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Stinky The Clown

(68,384 posts)
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 11:27 AM Jul 2024

Dear bed wetters, whiners, pearl clutchers, chicken littles, and other assorted disenchantees and scaredy cats

You've had ample opportunity to shit on Joe Bien (always with "love" of course) and exhort him to leave the race.

Fine.

Feel better? Wiser?

Now SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GET BACK IN LINE. Do it now and you won't lose your place.

The real issue is the convicted felon and wannabe dictator. Put all that energy into stopping THAT threat, not the guy who had 3-½ years of brilliance and a 90 minute spot of bad TV.

What the fuck is wrong with you????????

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Dear bed wetters, whiners, pearl clutchers, chicken littles, and other assorted disenchantees and scaredy cats (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Jul 2024 OP
Thank you! GoCubsGo Jul 2024 #1
Stinky, VERY WISE Clown. Words of wisdom my friend thanks posting. Trueblue1968 Jul 2024 #27
Stinky the Clown, carrying on the tradition soldierant Jul 2024 #99
Thank you, Stinky! Ocelot II Jul 2024 #2
Absolutely! FarPoint Jul 2024 #3
In this Democrat's Mind Best_man23 Jul 2024 #4
Yup The Magistrate Jul 2024 #5
Right on! Linda ladeewolf Jul 2024 #6
And adjudicated rapist and alleged pedophile Aviation Pro Jul 2024 #7
Couldn't agree more hermetic Jul 2024 #8
Well said proud patriot Jul 2024 #9
AMEN mindfulNJ Jul 2024 #10
Preach sheshe2 Jul 2024 #11
My feelings exactly!! Peacetrain Jul 2024 #12
Amen! Joe saved our democracy once by defeating that orange menace MaryMagdaline Jul 2024 #13
Four years ago due to Shitler's Covid-19 mismanagement, we were using refrigerator trucks as morgues, OMGWTF Jul 2024 #92
Thank you, thank you, louslobbs Jul 2024 #14
AMEN! Dem2theMax Jul 2024 #15
What's wrong with them? Too busy baking cookies to take to the street fight for our Democracy. NoMoreRepugs Jul 2024 #16
KNR plus a gazillion. niyad Jul 2024 #17
WHO ELSE YA GONNA VOTE FOR ON THE BALLOT? TRUMP? ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 2024 #18
You do realize it's not our decision SCantiGOP Jul 2024 #19
Well, yeah. But we are also among *the voters* who will make the final decision, Ocelot II Jul 2024 #29
Bingo. K&R c-rational Jul 2024 #20
Grow a Vagina and fight god damn it! NotHardly Jul 2024 #21
Possible answers to the "What the fuck is wrong with you" question. Phoenix61 Jul 2024 #22
I, too, have accomplished all of those things and more. Ocelot II Jul 2024 #31
Biden is doing his interview with Stephanopoulos and now the cry appears to be Bev54 Jul 2024 #23
Probably not. BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #25
I believe Bird Lady Jul 2024 #28
Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #24
Amen! sanduca Jul 2024 #26
Reminds me of the Al Franken debacle. Ocelot II Jul 2024 #33
I think du management needs Post a no biden bashing banner on the home page. Put on more moderators Trueblue1968 Jul 2024 #42
EarlG has made it quite clear... JoseBalow Jul 2024 #83
Yep. So, if you see rule breaking, alert on it! Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #128
Should those you refer to thank you for not calling them assholes?. KPN Jul 2024 #30
