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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat new documents claim about Trump-Epstein
Not sure all of this is really new? But it seems the circumstantial evidence here should have some implications for TSF, given the 18 or 20 other separate individuals that have accused him of sexual misconduct and/or rape.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/before-marrying-melania-in-2005-what-new-documents-claim-about-trump-epstein/articleshow/111465121.cms
(snip)
"Trumps name appears over and over again on Jeffrey Epstein message logs in the grand jury docs released this week. It is also undisputed: Trumps name appears 7 times on Epsteins private jet flight logs, that Epstein flew on Trumps jet with a young girl of indeterminate age, girls who Epstein trafficked worked at Mar-A-Lago, a girl Epstein trafficked mentioned visiting Trumps casino in a recently released deposition transcript.
And another thing - any time the MAGAts try to distance Trump from Epstein - or claim some Dem was an Epstein buddy - just show them the video about halfway down the page, here:
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/politics/what-do-jeffrey-epstein-s-documents-reveal-about-donald-trump/ar-BB1pkR1n
rainy
(6,311 posts)RandomNumbers
(19,035 posts)RainCaster
(13,347 posts)You won't find one of those in the US.
live love laugh
(16,128 posts)jmowreader
(52,833 posts)If my newspaper were to put "Trump is a chomo!" on page 1, we'd have to hire an infantry battalion to guard our two buildings.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)IbogaProject
(5,505 posts)They need more tax cuts as the previous ones didn't work, they never do. Now if we put even more money in everybody's pockets then things would grow and the filthy rich could still make their bucks but they have a closed minded view of economics and see it as a game of Hungry Hungry Hippo where they have to grab everything.
Volaris
(11,301 posts)RockRaven
(18,552 posts)disgusting shit instead of their "old Biden drop out" blather.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)Willing to sell themselves cheaply for clicks.
live love laugh
(16,128 posts)orange jar
(878 posts)Along with the Times of India
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/was-donald-trump-a-regular-client-of-jeffrey-epstein-s-massage-services-new-memo-goes-viral-101719981884931-amp.html
https://en.as.com/latest_news/what-do-jeffrey-epsteins-documents-reveal-about-donald-trump-n/?outputType=amp
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2476325/trump-epstein-connection-casts-shadow-over-election-campaign?amp=1
Excellent work from our own news agencies.
RandomNumbers
(19,035 posts)Hmm ....
AllaN01Bear
(28,280 posts)news than listening to our so called news . besides , it was fun.
LeftInTX
(34,008 posts)Same with Pakistan's.
They're also saying, "Does Biden have Alzheimer's or Dementia?"
"Will Biden be impeached"...On their YouTube channel they're showing "Biden's impeachment live" right now.

This isn't exactly investigative journalism going on over there. It's gossip. They literally have "Joe's impeachment " on an infinite loop, making it appear "live". Now if you want journalism in the US to go that route, let the NYT know that you want their YouTube channel to play Joe Biden's impeachment inquiry on an infinite loop and call it "live".
Times Now is owned by the Times of India.
republianmushroom
(22,122 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(21,778 posts)The American media is ignoring this story.
RandomNumbers
(19,035 posts)At first I was wary, and still am somewhat - but overall their reporting seems to be reasonably accurate.
Fiendish Thingy
(21,778 posts)My point was, you couldnt find an American MSM source for the story, because they arent covering it.
RandomNumbers
(19,035 posts)I guess I was just saying that there is A LOT of stuff that isn't well covered (if at all) in the US media, but sometimes foreign sources like this one do cover it at least a little.
NJCher
(42,190 posts)And found that Newsweek, cbs, msn, and ny magazine have all done stories that contain most of what the times of India story has.
Yes I read all the stories. The times of India story might have one extra piece of information but it wasnt all that important.
Washington post had the announcement story about the judge.
Anybody can check out the info in this post. Go ahead; do it.
P.s. my lack of proper capitalization is due to the fact that Im on my iPad . I get lazy in this device.
LeftInTX
(34,008 posts)
All of the India media is like this. Times of India is the least tabloidish of all the Indian media. You go to their sites and you see a bunch of celebrity news on the front page. I think there is a govt run media company in India. However, they mostly produce abstinence videos. In India, reporters "camp" on the streets in front of celebrities homes, just waiting for them to come outside. They also stalk celebrities.
Note the Jeffery Epstein article has this poll right in the middle of the article:

