We have just witnessed a muti-faceted propaganda campaign

[Grolph_]

The audio levels were never normalized.
The NYT editorials were ready to go.
The FOX spots flooded the airwaves.
The foreign bots were booted.
The dormant accounts were activated.
The righteous indignation was turned up to eleven.
("How dare you call me a troll", said every troll ever.)

All of this was done in support of tax cuts for the wealthy.
Nothing else matters to the masters of the universe, they want their tax cuts and they will support a rapist to get them.
If he gets back in office they will likely be supporting a rapist and a murderer until it is their turn to have their assets stripped and their children raped. Yes, he rapes little boys too. (allegedly, I believe it)

The media is owned by wealthy, they use their bullhorn to their advantage.
All this noise is designed to distract us from the ugliness that is Trump.

Trump lost the debate, why isn't there more disgust for his racism. ( Black job anyone? I think I have one.)
The Epstein transcripts have been released. Oh dear, these are too tawdry to talk about within the polite newspace.
Where are the rest of our classified documents? His behavior is treasonous.

Next year at this time, unless there are two very specific deaths, our president will be either Joe Biden or Donald Trump.
That is what our current electoral process will support. If one of these two is not in the race the other will win the electoral college.
I want it to be Joe Biden, if you are on this board, you should too.

Joe Biden is a decent man and a successful president, you cannot truthfully say that about Trump.

[FalloutShelter]

1. X1000

Joe Biden is a great President and a superior human being.

TSF is. RAPIST TRAITOR. And I would add psychopath.

I saw a meme yesterday… can’t find it now.
Joe as Uncle Sam extending his hand and the text says “ Come with me if you want to live.”
That says it all.

What really destroys me is that so many people in this country are so dead inside that they will vote for the rapist traitor.

[orleans]

48. meme...

[FalloutShelter]

50. Thanks Orleans! That's the one.

[mopinko]

2. it's not the tax cuts. it's the gutting of regs.

just like bannon says- they’re dismantling the administrative state.

[Bettie]

3. I'd agree that is also

a major part of it.

[Think. Again.]

5. Yes! That! AND the tax cuts!

[Grolph_]

6. Gutting the regs increases future margins

It is cheaper to pollute than to not pollute. (Simple example)

So yeah, I agree, they are taking more of the money for themselves.
That leaves less for the rest of us and it means that the general populace gets to pay for the cleanup later.

[rubbersole]

13. Or live (or die) with the consequences because it can't be cleaned up.

The coming catastrophe our planet is going to experience won't be able to be ignored. That seems to be the force driving the greed grab now. Get it while you can and get to your private enclave in New Zealand. Let the riff-raff struggle for survival in the uninhabitable arid "farm belt".

[LiberalLoner]

26. THIS! Yes, the culling of the herd has begun.

[BadgerKid]

39. So weird...

I was having survivalist dreams last night. I wonder how many years of supplies….

[LiberalLoner]

90. Five years might be a good starting point. And a system for decontaminating water.

[valleyrogue]

24. It's greed by the very rich. n/t

[TBF]

43. The tax cuts are critical to billionaires, and the gutting of regs will

help them make even more money. This all benefits the few at the top.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

80. The Subversive Court is doing a bang-up job of gutting regs and crippling the Executive branch.

Still, the oligarchs and the christofascists want *all* of government under their control, at every level.

[soldierant]

85. It's a different part of the same thing.

They want to keep and increase their own wealth, and do not give a flying continental who gets hurt. Tax cuts, deregulation, it all adds in.

[wnylib]

86. This afternoon the NPR program, On Point,

hosted by Mehgna Chakrabarti, devoted its show to promoting deregulations.

I turned to a different, usually left leaning local radio station and heard a local commentator saying what a bad president Biden has been and that his debate was just an example of his inability to govern. I turned off the radio and started watching a movie.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

92. Motherfucking NPR

I regret giving them $$ in the past

[wnylib]

93. I stopped giving to them years ago but keep getting

solicitation letters from them. I keep thinking that I will answer those letters with my reasons why I will no longer donate, but haven't done it yet. I just toss out the letters.

[WA-03 Democrat]

4. Agree on the mic levels

The audio was filtered and a lower gain.

Drop Out Don!

[Grolph_]

9. I hope whoever was at the board got a piece of the action

I was listening; my first thought was, "Good lord, pot him up!"

