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(8,880 posts)It's the media megaphone on steroids trying to keep attention away from just how awful Trump is and how he supported trafficking young girls for the gratification of dirty rich men.
pdxflyboy
(933 posts)N/T
calimary
(90,039 posts)So sidling up to him is the next best thing.
mcar
(46,059 posts)Fullduplexxx
(8,626 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(16,411 posts)mcar
(46,059 posts)Lovie777
(22,985 posts)steadily attacking Pres Biden.
we can do it
(13,024 posts)OMGWTF
(5,131 posts)GreenWave
(12,641 posts)markpkessinger
(8,912 posts)tazkcmo
(7,419 posts)rubbersole
(11,223 posts)...turn out to be much more fucking evil than originally reported. Document stealing/selling/sharing is the most treasonous thing to ever happen in America. One of hundreds of examples.
rampartc
(5,835 posts)this classified information business is just so blatantly treasonous.. everything about the appointment of cannon and the choice of venue seems designed to advertise that trump probably has more secrets for sale
OMGWTF
(5,131 posts)Watch this interview with Katie Johnson: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=katie+johnson+tv+interview&mid=B36BCEB81055717C6280B36BCEB81055717C6280&FORM=VIRE
I believe her.
Trueblue1968
(19,251 posts)I wish she would do an ..... E. JEAN CARROLL.
pandr32
(14,272 posts)yardwork
(69,364 posts)Trigger warning - don't read it if it will upset you.
Why isn't the NYT calling for Trump to quit the race?
FrenchCitizen
(95 posts)Media owners are probably like TFG. Thats why they give him a pass.
But Joe had a head cold and jet lag
..Oh noes!!!!!!!!
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)It wasn't pursued (at the time) for various reasons, as the link notes:
The bombshell claims never gained as much traction as other Trump misconduct allegations, for several reasons. Johnsons initial lawsuit, filed without an attorney, included a hinky phone number and unverifiable mailing address, and was swiftly dismissed in the Central District of California. Johnson abruptly withdrew her second lawsuit and canceled a press conference days before the election, citing fears for her safety.
The sum total was that the press didnt know what to make of Johnson or those surrounding her, and moved on to other controversies such as the Access Hollywood tape and the Stormy Daniels payoff.
Evolve Dammit
(21,777 posts)Farmer-Rick
(12,667 posts)That's weird. I read she never withdrew her second allegations. That she just failed to pursue them. That's different.
She probably didn't have the money to pursue charges because no district attorney seemed interested in prosecuting it.
Stupid press. Sounds like they couldn't care less. But let Biden talk in a hoarse voice and the press knows what to make of that.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,880 posts)Especially since media is working overtime to distract us with Biden having a less than stellar night on the TV.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)be focused on Biden.
Attilatheblond
(8,880 posts)Biden is an amazing man, but he can't do everything for you.
Adios
triron
(22,240 posts)emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)Silent Type
(12,412 posts)dont think trump supporters will care, other than they wish theyd been invited. Thats how sick they are and no chance of that changing before election.
MustLoveBeagles
(16,411 posts)happy feet
(1,279 posts)No one is trying to convert the MAGATs.
Ligyron
(8,006 posts)Of course we're not changing the votes of his cult with this stuff, it's the INDEPENDENTS we're after and I have to believe there are enough decent Americans who have no desire to see someone like this low like as the President of the United States of America yet again.
cynical_idealist
(543 posts)And privacy badger blocks it
liberal N proud
(61,194 posts)There is literally nothing that sick SOB could do that would change the minds of those sick cult members.
Different Drummer
(9,083 posts)Dlpger61
(81 posts)This is huge news and should not be allowed to go unnoticed. I watched the news this morning and not one outlet CBS/ABC/NBC said anything about the SC Decision.
markpkessinger
(8,912 posts). . . and admitted she had no proof that could substantiate the allegations she had made in her complaint. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, of course, but I think any reputable media outlet would be disinclined to continue reporting allegations made in a withdrawn complaint.
tazkcmo
(7,419 posts)Like NYT? Lol
Farmer-Rick
(12,667 posts)What she alleged is a crime. A DA needs to bring charges against
Trump and investgate the rape of a 12 year old. But no DA could be bothered. So, it was my understanding it wasn't withdrawn, she just failed to pursue it.