nt Nimble_Idea Jul 2024 #32
The problem is leaving this safe space. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2024 #34
Thanks Stinky 3auld6phart Jul 2024 #35
Yes! lees1975 Jul 2024 #36
THANK YOU!!! bluboid Jul 2024 #37
Feed the troll and you pay the toll. usonian Jul 2024 #38
Exactly this! travelingthrulife Jul 2024 #72
Same puppet master. usonian Jul 2024 #73
Thanks for the... brakester Jul 2024 #85
The Dem Convention 90-percent Jul 2024 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Idaho Jul 2024 #52
Thank you! Say it again, LOUDER!! Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #40
Powerful, well-reasoned argument miffelplix Jul 2024 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Idaho Jul 2024 #43
Allow me to applaud you... CaptainTruth Jul 2024 #44
Well expressed STC. Magoo48 Jul 2024 #45
As we say around here bignutz1 Jul 2024 #46
JFC!!! MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2024 #47
Go Stinky exoskeleton Jul 2024 #48
For sure DownriverDem Jul 2024 #49
What you said, Stinky! calimary Jul 2024 #50
I just want to beat the convicted felon. Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #51
Thank you! ellie Jul 2024 #53
TOTALLY AGREE Desert grandma Jul 2024 #54
Like this posting, Stinky, you nail it. republianmushroom Jul 2024 #55
YES! YES! Haru Jul 2024 #56
Four years ago we had a primary where any dem could run, and BIDEN WON. D23MIURG23 Jul 2024 #57
This is the most important and truthful note on du now. Trueblue1968 Jul 2024 #58
Tell us how you really feel, Stinky mcar Jul 2024 #59
KICK BootinUp Jul 2024 #60
Well, that ForgedCrank Jul 2024 #61
Works for me Grolph_ Jul 2024 #80
Rec wryter2000 Jul 2024 #62
Also consider postcarding. Dulcinea Jul 2024 #90
Great idea. Blue Dawn Jul 2024 #106
My pleasure! nt Dulcinea Jul 2024 #107
Dead on balls accurate, Stinky. gademocrat7 Jul 2024 #63
Thanks Stinky! Bettie Jul 2024 #64
+1000 ZonkerHarris Jul 2024 #65
So VERY appropriate! DFW Jul 2024 #66
I don't like to be bullied, Goodheart Jul 2024 #67
Oh ffs themaguffin Jul 2024 #68
The problem is those who feel better and wiser but are just not. dchill Jul 2024 #69
My Lord! We agree! MineralMan Jul 2024 #70
Only a handful of people have said Biden should step aside brooklynite Jul 2024 #71
Win or lose, I'm still with Joe. I'm not convinced that a replacement at this stage would satisfy enough of the base... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2024 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Idaho Jul 2024 #75
I think I love you! MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #76
Thank you! Not a great night, but an amazing 3.5 years. madibella Jul 2024 #77
What a ridiculous post. Music Man Jul 2024 #78
thank you Skittles Jul 2024 #101
United We Stand anniebelle Jul 2024 #79
Tell us what you really think, Stinky Warpy Jul 2024 #81
You have to read between the lines Kaleva Jul 2024 #82
I totally agree! Erda Jul 2024 #84
lol Don't Hold Back! 🕯️🕊️💙🌊🇺🇸 Cha Jul 2024 #86
PS.. Gov Wes Moore said "We're Not Handwringers"! Cha Jul 2024 #87
God forbid someone has reasonable doubts... johnnyplankton Jul 2024 #88
I might agree with you, but Jakes Progress Jul 2024 #89
If people on DU choose to vote for Trump or Bettie Jul 2024 #98
