Mountainguy

(2,145 posts)
18. It is absolutely a decision he must make on his own
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 11:57 AM
Jul 2024

And everyone needs to get in line with what he decides.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
23. Joe Biden is the consummate team player and coalition builder.
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 12:04 PM
Jul 2024

He always consults other people for major decisions in his life.

He has worked with other Dem leaders for decades.
Admires and respects Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, Clinton.

High probability he will talk with all of them.

 

Mountainguy

(2,145 posts)
30. And he may decide to seek advice
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 12:13 PM
Jul 2024

But he is the rightful nominee and incumbent President. It's his decision to make and we all have to be ready to get behind whatever that is.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
31. Yes whatever is decided, I am onboard.
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 12:14 PM
Jul 2024

All I want to do is defeat the PutinGOP and Trump.

I have no agenda how we do it.

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
7. And this "ally"?
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 11:01 AM
Jul 2024

I think this is a disinformation piece and I am going to be accusing a number of articles as such in the next four months.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
11. Raskin said the same thing the other day.
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 11:10 AM
Jul 2024

Biden is making decisions.

We have to stay calm and let this play out.

We don't know what is going on behind the scenes.

I love Joe but I will accept whatever he and our leadership decide.

The mission of preserving our democracy is #1.
I have no agenda how we do it.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,285 posts)
27. Wondering the same thing
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 12:09 PM
Jul 2024

I still confused about what happens to all the money if he drops out and Kamala becomes the candidate. Does she get all the money that his campaign has now but she’s the only one that could get it and she would be on the ballot all 50 states?

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
35. She's the only one authorized to get the money.
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 12:20 PM
Jul 2024

As far as getting her name on the ballot? 51 individual states will decide (DC). Many dates passed to get on the ballot remember Ohio? We’ll add 50 more states.

MontanaMama

(24,722 posts)
51. NYT is highly suspicious to me.
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 08:07 PM
Jul 2024

While I believe that lots of discussions and decisions are being made behind the scenes in the Biden WH…I don’t believe Jack about what the NYT has to say…their credibility is shot.

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
56. They lost me a long time ago.
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 09:08 PM
Jul 2024

The deluge of bs is flowing full scream ahead and I think people need to learn to surf that tide so we can turn it into a tsunami of blue victories.

If we lose in November, I am contemplating going on a permanent walk about until I drop dead. I have a possible five years left... shit, we all probably only have five years left since we've done nothing toward cleaning up our act and only gone in the wrong direction for too long.

I feel as unsafe as I did after 911.

MontanaMama

(24,722 posts)
57. If Dems stop this BS
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 09:41 PM
Jul 2024

of doing the bidding of the MSM, we will win handily.

I feel unsafe reading the lack of support for our president here on DU. I’m so with you on that sentiment.

Women aren’t going to forget the fall of Roe. The Debbie downers on this forum who are “just asking questions” are being ridiculous. Time to rally and time to f i g h t for our country and our basic human rights.

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
58. Amen!
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 10:00 PM
Jul 2024

I am disappointed at how quickly people turned on Joe after he was set up. People seem to not be able to tell when something is off with how things are being presented.

Blows me away.

He was our great hope on Wednesday last week, remember? Instead of looking for someone to blame, people need to see propaganda for what it is and that it comes in every form imaginable.

And then there's the astrological nightmare we have to endure until at least early to mid October. This is just the start of that bumpy ride. With Neptune involved, everybody's psyche is getting a workover and Saturn there to kick sand at us all while the cult seems to make gains. It's going to be like this for another week before the ship can right itself. If we stick with our original plan, we'll make it to an undeniable win.

I couldn't watch Alex Wagner tonight with the crowd of doomsayers she had on, jeeze.

The media is not our friend, at least not the ones we used to depend on.

themaguffin

(5,221 posts)
8. No. It's not cowardly. It's better that we don't know and it's clear that serious discussions are happening
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 11:02 AM
Jul 2024

and that's ok. We are serious. We are not a cult.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
24. Exactly. There is obviously a great deal going on behind the scenes right now.
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 12:06 PM
Jul 2024

Which is how it should be.

