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You're falling for it again (Original Post) orangecrush Jul 2024 OP
Exactly! sheshe2 Jul 2024 #1
No click required. usonian Jul 2024 #2
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #3
YUP! Media hype BULLSHIT! Deek1935 Jul 2024 #4
Wonder if these ratfuckers sit around laughing flamingdem Jul 2024 #5
Both of us orangecrush Jul 2024 #6
Just left a republican freinds house. He's not a Trumper, voted for Biden, but, yeah they do Cheezoholic Jul 2024 #10
I'm sure they are, listen to that leaked tape from Trump's golf course Walleye Jul 2024 #30
Hey, I've just seen that leaked video and it's horrible. ClearSky24 Jul 2024 #33
Hear hear! Walleye Jul 2024 #34
Kick TY Cha Jul 2024 #7
Most welcome orangecrush Jul 2024 #25
Aloha Cha Jul 2024 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Idaho Jul 2024 #8
And it's the SOS orangecrush Jul 2024 #26
Of course they are doing the SOS, it worked for them before, why wouldn't they? Walleye Jul 2024 #31
Thank you! It's the media who is going after the president, won't let it go Rhiannon12866 Jul 2024 #9
Do they not realize if Felon and his cronies win, they are done? They will shut them down except for maybe one they own Cheezoholic Jul 2024 #11
They have nothing if they don't have lies. StarryNite Jul 2024 #12
Yep. Same playbook over and over again. lotusblossom Jul 2024 #13
MSM either learned nothing or are complicit. BadgerMom Jul 2024 #14
The media is complicit - every major media house is owned by extremely rich people TBF Jul 2024 #15
Going with the latter orangecrush Jul 2024 #27
Earl G had an excellent post on this: LeftInTX Jul 2024 #29
Hear Hear, Ma'am The Magistrate Jul 2024 #36
They learned they can make money from chaos. EllieBC Jul 2024 #43
It's Everywhere. The start of the CBS news tonight... chouchou Jul 2024 #16
2016 all over again DEM1955 Jul 2024 #17
This is different. Nobody here was calling for or entertaining the idea ecstatic Jul 2024 #18
oh? Oh really? edisdead Jul 2024 #21
umm... ecstatic Jul 2024 #22
Give it a rest please - I was one of Bernie's biggest donators TBF Jul 2024 #35
egg-fucking-zactly edisdead Jul 2024 #19
KNR niyad Jul 2024 #20
Hillary lost Azathoth Jul 2024 #23
Bye orangecrush Jul 2024 #24
I don't think Biden expected to be Hillaried. He's a guy, people like him. But it happened. betsuni Jul 2024 #32
Let's face it Dem4life1234 Jul 2024 #37
The last and only time I fell for this bs was Jimmy Carter's reelection Marthe48 Jul 2024 #38
The problem is D_Master81 Jul 2024 #39
Correct. The debate performance was not doctored video. We all saw it live with our own eyes. This is very beaglelover Jul 2024 #42
The media needs Trump. EllieBC Jul 2024 #40
There is a pattern for the NYT LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #41
Now the denials that the Hillary Progressive dog Jul 2024 #44
Yup orangecrush Jul 2024 #45

flamingdem

(40,858 posts)
5. Wonder if these ratfuckers sit around laughing
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 08:25 PM
Jul 2024

at the way dems and pretend dems set their hair on fire.

Cheezoholic

(3,689 posts)
10. Just left a republican freinds house. He's not a Trumper, voted for Biden, but, yeah they do
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 10:14 PM
Jul 2024

And not just laughing, he's kinda pissed. He's as afraid of the RWNJ's as I am.

 

ClearSky24

(299 posts)
33. Hey, I've just seen that leaked video and it's horrible.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 06:07 AM
Jul 2024

It's pretty brutal. I don't like these sort of personalities.

They have no business running for the President of the United States.

Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Cheezoholic

(3,689 posts)
11. Do they not realize if Felon and his cronies win, they are done? They will shut them down except for maybe one they own
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 10:19 PM
Jul 2024

It's what Fascists do. All of it. Corporations. media State Govt. tax coffers. All of it they will declare martial law, take it and divvy it up amongst themselves. If they win, nothing can stop them short of blood.

Edit: My hairs not on fire I just checked lol. It's real.

TBF

(36,467 posts)
15. The media is complicit - every major media house is owned by extremely rich people
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 10:50 PM
Jul 2024

who only care about the tax breaks Trump is promising. They know if he really turns this country into ChristoFascistLand that it doesn't matter to them - they'll just move to their condo in Dubai.

Seriously - they don't care - and the talking heads working for them are given the scripts to read. They know what side their bread is buttered on.

LeftInTX

(34,183 posts)
29. Earl G had an excellent post on this:
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 05:33 AM
Jul 2024
You Know Why the Media Doesn't Tell Trump to Drop Out
Because every time the media has challenged Trump, the response from Republicans has been FUCK YOU, WE DON'T CARE.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19098952



This is so true.
Democrats talk to the media, but the media are vultures and will do anything for a story and Democrats are soft, so if a Democrat says, "Biden didn't do very well in the debate". It gets all blown out of proportion because Democrats "Say too much".

This isn't just the conservative media. It's left wing media, because they want their story at all costs.

Media isn't interested in democracy.

Most of them do not vote. Many of them aren't registered to vote.

That's because they sign neutrality clauses. Some who cover politics have never voted.

We had longtime local anchor who hosted Stacey Abrams. Stacey asked her if she voted and she said, "I have never voted". Stacey was shocked and tried to convince her to vote. She said, "I'll think about it". The anchor is 62 years old and is retiring this weekend. She was very interested in Stacey. She has always acted like she was very interested in politics. But when you don't vote, you don't have the same interest. The anchor still is not a registered voter.