What makes you think people on DU will do EITHER of those things? ClickClack Jul 2024 #102
But they don't know any republicans to antagonize, so Jakes Progress Jul 2024 #116
Good way to get people to agree with you and vote for Biden... Jakes Progress Jul 2024 #115
Oh, god. Not the polite police again. paleotn Jul 2024 #109
Oh god. Why be polite to fellow Democrats? Jakes Progress Jul 2024 #113
If they're going to risk monarchy because their feelings are hurt.... paleotn Jul 2024 #117
If you are going to risk monarchy because your feeling Jakes Progress Jul 2024 #141
Or maybe some Americans need to grow the F up. paleotn Jul 2024 #143
As I said. Avoid jobs that call for diplomacy or self-regulation. Jakes Progress Jul 2024 #145
Thank you!!! Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2024 #91
Fine by me. ClearSky24 Jul 2024 #93
Concern noted Stinky The Clown Jul 2024 #94
Discussion is one thing GenThePerservering Jul 2024 #95
Thank you for Progressive dog Jul 2024 #96
YES...........NC DENVERPOPS Jul 2024 #97
Surely such an attitude will win votes Fearless Jul 2024 #100
Yes Keepthesoulalive Jul 2024 #103
It ain't over till the fat lady sings Miami Blue Jul 2024 #104
Kick LW1977 Jul 2024 #105
The future's so bright, Joe's gotta wear shades... Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2024 #108
biden wasn't THAT BAD. he ended strong. pansypoo53219 Jul 2024 #110
Nailed it!! Support, donate and GOTV! Nuff said!! PortTack Jul 2024 #111
Like a lot of people, I panicked the night of the debate, but hopefully like most people generalbetrayus Jul 2024 #112
inconvenient truth: Biden will need the votes of millions who believe he is unfit for the job. Oliver Bolliver Butt Jul 2024 #114
Enjoy your stay. shrike3 Jul 2024 #124
Source please, of these "millions" that believe Biden is unfit for the job. sheshe2 Jul 2024 #135
latest Times/Sienna poll Oliver Bolliver Butt Jul 2024 #139
Please link to posts shitting on Joe Biden iemanja Jul 2024 #118
I have seen no disrespect for Biden here, whatsoever. Goodheart Jul 2024 #119
... mcar Jul 2024 #121
IKR? sheshe2 Jul 2024 #136
You've got to be kidding. shrike3 Jul 2024 #123
Link to such a post. Goodheart Jul 2024 #126
How many do you want? shrike3 Jul 2024 #130
I see no disrespect in any of those. Sorry. Goodheart Jul 2024 #131
Not surprised, considering one was yours, lol. Oh well. shrike3 Jul 2024 #132
Maybe you'll take the word of a longtime and well-respected Duer shrike3 Jul 2024 #134
The Heritage Foundation has a playbook for him to be dictator for life. Initech Jul 2024 #120
Because yelling at people always works Rob H. Jul 2024 #122
I'm sorry, but if Trump wins we will lose this republic and never have another election. PatrickforB Jul 2024 #125
I agree with a lot you say. Dems have not succeeded in getting the message out. shrike3 Jul 2024 #133
pin this thread bigtree Jul 2024 #127
Deserves a K/R just for the Subject Line. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2024 #129
And stay off my grass! live love laugh Jul 2024 #137
In my opinion this snarky post is insulting and not helpful. Trust_Reality Jul 2024 #138
So what if it costs the election. Jakes Progress Jul 2024 #142
I approve this message! Ohioboy Jul 2024 #140
Thank you, StC! Well said. Aristus Jul 2024 #144