The stakes are too high not to be serious.

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
28. That's an argument to show their face -- not hide it.
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 12:11 PM
Jul 2024

We aren't a cult that is led by a wannabe strongman ready to flay anyone that steps out of line.

So, show your face.

PS - Per MSNBC, the Biden team disputed this report and said NYT gave them seven minutes to respond before publishing the story.

themaguffin

(5,221 posts)
29. It's irrelevant to us - things always happen this way. It's the wrong thing for US to focus on.
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 12:13 PM
Jul 2024

GoCubsGo

(34,914 posts)
10. Oh, goody. Another NYT article pushing shit from an anonymous "Biden ally."
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 11:07 AM
Jul 2024

Thanks for the "Trash this thread" option, Admins.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
34. In this case I actually believe President Biden gave the OK to this person to talk to the press. Reason why is because
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 12:19 PM
Jul 2024

he doesn't want to surprise anyone if he decides to step aside.

This is going to be tough for President Biden, and the Friday interview is received will be critical.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,955 posts)
17. Him saying that doesn't preclude the White House from not knowing.
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 11:55 AM
Jul 2024

If they truly didn't though, there's more of a mess behind the scenes than I thought.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
37. I don't. I am pretty sure President Biden authorized this. The reason being that if President Biden decides to step
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 12:25 PM
Jul 2024

down, he doesn't want it to be a shock to his supporters. Telling them that he is giving serious consideration for it is the way to do that.

If he does decide to step down, there is no doubt that VP Harris is involved in these discussions, along with the Democratic power brokers.

Prairie Gates

(8,156 posts)
43. Of course not
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 01:16 PM
Jul 2024

Because then they are absolutely done-zo in Dem politics forever. This was put out by the White House, through the ally, who knew they would then deny it. Jesus, it really is some people's first rodeo.

BannonsLiver

(20,595 posts)
20. A lot of folks are in denial that this could happen.
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 12:01 PM
Jul 2024

Odds still favor him staying but we’re going to have a mass freak out if he doesn’t. Some people seem unable to even contemplate the possibility without becoming sad or enraged.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
32. The only thing I would change is the headline. The press has been working since Biden became President to dismantle the
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 12:15 PM
Jul 2024

Biden presidency with the "Biden is too old", while ignoring crickets about his opponent.

I wonder if the press will start reporting about the trump Epstein encounters soon?

FBaggins

(28,706 posts)
54. I'm afraid there's no way to avoid that
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 08:14 PM
Jul 2024

It's either true (which seems unlikely) - or it's part of a concerted effort on the part of supposedly liberal media to force the president out of the race.

If the later (which, again, seems most likely) - then there's no way to deprive oxygen feeding Fox's fire. To them, the media IS the left and they don't have any need to plumb the depths of democratic-leaning message boards for signs of panic.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Prairie_Seagull

(4,689 posts)
40. Trial baloon.
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 01:07 PM
Jul 2024

To see where all our heads are at. Will he make his decision based on the outcome?

Unknown, but as I have said. I trust the man.

IMO

SoFlaBro

(3,790 posts)
41. The story still smells like fucking horseshit. Fuck this tabloid turd journalism sideways. Piss on that turd.
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 01:14 PM
Jul 2024

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,868 posts)
45. I do not believe the NYT/CNN stories about President Biden dropping out
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 01:20 PM
Jul 2024

The NYT and CNN are pushing false stories about President Biden dropping out






tavernier

(14,443 posts)
46. First of all, I don't believe it.
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 01:32 PM
Jul 2024

But if, by some chance it is true, and he decides not to run, does that mean that the nomination automatically goes to Kamala Harris? I hope that isn’t the case because she can’t win. Nothing against her, but there are other people in our party with a much greater chance to bring out voters. VP Harris has three strikes against her and anyone who refuses to see that is fooling themselves.
If Hillary couldn’t beat Trump, do you really think that misogynists AND racists will vote for Harris?

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