But if you have a document, not what some idiot journalist pushes, that indicates she actually took action to withdraw what she said, can you give a link?
markpkessinger
(8,912 posts). . . in case # 5:16-CV-00797 (Katie Johnson v. Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey Epstein).
She sued him for $100 million. The allegations may have constituted crimes, but Trump and Epstein were not criminally charged for them.
California dismissed her lawsuit, due in part to the fact that the couldn't verify her address. She then refiled in the Southern District of New York, but eventually withdrew that lawsuit as well (see https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-318d-d416-abfe-bbdf51aa0001 )
And look, I'm not saying her claims were untrue -- they may well have been. But no one can realistically expect a media outlet to report on unsubstantiated allegations from a civil lawsuit that was withdrawn by the plaintiff before it ever went to trial.
rubbersole
(11,223 posts)By 'reputable' media outlets.
Farmer-Rick
(12,667 posts)She took action to withdraw. So she really did back down. I wonder if it was due to a bribe or a threat?
hadEnuf
(3,616 posts)Then it would be breaking news on the half hour, every half hour.
Isn't that completely obvious by now?
Attilatheblond
(8,880 posts)Bayard
(29,707 posts)sop
(18,626 posts)This girl was 14-years-old when Trump sexually abused her. In Florida sexual battery offenses have no statute of limitations if the victim was younger than 16 years of age when the crime occurred. Trump's prosecution can be commenced at any time. Why is Trump not under arrest?
OMGWTF
(5,131 posts)wryter2000
(47,940 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)
Evolve Dammit
(21,777 posts)WarGamer
(18,613 posts)Had a press conference scheduled and was never seen from again.
NewsWeek calls the accusation claim FALSE on their fact check.
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-do-papers-allege-trump-epstein-took-part-sexual-assault-1857863
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)They can't declare the accusations in the 2016 complaint false.
WarGamer
(18,613 posts)the clipped image is from 2016 and apparently... the topic of the fact check.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)That claim is what Newsweek says is false. The 2016 complaint was withdrawn shortly after it was made. The rumor then and now is that "Katie Johnson" was intimidated into withdrawing the complaint.
It is false that the complaint is part of the unsealed Grand Jury documents.
Whether or not the complaint itself is false was never tried, since it was withdrawn.
Farmer-Rick
(12,667 posts)But pedophilia is a federal crime and a DA should have investigated and charged someone. They didn't.
But did she actually take action to withdraw her allegations or did she just give up pursuing it?
Evolve Dammit
(21,777 posts)perdita9
(1,352 posts)I wonder why
Bonx
(2,353 posts)Or just not true.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)usonian
(25,332 posts)Warpy
(114,616 posts)although they still throw their sons and daughters out onto the street if the sons come out or the daughter is pregnant.
You're not hearing about this stuff on major media because Republicans don't give a shit when their own do it.
Only Democrats have their careers ruined if they don't live up to the ideals the Republicans love to shame us over. Be grateful Biden is past most temptation in that department, although I can't see him diddling children at any point in his adult life.
There is a massive double stnadard out there and it is not in our favor.
TFG is corruption, itself, and they don't care, they will still maintain he was sent by Jebus.
And that tells us all we need to know about them.
HarryM
(464 posts)Doesn't want to get on the wrong side of the dictator, should he cheat and win. They are doing all they can to suck up to him, so that they can be part of his official propaganda network.
progressoid
(53,179 posts)Fifteen women have now gone on record to say that Donald Trump sexually assaulted them. Out of all of their stories, one is the most explosive and bizarre a woman who says Trump violently raped her at an orgy when she was just 13 years old. But the horrific details of her accusation have gotten the least attention.
It seemed like that was all going to change Wednesday, when the woman, who has gone by the pseudonyms Katie Johnson and Jane Doe, was set to appear at a press conference at the law offices of Lisa Bloom, a high-profile civil rights attorney and TV commentator. But the woman didnt come to the press conference. Bloom told a room full of waiting reporters that Johnson was afraid to show her face after receiving multiple death threats, and that they would have to reschedule.