Trueblue1968

(17,924 posts)
27. Stinky, VERY WISE Clown. Words of wisdom my friend thanks posting.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:21 PM
Jul 2024

I have alerted on bad posts on this website that were anti President Biden.

We are a big family here and need each other's support. Our duty is to support our president and our party. Thanks again.

soldierant

(7,773 posts)
99. Stinky the Clown, carrying on the tradition
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 05:20 PM
Jul 2024

of the jester speaking truth to power. And a damned difficult job it is. Shalespeare, among oyhers, would be happy to know that the tradition holds.

Best_man23

(5,093 posts)
4. In this Democrat's Mind
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 11:34 AM
Jul 2024

Joe Biden (AKA Dark Brandon) is 12 feet tall, made of tungsten steel, and has frickin laser beams coming out of his eyes.

Ride or Die with Joe.

Linda ladeewolf

(297 posts)
6. Right on!
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 11:35 AM
Jul 2024

At last a person who sees it. You don’t dump a good president cause he has a bad debate. Joe is the best we’ve had since Obama.

OMGWTF

(4,388 posts)
92. Four years ago due to Shitler's Covid-19 mismanagement, we were using refrigerator trucks as morgues,
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 03:41 PM
Jul 2024

businesses and schools were shut down, and there was no toilet paper. Over a million Americans died which, percentagewise is more than any other country. Now, our economy is the best in the world, and we really are Building Back Better. VOTE! VOTE! VOTE!

SCantiGOP

(14,154 posts)
19. You do realize it's not our decision
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:06 PM
Jul 2024

Ultimately, and irrevocably, the final decision will be made by the voters, not by someone yelling at people in a DU post.

Ocelot II

(120,001 posts)
29. Well, yeah. But we are also among *the voters* who will make the final decision,
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:23 PM
Jul 2024

and while "yelling at people in a DU post" might be just venting, connections like DU affect people's attitudes IRL. If reading doom and gloom and pearl-clutching on DU or other social media discourages me or affects how I think about the election, will it affect either my vote or my inclination to take action, contribute to or work for the campaign or the party? Nothing happens in a vacuum, it's all connected. Some people have announced their departure from DU because they've become so disheartened by the doomsayers. Are they so disheartened that they''re giving up, or are they just avoiding all the negativity? What we say to other people, here or IRL, matters.

NotHardly

(1,132 posts)
21. Grow a Vagina and fight god damn it!
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:10 PM
Jul 2024

Pussy boys and whinny girls need to STFU and grow a Vagina ... whinny pearl clutching shits are either Russians or bought by Russians and I am getting damn tired of hearing it ... stop it, get back to work on saving democracy or STFU, seriously. You too MSNBC whinny Cockroaches.

Phoenix61

(17,498 posts)
22. Possible answers to the "What the fuck is wrong with you" question.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:10 PM
Jul 2024

They never bombed out on a school exam.
They never bombed out on a job interview.
They never bombed out on a first date.
Having accomplished all of the above I couldn’t care less about a fucking debate.

Ocelot II

(120,001 posts)
31. I, too, have accomplished all of those things and more.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:26 PM
Jul 2024

You get back up again. Biden got back up again, as he has always done.

Bev54

(11,851 posts)
23. Biden is doing his interview with Stephanopoulos and now the cry appears to be
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:11 PM
Jul 2024

"that is not enough". Will there ever be enough to satisfy? It is a vicious circle that we need to break.

Bird Lady

(1,894 posts)
28. I believe
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:22 PM
Jul 2024

The greatest anti Biden spin is coming straight out of Russia and the maggots. Once you recognize that truth, you can ignore the noise. Or as my mom used to say, "Consider the source" before you take it as fact.

Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

sanduca

(56 posts)
26. Amen!
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:15 PM
Jul 2024

My point exactly, thank you!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Like I said many times...no one has the right to get President Biden off the top of the ticket except for one person and that is the president himself.
Democrats, think about this ...when a Democrat does a tiny tiny mistake...democrats want to lynch him. Trumputin is a rapist, a thief, a liar, and a gazillion other things plus stupid...no knowledge of history, government or humanity. Republicans worship him and stick by their felon.
Why can you stick by a good guy that was tired from travels and had a cold. Who cares about the stupid debate? In my view, he won the debate. He kicked trumputin's ass for 75% of the debate.
Appreciate President Biden or end up with a Putin hand picked dictator.

Ocelot II

(120,001 posts)
33. Reminds me of the Al Franken debacle.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:29 PM
Jul 2024

We lost an excellent Senator because some of his Dem colleagues just had to jump on the Virtue Bandwagon.

Trueblue1968

(17,924 posts)
42. I think du management needs Post a no biden bashing banner on the home page. Put on more moderators
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:38 PM
Jul 2024

Just my humble opinion.