(For those who have never lubed a potentiometer.. "Potting someone up" means, Turning their specific channel in the mixer to a higher level. I do not wish to be accused of giving cannabis to our commander in chief.)

[Farmer-Rick]

15. Yeah, I noticed that he was very hard to hear

I have slight hearing loss from being in the Navy. And I usually up the volume to compensate.

But listening to Biden's parts, I would have to put on the closed caption. I thought it was just me.

[LeftInTX]

34. His voice is naturally soft or he's trying to avoid laryngitis

This has been going on for awhile. His mic needs better adjustments. And he probably needs to see a speech therapist. He's not speaking from the diaphragm. Maybe he is trying to avoid laryngitis, but he's making the problem worse by using his upper airway instead of his diaphragm. Also by speaking with his upper airway, his speech is a bit slurred and too fast. Unless, he's had other issues affecting his diaphragm (like broken ribs or heart surgery, which he hasn't) it's an easy fix.

[WA-03 Democrat]

57. With you

And agree on his natural voice is soft. The man does have a speech voice and it did not show up that evening. The speech he gave after the debate voice was fine. 30mins after that farce he sounded normal. The audio signal was filtered to make it sound thin and lite. The input volume was lower than the other 3 mics. Been in audio for 50 years and knew something was foul when the first words came out. His speech in NC he had great voice fire.
Go Joe Go!!!!!

[LeftInTX]

58. This has happened in numerous WH press conferences.

His team should have assured that his mic was adjusted for his voice.

I was concerned that his mic would be too soft after seeing a WH press conference where I couldn't hear him. I figured the debate team would get it fixed for him, but they didn't. Total oversight on their part.

[WA-03 Democrat]

59. Had not seen it before

But yes there are easy ways to mitigate it and a shame it wasn’t.

[Disaffected]

62. "The audio signal was filtered ...."

Evidence of or simply speculation?

"The input volume was lower......"

Same question.

Maybe his was simply speaking in a lower volume than Trump and the moderators?

[WA-03 Democrat]

68. Sure - I am an audio engineer

I had to do the “sound checks” pre-digital so it’s my professional opinion and I don’t need a spectrum audio analysis to hear what is wrong.
You are right it can be easy to quantify and you would not need to take my word for it. Get a recording of the debate run an audio analysis on it you just need the beginning because every mic sampled in the first 10mins. Split the audio from the video into any high res file audio file format (WAV or AIFF). I would use Logic Pro with the Waves/UA/Eventide vocal plugs but there are many ways to do the comparison and find the contrast. Digital audio is awesome and provides great data but this is basic and obvious.

[Disaffected]

70. "...basic and obvious"?

Sure, maybe to you and other audio techs but not to me or, I expect, most others on this forum. "....do the comparison and find the contrast"? I would suggest that, much more realistically, you do that and present the results in a form suitable for someone who is reasonably "tech literate" but not an audio expert. IOWs, how do you distinguish from legitimate muted voice volume and frequency distribution and that added by manipulation of the signal?

Otherwise we are left with speculation and conspiracy theory stuff. Has anyone else (with audio expertise) made a similar claim?

IMO the claim that CNN would resort to such chicanery requires a lot more evidence than we have had presented to us here so far.

[Grolph_]

71. The point of all the fancy audio equipment in the studio is to control the levels

The point of an engineer at the board is to make adjustments as needed.
I did not hear any adjustments.

[Mister Ed]

29. I would add that the cameras favored Trump.

Mrs. Ed and I both noticed that Trump's camera was closer, making him fill more of the frame in the split-screen that ran most of the time. He seemed to loom larger than Biden, who by comparison looked small and diminished.

Whether part of a conspiracy or merely due to chance, this contributed to the negative public perception of Biden during the debate.

[MontanaMama]

54. Indeed they did! n/t

[sop]

63. Corporate media producers and stage technicians are masters at creating visual impressions.

Wouldn't be surprised if they used one of those special Kari Lake lenses on Trump's close-ups.

[yagotme]

67. Maybe it's just that Drumph "fills more of the frame."

[Think. Again.]

7. 🏆

("How dare you call me a troll", said every troll ever.) Fo' Sho!