Then on Friday, Bloom announced that Johnson had dropped her lawsuit:
Link to tweet
Its not uncommon for victims of sexual assault to want to preserve their anonymity, and dropping a lawsuit doesnt mean admitting that the case had no merit. Jill Harth, who sued Trump for sexual assault in 1997, still stands by her claims even though she dropped the lawsuit. And it would indeed have been an intense couple of days for Johnson Bloom said that her firms website was hacked, that Anonymous had claimed responsibility, and that death threats and a bomb threat came in afterwards.
It was the end of an incredibly strange case that featured an anonymous plaintiff who had refused almost all requests for interviews, two anonymous corroborating witnesses whom no one in the press had spoken to, and a couple of seriously shady characters with an anti-Trump agenda and a penchant for drama who had aggressively shopped the story around to media outlets for over a year.
more: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)proud patriot
(102,514 posts)2naSalit
(102,804 posts)It found its way beyond xitter.
angrychair
(12,285 posts)Until I read that I honestly didn't think my opinion of him could be lower but here we are.
How did this not come out in the 2020 election and why isn't it being talked about now?!?
This is why I rage at the news media. They are literally protecting trump.
DallasNE
(8,008 posts)sop
(18,626 posts)Just when you think you've reached the nadir of Trump's evil and depravity, it gets worse.
LeftInTX
(34,302 posts)It's a civil suit. Which she dropped a few days before the election.
The lawsuit accusing Trump of raping a 13-year-old girl, explained
The anonymous plaintiff dropped her lawsuit against Trump, the circumstances around which have been bizarre.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation
Link to tweet
Joinfortmill
(21,169 posts)DallasNE
(8,008 posts)Has anybody attempted to locate Katie Johnson? Did Johnson receive a financial settlement with an NDA preventing her from talking? Or was she threatened with a countersuit? I faintly recall this coming up in 2016 but not with this level of detail. Was this under oath? What is in the other 5 pages? Lots of questions.
Botany
(77,324 posts).... the case because of threats against her and
her family from the mob. Which mob I don't
know ... Italian or Russian or ???.
I think Gloria Alread was her attorney.
Bucky
(55,334 posts)DallasNE
(8,008 posts)Is the NDA your speculation? Perhaps it was filed too late? I just don't know.
Bucky
(55,334 posts)I'm sure you know how reliable human memory is, so that's my recall and not just speculation. I wouldn't bet the milk money on recall being 100%.
I'd definitely bet the milk money on my pure speculation that she's too scared to speak up now. Trump's learned a few things about leveraging mob threats of violence over the last 8 years.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)She filed the lawsuit Pro See (she was her own lawyer).
Hekate
(100,133 posts)questionseverything
(11,841 posts)spooky3
(38,634 posts)There were allegations that he pressured and intimidated the plaintiff(s) and they dropped the suit. Maybe someone else knows more about this and why he wasn't criminally charged.
CoopersDad
(3,332 posts)Posted above but needing more visibility:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.646485.1.0.pdf
...
DallasNE
(8,008 posts)Which means the woman was representing herself. Also, the case was filed in California and the defendants both lived in New York, which may or may not have created jurisdictional issues. Could it be that it was not accepted in California and she lacked the means to pursue it elsewhere? She was asking for a single lump sum settlement with 2 defendants which looks like a flaw to me, although I am not an attorney. While it makes for good reading for us junkies, it looks to lack much underpinning.
dlk
(13,248 posts)n/t
jalan48
(14,914 posts)we can do it
(13,024 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,880 posts)Many of those people should know better.
Texin
(2,851 posts)It clearly lays out the fact that TSF is/was a pedophile and felt not one ounce of contrition or guilt about using (apparently repeatedly) children as young (younger?) as twelve years old as sex punches and "performers" for his pleasure.