JoseBalow

(4,859 posts)
83. EarlG has made it quite clear...
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 02:32 PM
Jul 2024
This is DU's current position:

Advocating for removal of Biden, or discussing whether Democrats should force him out, is not permitted. Joe Biden is the Democratic nominee and is protected by DU's "Don't bash Democratic public figures" rule. Advocating for his removal is currently considered "undermining" our candidate in a general election. Juries should act accordingly to remove such posts.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219095058#post56

KPN

(16,038 posts)
30. Should those you refer to thank you for not calling them assholes?.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:24 PM
Jul 2024

Good to know the browbeaters still believe in decorum.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,598 posts)
34. The problem is leaving this safe space.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:30 PM
Jul 2024

I don't recognize us, let alone the free world. It's like a new kind of virus. This based on my usual go-to sources for news.

3auld6phart

(1,226 posts)
35. Thanks Stinky
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:31 PM
Jul 2024

You have a way with words. I agree with you. Spineless, defeatist asshole,spprobably gutless DINOs at best.

travelingthrulife

(396 posts)
72. Exactly this!
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 01:39 PM
Jul 2024

My sister said she voted against Clinton for this very reason. "Don't you think she is too sick for the job?"
Completely manufactured by the GOP and the compliant corporate media. Amazingly, some people fall for it every time it is done.

brakester

(103 posts)
85. Thanks for the...
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 03:25 PM
Jul 2024

pertinent examples!

The media is against us. That's why we must double down and make our voices heard.

And volunteer at your local Democratic or independent election group!

90-percent

(6,868 posts)
39. The Dem Convention
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:34 PM
Jul 2024

Hopefully that will be the time when our party comes up with the best plan to save our 237 year old democracy. The best form of government in history. (May have been better forms of government in history. Kinda ignorant about the history of democracy.)

-90% Jimmy

Response to 90-percent (Reply #39)

miffelplix

(57 posts)
41. Powerful, well-reasoned argument
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:36 PM
Jul 2024

Glad to see our party relies on reason and argument, and not bullying, name-calling, and invective, to persuade others.

Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Magoo48

(5,110 posts)
45. Well expressed STC.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:41 PM
Jul 2024

Although, “ Now SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GET BACK IN LINE. Do it now and you won't lose your place.” is beyond my behavioral perimeters or inclinations by nature, I do believe deeply in the reunification you’re proposing.

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,310 posts)
47. JFC!!!
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:43 PM
Jul 2024

Couldn't have said it better.
The constant threads over and over and over again about how Pres. Biden needs to withdraw is nauseating from shit sources is mind boggling.
I'm almost to the point of quitting DU until after the election in Nov..

All those that are posting these threads over and over again need to F**K off and leave.

DownriverDem

(6,579 posts)
49. For sure
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:46 PM
Jul 2024

I will not vote for a convicted felon. I will not vote to take away my rights. trump & the MAGAs will destroy us.

ellie

(6,953 posts)
53. Thank you!
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:49 PM
Jul 2024

The hysteria was overwhelming and seemed coordinated to me. But what do I know? Let's go kick some repuke ass!

D23MIURG23

(3,050 posts)
57. Four years ago we had a primary where any dem could run, and BIDEN WON.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 12:55 PM
Jul 2024

This year we had a primary and people ran against Biden and they got TROUNCED.

WHY DO PEOPLE THINK WE SHOULD RUN SOME RANDOM DEM WHO COULDN'T BEAT BIDEN IN THESE PRIMARIES!?!

K&R.

Trueblue1968

(17,924 posts)
58. This is the most important and truthful note on du now.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 01:00 PM
Jul 2024

I wish EU would not allow the really posts that Stinky is mentioning.



Thank you Stinky

wryter2000

(47,260 posts)
62. Rec
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 01:09 PM
Jul 2024

Why not put that energy into figuring out how you can help the re-election process? If you get one or two non-voters to vote and/or take them to the polls, you've done your duty. If you have bunches of money, donate. If you can live with people hanging up on you, make calls. If you're shy, write letters.