[Progressive dog]

8. An ongoing campaign

We're not done witnessing it. At least a vast majority of elected Democrats and democratic institutions know that what they're trying to sell is crap.
To make myself clear, IMO anyone who really believes that it's okay to help Trump by tearing down Biden should rein themselves in. Biden is our nominee. It is much too late to change after the voters have chosen.
. If Biden loses, it will be the end of the USA as a beacon to the free world and probably the end of the free world itself.

[Hugin]

10. Pretty much...

It’s an open secret, they hate other Americans more than anything else in the world.

[2naSalit]

11. K&R

[SARose]

12. Remember this?

Snip

"FBI Dir just informed me, 'The FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation.' Case reopened." Jason Chaffetz text

Snip

The Comey story wasn’t just about how Trump seized on it; it also was about how it was covered.

"Clinton Works to Keep Trump and Emails at Bay," said The New York Times

"Get ready for four more years of Clinton scandals," was the headline for conservative columnist Marc Thiessen in The Washington Post

Snip

More

Well my, my, my.

[Ligyron]

99. That "more" story is really something.

Something sad and sickening because up until that election, polls had always been quite accurate. It's the Electoral College and a mere 80,000 votes that screwed us and while 3 million more citizens voted for Hillary overall, in the end it mattered not.

[choie]

14. The problem is, the propaganda campaign is still going on.

n/t

[azureblue]

16. And the media still supports Trump

There it is, in black and white, and in publicly released sworn testimony -- Case 5:16-cv-00797-DMG-KS (downloadable) that Trump is a pedo rapist. Anyone else would be under the jail by now, with the media screaming headlines..

[hardluck]

19. It was a pro per complaint

There was no sworn testimony in that case. Just the complaint containing allegations.

[Farmer-Rick]

23. That nobody ever investigated

Because the victim did not pursue it, is very telling.

I was just surprised at how quickly the media, law enforcement and judiciary ignored and dropped any interest in the allegations. I mean if someone were murdered, would the victim have to pursue charges? If Biden had such allegations against him would the media ignore it?

[Joinfortmill]

17. Yes yes and yes!!! I am so PISSED!

[oldmanlynn]

18. Sounding like conspiracies. D Anon?

[Keepthesoulalive]

21. Michael Cohen

Told us what happened. It is not conspiracy .

[Farmer-Rick]

20. I found it interesting

To see the people who bought into this line of the propaganda campaign.

Real people I thought were smart enough to see past the manipulation, contradictions and spin were lapping it up like puppies at a water bowl.

It really opened my eyes to how easily people are conned.

So, my next question is why did some of us not get manipulated?

[sop]

22. It will be very useful to note which "news" sources and "journalists" were so eager to take part in this

well-orchestrated "Biden must step down now" propaganda campaign. There are several media sites I will never visit again, and a number of pundits who will never be taken seriously in the future. Some (like the ratfucking Huffington Post) will forever be remembered for their over-the-top anti-Biden vitriol.

[Farmer-Rick]

25. Exactly this

It was all spin and no facts, just what seems, what feels, what looks as if. And media outlets pandered and pushed it like it were the discovery of erectile medication.

[Captain Zero]

45. Newsweek owns Huffington Post?

I think.
Or they did at one point.

And Newsweek is a rag anyway.
Was slightly left of center 1960-75 or so.

[jmbar2]

27. Russian propaganda channels are all over this

Link to tweet

[leftgirl]

30. trump brags he got biden out of race ...typo above

[leftgirl]

28. our enemy is project 2025 and efforts to destroy our democracy - not JOE BIDEN

Trump brags he got Biden out of race
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/04/trump-golf-cart-video-biden-kamala-harris

and what are elite dems and punditry doing ....talking about Biden and whether he is fit ......unbelievable

Dems FIDDLE While THE CONSTITUTION burns!!

the enemy is not BIDEN........

an effort to get Biden out of the game at this late stage makes no sense unless....like the poster says....
it was all a coordinated effort.............

For DEMS.....JUST GET OVER IT....... rally around the president....it is the only chance we have....
He has done a spectacular job over last 3.5 yrs and suddenly he's the enemy? Really

I have one question for dems "HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MINDS"

focus your ire on the republican dismantling of our system ......

STAY THE COURSE JOE !!! .

[Captain Zero]

46. Homeland Security should deport

All known Russian Bots that aren't citizens.

Also deport the Russian Embassy and all known assets.