Also, there are alot of US citizens (NRIs) who read and watch Indian media. Hence they cover alot of our stuff. India's media is very "celebrity and gossip" focused. It's like the UK media without the BBC and the London Times. So, it's more like the Daily Mail than anything.
If the MSM finds the Trump/Epstein connection to be worthwhile, they will like it run it. They are discussing Epstein in depth. There is a parallel thing going on, where the an old lawsuit against Trump is being recirculated with the Epstein Papers on social media. People are thinking the lawsuit is "new info", but it came out in 2016. They are also believing a civil suit filed against Trump by "Katie Johnson" is the Grand Jury's case.
azureblue
(2,637 posts)Last edited Thu Jul 4, 2024, 11:22 AM - Edit history (1)
There it is, in black and white, and in publicly released sworn testimony -- Case 5:16-cv-00797-DMG-KS (Search / downloadable as pdf) that Trump is a pedo rapist. Anyone else would be under the jail by now, with the media screaming headlines.. - see page 3..
Here is part of her testimony, and please spread this far and wide, especially to MAGATs defending Trump
11. On the third occasion involving the Defendant, Donald J. Trump, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson. was forced to engage in an unnatural lesbian sex act with her fellow minor and sex slave, Maria Doe age 12, for the sexual enjoyment of Defendant Trump. After this sex act, both minors were forced to orally copulate Defendant Trump by placing their mouths simultaneously on his erect penis until he achieved sexual orgasm. After zipping up his pants, Defendant Trump physically pushed both minors away while angrily berating them for the "poor" quality of their sexual performance.
12. On the fourth and final sexual encounter with the Defendant, Donald J. Trump, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was tied to a bed by Defendant Trump who then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff Johnson. During the course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff Johnson loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to "please wear a condom". Defendant Trump responded by violently striking Plaintiff Johnson in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted as he refused to wear protection. After achieving sexual orgasm, the Defendant, Donald J.
Trump put his suit back on and when the Plaintifif Katie Johnson, in tears asked Defendant Trump what would happen if he had impregnated her, Defendant Trump grabbed his wallet and threw some money at her and screamed that she should use the money "to get a fucking abortion".
usonian
(22,932 posts)the tweet
(I took a screenshot because links were behaving badly)

Document:
https://ia801203.us.archive.org/26/items/gov.uscourts.cacd.646485/gov.uscourts.cacd.646485.1.0.pdf
RandomNumbers
(19,035 posts)Thank you for posting the link.
How come we aren't seeing this brought up about Trump, EVERY DAY?
usonian
(22,932 posts)I don't know about the legal workings, nor the undoubted threats and bribes, and maybe murders involved in covering everything up.
So far, much of the real true dirt has come from civil suits, hearings, and endless (on purpose) pre-trial charges, motions and rebuttal after rebuttal.
I hope that all the facts come out, however they can.
The REAL conspiracies are the ones they try to hide, not the ones amplified on the internet megaphone.
LeftInTX
(34,008 posts)This was covered by the MSM in 2016. It then turned into a no-show press conference on Nov 2, 2016. Her attorney said that her client was having death threats by Trump. The media chose not to cover it further because there was nothing further to cover and no corroboration. The lawsuit was dropped, so there is no further information. This was Nov 2016. I don't believe the media ever investigated the death threats. Also, her attorney never filed a complaint about the death threats nor was law enforcement contacted.
Trump threatening to kill someone was covered by the media a few days before the 2016 election. However, it was never investigated because the person dropped the lawsuit and could not be located.
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)if she is hopefully still alive...
(her attorneys from this withdrawn case cannot locate her now, and her old phone number is disconnected)
mwb970
(12,035 posts)DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)Aussie105
(7,496 posts)Devouring, destroying. Deriving pleasure from the destruction.
Epstein stuck to fresh meat, Trump did too, initially, but moved on to bigger things.
Let Trump get elected, and watch him try to devour the whole country.
Those who enable and vote for Trump secretly think . . . I'd do that too, if I thought I could get away with it!
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,488 posts)TommyT139
(2,118 posts)"The screenshots were sealed in 2008 as part of Alexander Acosta's deal for Jeffrey Epstein and were released on July 1."
This is the same Alexander Acosta who was brought to Washington as Trump's Secretary of Labor. And then when more Epstein chatter started to trend in the news, bringing attention to Trump's close connections with Epstein, Acosta resigned.
Acosta appeared alongside Trump at the White House to make the announcement that he was stepping down. I just want to let you know, this was him, not me, because I am with him, Trump said. Hes a tremendous talent. Hes a Hispanic man. He went to Harvard, a great student. And in so many ways I just hate what he is saying now, because we are going to miss him.
From The New Yorker, July 12, 2019[https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/alex-acosta-had-to-resign-but-the-epstein-scandal-goes-well-beyond-his-role]
Linda ladeewolf
(1,047 posts)I live in Missouri, too many Magats here, I am so tempted to print off a few copies of these papers and leave them in places where they will be found and read by the magats. Wonder if it would do any good?