This year we all need to figure out what extra we can do as well as voting. (And bellyaching on DU doesn't count.)

 

Goodheart

(5,760 posts)
67. I don't like to be bullied,
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 01:21 PM
Jul 2024

Especially by a bully with a foul mouth.

Because I can read the level of enthusiasm of everyone around me in real life I am still in favor of Biden setting his ego aside for somebody who will excite people.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
71. Only a handful of people have said Biden should step aside
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 01:36 PM
Jul 2024

Doesn't mean the challenges of winning the election aren't larger than they were a week ago.

And name-calling isn't the most useful way of selling your opinion.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,441 posts)
74. Win or lose, I'm still with Joe. I'm not convinced that a replacement at this stage would satisfy enough of the base...
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 01:56 PM
Jul 2024

Last edited Thu Jul 4, 2024, 02:34 PM - Edit history (1)

to hold our usual coalition together. If Kamala is overlooked, you run the risk of alienating women, especially black women, who are the backbone of this party. I'm just not sure that a black liberal woman, from CA can win the middle of the country. One can only guess about some of the agendas at play from those calling for Joe to step aside this late in the game. And why is it allowed at DU?

Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #74)

madibella

(160 posts)
77. Thank you! Not a great night, but an amazing 3.5 years.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 02:11 PM
Jul 2024

Absolutely idiotic to not back him up.
He literally has no one! The media might as well be working for the GOP. Republicans haven’t had to lift a finger.
Had everyone stood strongly behind Biden the second he took the debate stage and immediately after, this would have been over by now. We’re in a cycle now where the media is creating the story, looking for reactions, then creating new stories from those reactions! The Democrats who take part in this are going to cost us the White House. Fools. It’s insanity.

Music Man

(1,561 posts)
78. What a ridiculous post.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 02:12 PM
Jul 2024

Garnering support to move forward and elect Biden? Sure! Referring to criticism of a legitimately bad debate performance as bedwetting, pearl clutching, etc. and shutting down anything that is even the slightest bit critical of Biden and his campaign? No thank you.

There are adult conversations to be had here, and anyone who wasn't concerned about this race after that debate is full of fucking shit.

Happy cult!

anniebelle

(906 posts)
79. United We Stand
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 02:13 PM
Jul 2024

We best get behind our candidate and quit buying into media propaganda and right-wing talking points. There is only one path to saving our republic, which leads right through Joe Biden. I can't believe so many are dismissing him over one bad night at an event that proves nothing about his ability to run our country.

Warpy

(113,065 posts)
81. Tell us what you really think, Stinky
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 02:21 PM
Jul 2024

Just let the pundits keep showing their terror of Joe Biden. Cockroaches usually fear the light*. We're Democrats and by definition we're far too ornery to slavishly follow guys with blow dried hair and empty heads to perdition. After all, there is little wrong with Biden beyond some of the normal signs of aging. His opponent, however, has some glaring deficits that are obvious every time he opens his mouth these days.

There have been only two spineless wimps in Congress so far calling for Biden to drop out. I think that is a good measure of how ready Biden is for another term, people in government know him best.

johnnyplankton

(444 posts)
88. God forbid someone has reasonable doubts...
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 03:33 PM
Jul 2024

Seriously. This 'If you ain't wid us, you agin us' mentality is disturbing.
Questioning whether an 81-year old man who MAY have cognitive slippage and suggesting that another candidate might be better suited should not be equated with supporting Trump. It rings of a cult mentality. Like MAGA.

Jakes Progress

(11,170 posts)
89. I might agree with you, but
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 03:34 PM
Jul 2024

your tone and attitude and language couldn't be better designed to alienate and discourage some from voting for Biden in November.