Break all internet connections of bots abroad.

They ARE interfering with the election.

[EverHopeful]

31. So our choice is between a decent, honorable, intelligent, and very effective president

working hard to preserve our republic and the habitability of our planet and who is, yeah, kinda' old, or a mentally ill mobbed-up authoritarian moron rapist traitor working to destroy our republic.

Reminds me of that joke about the flight attendant asking about your meal preference saying "Would you prefer the chicken or a steaming pile of sh*t" and you say, "Hmm, how is the chicken cooked?"

Plus, we're not just voting for the President, we're voting for his entire administration. Which candidate can you trust to choose intelligent, capable people who will strive for the best outcomes for actual people, not just "Corporate Persons?"

[True Blue American]

42. I am voting not just for the President, but the people they hire to run

The Government. We do not need flunkies or toadies.

[SocialDemocrat61]

32. And yet

there are still corporate media sycophants who will spend more time defending them than they ever have defending Biden and democrats.

[PatSeg]

33. The NYT was at it again this morning

They're not letting up. It does appear as if they were ready for such an "opportunity".

"Biden in crisis", "Who might replace Biden on the ticket?"

What the hell!?!?

[True Blue American]

40. People are even saying," oh, that is just the opinion pages, the Times has good articles.

The editors make those decisions. They gave the other side yesterday 7 minutes to respond before they printed another hate filled piece. Many I used to respect have lost that for me.

[PatSeg]

52. It sure does feel like they are doubling down

They seem to clearly have an agenda.

[AllaN01Bear]

35. dont foreget trump lied a gazillian times on the debate . joe has my back

[Beck23]

36. Distraction from the Epstein story?

I tend to think the media execs are trying to distract from the Epstein records, perhaps because some of execs are in the records.

[RandomNumbers]

69. That + distraction from the 100's of major reasons to not vote for Trump.

I am continually shocked that Trump can even be in this race.

Around 20 women accused him of rape or sexual conduct - including when they were minors.

He's been pronounced guilty of at least one rape. (sorry if my count is low, I do have trouble keeping up sometimes)

He literally STOLE classified documents and had them stored in a highly unsecure location.

He fomented an insurrection against the results of the 2020 election. (Anyone want to think about what would have happened if Gore had done similar in 2000? Or Kerry in 2004? Or Clinton in 2016?)

Every other word from his mouth is a lie.

He mocks people with disabilities, right there on stage in front of his fans, not even on a "hot mike" when he thinks no one can hear his shameful utterances.

He is a fucking lying narcissistic bully writ large, and the worst that could be said about the opposing candidate is that he is too old, or someone doesn't fully agree with his policies.

I am so sad for my country.

[Grolph_]

72. Nice aggregation of just a fraction of Trump's boorish behavior

Future topics should include the racism and homophobia Trump champions.
He and his ilk don't care if those with less power or money fail to continue living.

If you are not already at the table, it is too late.

[True Blue American]

37. Best post I have ever read

I actually told posters I have been on a board with for years what I thought of them for joining in the Joes gotta go hate filled lies.

Hate has taken over the whole country. No reason left

[Grolph_]

75. Hate is a learned behavior

The only thing that all of Trump's fans have in common is that they hate something or someone.

Funny thing, hate is a choice; that makes them all pro-choice.

Thank you for the compliment.

[AllyCat]

97. Yeah, there's a lot of them. Oddly,

They seem to exactly match my jury block list. Hmmm…

[onecaliberal]

38. Recommend.

[BootinUp]

41. K&R

[jalan48]

47. I think it's more than tax cuts for the wealthy.

It's the normalization and acceptance of a ruling class in the US where laws don't apply to them like everyone else.

[BumRushDaShow]

49. "All of this was done in support of tax cuts for the wealthy. " - Laid out over a dozen years ago (that I post often)

(from 2012)

[Beck23]

51. Or from a New York bankrupcy court

Seems like, instead of from the House or the Senate, they chose someone from a New York bankruptcy court.