I absolutely fucking believe the lamestream media are engaged in an orchestrated effort to bury this by creating a shark feeding frenzy about Biden's age and his "feebleness" in order to achieve it.
flying_wahini
(8,275 posts)Not me. Joe is MY guy. ❤️
Rightstopper
(15 posts)Does not fit the narrative they created about the great New York business man they created for the Apprentice. They still believe their own BS sold to America the last two times he ran.
ecstatic
(35,075 posts)This is insane!
Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)trump to the wolves. NOW, Merrick comes out and says he's going after trump.
They will put Paul Ryan or Death Santan up at the Convention! Just my Opinion....both horrible enablers and koch heads.
Project 2025 jerks.
We need the Justices removed and the immunity ruling and Bush V Gore overturned before the election.
Wednesdays
(22,605 posts)Yeah, right. TSF OWNS the Republican Party. Period.
ffr
(23,399 posts)And they can see how much money they made during TSF's presidency, people were hooked watching 24/7.
Presidents that create jobs and actually do make America Great Again, don't engage viewers the same way for the media. Remember, once News became entertainment, it ceased to be anything but entertainment, ala Cable News.
colorado_ufo
(6,252 posts)Asking for a friend.
N/t
Dave Bowman
(7,167 posts)Diraven
(1,904 posts)But at least as legit as anything from Hunter's laptop.
Marthe48
(23,175 posts)or humans
czarjak
(13,639 posts)THAT mother-fucker can't be beat. 4GetAboutIt. Worser N Worser
RandomNumbers
(19,156 posts)by repeating nonsense.
PatrickforB
(15,426 posts)I looked for this all over in the NYT, but it is nowhere to be found. The only thing they are reporting on is the 'uncertainty' Democrats are facing (in disarray, let's not forget disarray) over Biden's age, blah, blah, blah.
I have decided I will be calling them up on Friday and cancelling my subscription. You know this is not even in the Guardian. The only ones reporting on it are PBS, which of course is why the GOP has been trying to defund them for years.
JayDem
(17 posts)...was this from the Epstein released materials? If so it should be on the front page of all newspapers/websites/social media/TV channels, etc.
CaptainTruth
(8,202 posts)The rape charges against him, filed in a Texas court, while he was POTUS?
Don't use Google or any other search engine, tell me if you know about it & have known about it since it happened?
I have copies of all the court filings, every filing that went on the docket because those were public record. After Bush was ordered to appear in court twice & he didn't... then the case just disappeared.
Why? See the 1973 OLC opinion & the 2000 OLC reaffirming opinion, which said "POTUS cannot be prosecuted," period, ie they gave POTUS immunity for anything & everything, including rape, 50 years ago. The DOJ adopted that as policy & practice.
"Presidential Immunity" is not new. It's been in effect, in practice, for at least 50 years.
HandmaidsTaleUntold
(406 posts)If MSNBC and CNN are so liberal and in the tank against Biden why was this case not talked about every day like such a thing would be talked about on FOX if it were Biden. Lets just admit that the wealthy conservative owners of those networks wont allow it. But the journalists need to grow some courage and ignore them. This young lady had her life threatened so she wouldnt testify. And this story wouldve sunk Trump in 2016. Why didnt Hillary use it? Look what we ended up with. And now people like Hillary should be afraid for their lives. Evil is gaining power.
Wednesdays
(22,605 posts)Yes, but the editors/directors determine what ends up on the page or on the air. Their heads are on the chopping block if they displease their owners.
HandmaidsTaleUntold
(406 posts)Public hanging outweighs losing your job.
spanone
(141,628 posts)Bumbles
(439 posts)We have our own Caligula. Where is Cassius Chaerea?
3auld6phart
(1,683 posts)Read beyond a couple of sentences. Horrific behaviour. Who the Hellare the scum that that ran cover for that freak? Theyshoukd also be charged. Gawd help us all if that orange buffoon gets elected t a second term as President
Nimble_Idea
(2,849 posts)You know.....maga family values.
NowsTheTime
(1,314 posts)BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)CousinIT
(12,541 posts)Orrex
(67,112 posts)I've said many times, and I maintain that it's true, that KKKultists could catch Trump in the act of violently sodomizing their own children, and they'd still mortgage their homes to help fund his legal defense.