Sure you can thump you chest and tell me to go fuck my self if I don't agree with you, but what are the chances you will get me to agree with you if you do? It makes you feel good and makes you all happy to shit on people who don't agree with you, but it does nothing that can help Biden in his efforts to get every vote possible. In the 2016 campaign, many Bernie supporters were called names told to shape up and get with the program. Did that cost the votes that Hillary needed? Do you really care if Biden wins or just want to chest pound. This isn't about you or even about Biden.

Suppose I didn't want Biden and called his supporters names and insulted their concerns with terms I won't use here. The two of us would make the magat planners very happy;

How about some reasoned debate and reassurance for your fellow Democrats rather than a screed that will divide he party and surely cost Biden support?

(BTW I do support Biden's candidacy and eventual election. I wan't as many votes for him in November as possible.)

Bettie

(16,849 posts)
98. If people on DU choose to vote for Trump or
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 04:53 PM
Jul 2024

just "not gonna vote" because they didn't get the replacement they wanted for the sitting president, then what are they even here for?

And people on DU are the intended audience.

ClickClack

(72 posts)
102. What makes you think people on DU will do EITHER of those things?
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 05:36 PM
Jul 2024

Have you actually seen posts from DUers saying they intend to not vote, or to vote for the convicted felon? If you have, I doubt there were many, and I also doubt that they were posted by genuine Democrats.

This hostile attitude toward any of us who are legitimately frightened about the upcoming elections is insulting.

Jakes Progress

(11,170 posts)
116. But they don't know any republicans to antagonize, so
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 07:45 PM
Jul 2024

they just rant and help divide the party. Makes 'em feel good for some reason.
'

Jakes Progress

(11,170 posts)
115. Good way to get people to agree with you and vote for Biden...
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 07:43 PM
Jul 2024

Call them names and piss them off.

That doesn't do the party any good. It doesn't help get votes for Biden. It doesn't do anything but make magats happy.

Oh. And you get to feel so self-righteous. Yeah. That's the important thing.

See if you hear Biden saying "If you don't want me, then fuck off. I don't need your vote you asshole."


I don't know how old you are, but I remember the 2016 election very well.

paleotn

(18,994 posts)
109. Oh, god. Not the polite police again.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 06:43 PM
Jul 2024

This is politics, not a goddamn church service. I'm with Stinky....what the fuck is wrong with those people.

Jakes Progress

(11,170 posts)
113. Oh god. Why be polite to fellow Democrats?
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 07:37 PM
Jul 2024

Better to piss them off and separate the whole group. It won't help us win the election, but venting is so self satisfying. And we all know that me being smug and happy is more important than avoiding a monarchy.

paleotn

(18,994 posts)
117. If they're going to risk monarchy because their feelings are hurt....
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 08:33 PM
Jul 2024

maybe that's what they deserve.

Toughen up, butter cup. Americans can be so weak and foolish.

Jakes Progress

(11,170 posts)
141. If you are going to risk monarchy because your feeling
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 12:14 PM
Jul 2024

is that Americans are weak, maybe you should be a little less self absorbed.

Sure some people will be that stupid. But there are millions who will suffer if people take your attitude and take away the votes of stupid people just so you can feel superior.

Don't ever take a job involving diplomacy or leadership. This attitude is very, very short sighted.

paleotn

(18,994 posts)
143. Or maybe some Americans need to grow the F up.
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 06:14 PM
Jul 2024

THEY are the one's who are self absorbed. "Oh, those Biden acolytes are so mean to me. All I was doing was being manipulated by the media since I have a hard time digesting facts and thinking for myself. Thus, I'll fuck myself AND THE REPUBLIC by not voting for Biden."

Sorry, but I'm well past tired of the whiny American in their cushy bubble. The same fucking idiots who voted for Nader in Florida back in 2000 and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis died because of it. Jebus!!!