[karin_sj]

53. On Threads, Democrats are overwhelmingly supporting Biden

I've been on Threads a lot lately (I quit the toxic X a long time ago) and I have to say that pretty much without exception, people are STILL supporting Joe Biden. And pundits, "so-called journalists," and other well-known spouters of opinions are being called out, chastised, and blocked for their anti-Biden rhetoric. People who I used to respect and follow are being challenged and blocked by many, many Democratic voters who aren't buying into this BS and are sick and tired of this narrative being pushed. People like David Corn, John Heillman, Claire McHaskell, Paul Krugman, Tim Miller, and on and on. Even Keith Olbermann, who was on the right side of this until the last couple of days, is pushing for Biden to leave the race, for pity's sake!

And CNN... My God! The few times I tuned in to see what they were saying, I kept seeing people trying to defend Joe to a commentator that looked blankly at them (Anderson Cooper) or glared at them with a openly contemptuous face (Alisyn Aamerota). I'm done with them.

The good news is that we're finding out who the good guys are, and there are quite a few: Lawrence O'Donnell, Joy Reid, Katy Phang, Steven Beschloss, The Lincoln Project, and many more. People like us are coming out in droves to defend Joe Biden and refute people who want Biden out, even these people have no idea what comes next.

If you have a Threads account, go on there and at least take a look around and it will make you feel better to see how many people feel the same way most of us feel. It's been cathartic to post my feelings and opinions to those who have so quickly turned against Biden. I've noticed that there are more trolls there these days (I read an article where there has been a 200% increase in Russian, Chinese, & Iranian trolls on our social media lately), But at least go and take a look. And speak your mind if you're so inclined.

[MontanaMama]

55. Truth.

I don’t post much in threads but I’ve been seeing what you’re seeing.

[karin_sj]

60. Ugh

I meant to post this as a new & separate thread and somehow it got put here. I rarely post but I've been so fired up lately that I have a few things to say! I have no idea how to delete my reply here, but I did create a new, separate one.

[BumRushDaShow]

61. Leave your reply right where it is - it's great information for this thread

and start a new OP if you want!

[58Sunliner]

56. Well said.

[hueymahl]

64. I know its hard to come to grips with it

But not everything is a conspiracy. Sometimes people just have bad nights.

[Grolph_]

77. I agree that President Biden had a bad night

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At someone else's suggestion I read the transcript.

It was cogent sauce vs. complete manure.

For the entire media hysteria to focus on President Biden's appearance versus the content of the candidates' answers tells me they will continue to treat this as a reality show, not a presidential election. I thought the point of a debate was to get answers. Stupid me!

[orangecrush]

65. We were told to expect this.

Putin did not disappoint.

[CETrotman]

66. This is no coincide re: We have just witnessed a muti-faceted propaganda campaign

The avalanche of shocking headlines about Biden's age was no coincidence—it was a concerted effort to undermine him. The mainstream media (MSM) viewership dropped dramatically when Biden took office. Trump had given them the highest ratings ever with his constant chaos and breaking news, and they want those ratings back! They are eager to cover a Trump revenge tour, which promises not only increased viewership but also the billionaire owners' promised tax cuts. They are selling out the country for pure greed.

THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING: PAY ATTENTION!

Biden's debate performance did not elicit the reactions they hoped for. Trump's bullying and barrage of lies did not fool independent voters. He made outrageous claims, like saying the world respected the U.S. on January 6 and that Democrats want to kill babies after birth—he sounded like a madman attacking an honorable man. The next day, an energetic Biden embraced his age and weaknesses: "I do not debate the way I used to, don't walk the way I used to, but I tell the truth..." He gave voters the enthusiasm they needed, and they began rallying around him. The media and Trump campaign took notice. The debate frenzy fizzled out within three days.

Then, the SCOTUS immunity ruling on Monday shocked the country and dominated the news, overshadowing the debate. This decision put the country on the brink of a constitutional crisis, making Biden the only viable choice to preserve democracy—70% disagreed with the ruling. That evening, Biden addressed the country, perhaps the world, with a strong response to SCOTUS immunity ruling (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2024/07/01/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-supreme-courts-immunity-ruling/):

"The presidency is the most powerful office in the world. It’s an office that not only tests your judgment, perhaps even more importantly it’s an office that can test your character because you not only face moments where you need the courage to exercise the full power of the presidency, you also face moments where you need the wisdom to respect the limits of the power of the office of the presidency....This nation was founded on the principle that there are no kings in America... No one — no one is above the law, not even the president of the United States...