_________

Democrats need to be firm with the media. Tell them "Thank you, good bye" if you don't have 100% nice things to say about your candidate.

This is how it goes:



"Are you supporting Biden?"
"Yeah, yeah"
"What did you think of his debate performance?"
"Well it wasn't very good"
"Do you support him withdrawing?"
"Well no"
"What would you do to help him"
"Well, were gonna have a meeting"
"OK"

Story:
Dems will have a meeting to discuss Biden's withdrawal.

How it should go:

"Are you supporting Biden?"
"Of course I am. Why on earth do you ask. He's our candidate and he's the best?"
"What did you thinking of his debate performance?"
"I would like to know what you thought of Trump's awful, horrific, lying, most bigoted debate performance in the history of debates. Now good bye"

Story:
There is no story, except Democrats are sticking with Biden

EllieBC

(3,639 posts)
43. They learned they can make money from chaos.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 01:09 PM
Jul 2024

That’s what they learned. WaPo and NYT had so many subs. CNN was experiencing huge viewership increases.

They want that back.

chouchou

(3,110 posts)
16. It's Everywhere. The start of the CBS news tonight...
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 10:53 PM
Jul 2024

"After the disastrous Biden debate..ect..."
I changed the channel before I felt like punching out the Lady who spewed that bullshit.
She also said "..and Donald Trump lied his ass off" (I'm kidding..but you knew that.) Grrrrrrr.

DEM1955

(96 posts)
17. 2016 all over again
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 10:59 PM
Jul 2024

We better come up with a plan and I think we will. Losing is not an option, this is life or death.

ecstatic

(35,056 posts)
18. This is different. Nobody here was calling for or entertaining the idea
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 11:26 PM
Jul 2024

of Hillary stepping aside.

Go back to the official debate threads from last week. You'll see real time reactions. It begins IMMEDIATELY, less than 15 minutes into the debate. Nobody here needs coaching or the media's input to have an opinion. Also, this is not just about the debate or even Biden. It's about winning in November.

ecstatic

(35,056 posts)
22. umm...
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 11:50 PM
Jul 2024

I've never really been a bernie fan. I'm actually very practical, so if I have concerns, there's a problem.

TBF

(36,467 posts)
35. Give it a rest please - I was one of Bernie's biggest donators
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 10:41 AM
Jul 2024

and I'm here supporting Biden (and voted for him). I donate to both of them now. Bernie because I am always supportive of his work shepharding progressive policies, and Biden because he's the current candidate (I donated as recently as 6/30).

Splitting democrats does.not.help. - we need everyone welcomed & on board!

 

Azathoth

(4,677 posts)
23. Hillary lost
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:01 AM
Jul 2024

And not because anyone at DU "fell" for anything.

You seem to be forgetting that part.

betsuni

(29,017 posts)
32. I don't think Biden expected to be Hillaried. He's a guy, people like him. But it happened.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 05:55 AM
Jul 2024

It will happen to any Democrat.

Dem4life1234

(2,533 posts)
37. Let's face it
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 11:07 AM
Jul 2024

Hilary lost because people thought she had it in the bag, nobody could believe she would lose against the orange buffoon.

Marthe48

(23,078 posts)
38. The last and only time I fell for this bs was Jimmy Carter's reelection
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 11:30 AM
Jul 2024

Yes, that's how long rwnj have lied and cheated to get their candidate into the Oval Office

Anyway we can, from billboards to plane banners to placards at public venues, call out traitor. Felon 34 already owns dishonor. Instead of wondering what illegal, immoral acts criminal traitor 34 hasn't done, list the criminal and immoral acts he has done:
treason
rape
slander
theft
adultery
lying

We don't have a voice in the media. It is owned by corporations who want to own everything, including the human race. There is no liberal media. When the talking heads on any network drag out the horse manure about Dem candidates, pretending that they are wringing their hands over it, they are giving it air and life. If they spent a hour each day on 1 criminal thing traitor did, they would have material every day they are on till Nov. 3rd and then on Nov. 4 & 5 do a recap all day long, not of a single debate, but a lifetime of corruption, a lifetime traitor has squandered by being a poster boy for the worst of human excesses, some that are unique to His Excrement. Really, who uses bodily functions as a weapon? To the talking heads: This year, ignore the conventional avoidance of covering politics on election day. Be Americans and stand the hell up for your country. If you don't, you won't be talking heads, you'll be rolling heads. Because you are in heritage foundation's and traitor's sights.

D_Master81

(2,519 posts)
39. The problem is
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 11:31 AM
Jul 2024

The problem is there was a meme out there that had been pushed for years by the RW that Biden was too old and not up for the job. Then on national tv it played out looking like they may be right. The right tried to push that with Hillary but she never had a moment on tv where it looked like she might not be able to do it.

beaglelover

(4,464 posts)
42. Correct. The debate performance was not doctored video. We all saw it live with our own eyes. This is very
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:47 PM
Jul 2024

different than when Hillary was running.

EllieBC

(3,639 posts)
40. The media needs Trump.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 11:36 AM
Jul 2024

They never had more subscriptions and viewers than when Trump was in office. They need that back.

Don’t think for a minute they care about who is hurt in the process.

And yes they are dumb enough to think they won’t be affected.

Progressive dog

(7,598 posts)
44. Now the denials that the Hillary
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 05:15 PM
Jul 2024

illness scam ever had traction are being used by those who want Biden out (or to prove to their satisfaction he's really OK). I think some of it is well past just "falling for it", more like helping with it.

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