Nearly four years ago, my predecessor sent a violent mob to the U.S. Capitol to stop the peaceful transfer of power...Now the man who sent that mob to the U.S. Capitol is facing potential criminal conviction for what happened that day. And the American people deserve to have an answer in the courts before the upcoming election...Now, because of today’s decision, that is highly, highly unlikely. It’s a terrible disservice to the people of this nation...the American people have to do what the Court should have been willing to do but would not...The American people must decide if Trump’s embrace of violence to preserve his power is acceptable.

Perhaps most importantly, the American people must decide if they want to entrust the president — once again, the presidency to Donald Trump, now knowing he’ll be even more emboldened to do whatever he pleases whenever he wants to do it...I know I will respect the limits of the presidential power, as I have for three and a half years. But any president, including Donald Trump, will now be free to ignore the law.

I concur with Justice Sotomayor’s dissent today. She — here’s what she said. She said, “In every use of official power, the president is now a king above the law. With fear for our democracy, I dissent,” end of quote.

So should the American people dissent. I dissent. "

The media didn't want this comparison to take root: "I know I will respect the limits of the presidential power, as I have for three and a half years. But any president, including Donald Trump, will now be free to ignore the law." The choice became clear: trust an honorable old man who respects the rule of law or an old convicted felon with no moral compass who used presidential power to pardon criminals and hide his crimes?

Then, the Jeffrey Epstein transcript was released, implicating Trump in the criminal scene—child rape. This should have been a disastrous week for Trump, causing his campaign to hemorrhage support and raising questions about his viability, not Biden's.

The corporate media desperately shifted the narrative back to the debate, as if it was more important than the historic SCOTUS decision, which had only a two-day shelf life. They completely ignored the Epstein transcripts that incriminated Trump in horrifying detail. Instead, they created shocking headlines about Biden possibly dropping out and Democrats pulling their support. They strategically stirred panic and crisis within the party, forcing the Biden campaign to spend all their time putting out fires, instead of making the case for a Biden re-election given the SCOTUS decision. Scary polls fueled the panic. This was a multi-faceted propaganda campaign to dampen the reaction to the SCOTUS decision and squash the Epstein story. It was an aggressive effort to save Trump, who participated by staying out of sight while they bombarded Biden with lies.

Will it work? It's up to "we the people." The voters, not the media, hold the ultimate power in a democracy. While the media can influence perceptions and narratives, it is the voters who make the final decision. By staying informed, discerning the truth, and participating in the electoral process, voters can ensure that their voices are heard and their choices are reflected in the outcomes.

[DAngelo136]

73. I'm Glad You Said That

This has been a long term project by the conservatives. They know that it's "now or never", that this is their last best chance
to transform the United States into the conservative hellscape they've always wanted.
For forty years, they've had their way in their bizarro world economic and political project to tear down everything from the Great Society all the way to the New Deal. Why? Because deep down in places they don't talk about at parties, they despise democracy.

With neoliberal snake oil salesmen like " target="_blank">Milton Friedman, aided and abetted by hack screenwriter and wannabe "philosopher", Ayn Rand and her ilk, they helped to be the front people of millionaire backed think tanks like the Heritage Foundation and put the imprimatur of academic acceptance to their ideology, which when you get down to it, is just dime store economics.

It was a failure in 1981 and it's a failure now. They have depended on the short memory of Americans of how rough their policies were back then:

.

Corporations have grown on the public teat called "tax cuts" and they sure as hell don't want the Biden Administration and the Democrats to take it away. Joe Biden has been the most transformative president in over 40 years; Reagan "transformative".

So, understand that the corporatocracy and economic elite class is in the tank for the Republicans. They are willing to burn down democracy to keep their tax cuts, even if it means electing a failed human being and felon like Donald Trump.

[Bettie]

78. Yep. Maybe Biden's first act as "King"

should be to tell Clarence he's fired!

I know it doesn't really work that way, but it's fun to imagine him off of the court!

[nakocal]

74. A campaign that started with the Russian intelligence agencies

starting all of the President Biden is too old bullshit.

[GoreWon2000]

76. Media smearing Biden the way they smeared Al Gore in 2000

This is history repeating itself. The pro GOP media is once again savaging the Democratic Presidential candidate while they let the lying, GOP extremist Presidential candidate off the hook.

[SWBTATTReg]

79. And, I'm sick and tired of these rich idiots (most of them, some are okay) getting all of the tax breaks,

and paying their more than fair share of taxes, since they command a huge swath of income across the board. Haven't you made enough so far, so perhaps it's time to pay a little more of your share?

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

81. Yep. I'm Trump is a Fascist pig who cares only for himself.

who cares only for himself. Biden is a pro-democracy statesman who cares about this country.

Who supports the former over the latter?

[nowforever]

82. Pure unvarnished GREED

The Power Elite by C.Wright Mills written in 1956 lays out how the wealthy and powerful control and manipulate the system to benefit themselves. They always seem to forget about justice, morality and fairness when pursuing their ends. The sad truth is they are creating a World that will eventually swallow them up as it wages Wars to grab the last pieces of the pie. I think it is a distortion of the survival instinct that turns some into craven selfish pigs who have no vision beyond their own lustful desires. By choosing someone as dysfunctional as Trump they are unwittingly releasing a catalyst that will send the globe into a cataclysmic spiral down. The 1973 MIT computer model, World 3 predicted the end of Humanity by 2040 with the start of the decline in the year 2020. I can hear now the laments "If only we had known" guess what, most of us do, and they don't give a shit. Full steam ahead into the Apocalypse.

[Blue Owl]

83. All the major network news websites in my area have at least one Biden article

Mentioning his debate performance and/or calls from Democrats on Capitol Hill calling for his withdrawal from the race. But not ONE article calling for CONVICTED FELON Donald tRump suggesting that he do the same.

ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT and why I don’t trust ABCNNBCBS “news” to be anything other than a propaganda arm for the 1% Billionaires Club GOP, doing everything they can to make tRump fail upwards.

[DENVERPOPS]

84. Great comment Grolph

And don't forget what the Director of National Intelligence recently said:

We have witnessed a large amount of Pro Republican, Anti Democrat, Russian interference both in 2016 and 2020. RIGHT NOW, in the run up to the 2024 election, we are already experiencing a huge increase in the Propaganda coming from not only Russia, but NKorea, China, Iran and other foreign governments. A much larger amount......... and increasing every day.......

Loved you post, keep it up!!!!!!!!!!!

[Grolph_]

87. The wave of crap that is coming our way will be astonishing

The propaganda is already flowing from the firehose, they will add more firehoses as we approach the election.

A single operator can control thousands of identities. They obviously don't use all of them every day.
They have identities that fit the needed demographics appearing from anywhere in the world via VPN.
They can sustain flame wars single handedly.

Their primary goal is to divide us, do not let them.

Thank you for the compliment.

[DENVERPOPS]

88. I have been telling everyone I know:

That on Nov 5th and 6th we will be witnessing the likes of nothing we have every come near seeing here in the entire history of the United States, most dramatically if Biden squeaks a win with all the Republican's preliminary rigging of the elections.........at worst, the USSC will wade in like they did in 2000.......

[elocs]

89. What does it say about America that much of it will choose to vote for a male, not a "man",

who was neither a successful president not a decent human being?

[Attilatheblond]

91. Yep, in support of their budget deficit ballooning tax cuts, and

Distract from the growing exposure of Trumps problems with little girls and all the news exposing Project 2025. The more news that seeped out about the latter two issues, the bigger the howl that Biden had to drop out.

Distract, divide, and distract some more. It was orchestrated and too many fell for it.

[wryter2000]

94. I've never seen anything like it

Even MSNBC. Not everyone there, but a lot. We’ve seen through it. I hope we return to more or less sanity soon.

[Cha]

95. Wow, This is Good! TY, Grolph!

Nailed It!

[Botany]

96. Yup

This is Hillary and her emails, John Kerry being a coward despite 3 purple hearts, a bronze star, and a silver star, Hunter Biden and his laptop, the January 6th heroes, Al Gore invented the internet, WNDs in Iraq, and so on.

THEY HAVE TO LIE TO LIVE.

[Snoopy 7]

98. "All of this was done in support of tax cuts for the wealthy."

This is the old adage of 'why did you rob the bank? Because that's where the monies at...' now the mob has realized that they have their foot in the right place. The mob has been placing their people in politics for some time now. If you don't believe that then tell me when did you hear about the "MOB" lately. Nothing, nada, nilch the mob went quite and trump came out, trump is so mobbed up that even the media says so they just won't keep repeating it because they want the money...