Jakes Progress

(11,170 posts)
145. As I said. Avoid jobs that call for diplomacy or self-regulation.
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 07:15 PM
Jul 2024

I take it that you would rather have tfg as president than have to stifle your urge to call fucking idiots fucking idiots. If some stupid moron is so limited in thinking that they are on the fence between Biden and tfg, you feel the need to alienate that doofus into voting for the orange dimwit. You can't just tamp down your sense of self righteous rage for a few months until we get as many votes as possible for Biden. You do know that we are going to need a large number of those blithering idiots to vote our way if we want to keep any semblance of decency in the country. You seem to be saying that you are so tired of whiny people that you would rather have trump as president than just keep your mouth shut. Calling out the fools and idiots is so satisfying that you would rather us lose than stifle yourself?

 

ClearSky24

(299 posts)
93. Fine by me.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 04:23 PM
Jul 2024

But what if President Biden in the next couple of months starts glitching again, and right in the most important moments in his campaign?

Then what? At that point there is no going back to replace Biden, and regular voters don't have the mentality or loyalty of DU folks.

Miami Blue

(161 posts)
104. It ain't over till the fat lady sings
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 05:45 PM
Jul 2024

That's why I am riding Biden’s blue waves
🌊 until the end. Hell yes!

generalbetrayus

(603 posts)
112. Like a lot of people, I panicked the night of the debate, but hopefully like most people
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 07:30 PM
Jul 2024

I thought better of panicking the next day. A few days ago, I got so pissed off at the media reaction I donated 100 dollars to the Biden PAC, and I'm not sure I've ever given to a Presidential campaign in the past, except for maybe Obama's

114. inconvenient truth: Biden will need the votes of millions who believe he is unfit for the job.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 07:43 PM
Jul 2024

Unfortunately, the DU vote won't cut it.

sheshe2

(86,941 posts)
135. Source please, of these "millions" that believe Biden is unfit for the job.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 11:52 PM
Jul 2024

I will wait right here, Oliver.

139. latest Times/Sienna poll
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 09:01 AM
Jul 2024

Last edited Fri Jul 5, 2024, 12:14 PM - Edit history (3)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/07/03/us/elections/times-siena-poll-registered-voter-crosstabs.html

26% of registered DEMOCRATIC voters 'strongly agree' that Biden is too old to be effective. 58% of independents strongly agree. He's gonna need all of the democratic votes, and more than half of the independent ones.


iemanja

(54,542 posts)
118. Please link to posts shitting on Joe Biden
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 09:44 PM
Jul 2024

Because I haven't seen any. What I have seen is people with unresolved anxiety within themselves who feel compelled to lash out at DUers they think may be guilty of thought crime, when in fact those openly arguing for replacing Biden are Democrats in the larger political sphere.

Initech

(101,554 posts)
120. The Heritage Foundation has a playbook for him to be dictator for life.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 09:49 PM
Jul 2024

Shithead is literally talking about canceling elections now. We’re a hair away from a totalitarian dictatorship. And there’s a mad man in the Kremlin who will take over the world if Fuckhead is elected in 2024.

DO YOU FUCKING GET IT YET????

PatrickforB

(15,072 posts)
125. I'm sorry, but if Trump wins we will lose this republic and never have another election.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 10:15 PM
Jul 2024

The suffering we will all endure can barely be imagined. The billionaires are literally flooding the race with money because they want tax cuts and deregulation. They have freakishly spent their lives amassing billions of dollars and they are still hungry for just a little more.

This republic is at risk of ending, and we are at risk of all decent quality of life being crucified on the cross of the greed of a few billionaire parasites.

My son just got married and there were dozens of his friends and their parents there. He's in his late 30s. He and his millennial friends think Biden has been terrible because they get their news off social media and corporate-owned propaganda networks, and whether they vote for him or not is up in the air.

So yeah, I'm pretty concerned about this whole thing. I mean, think about the recent release that shows Trump had sex with underage girls supplied by Epstein. We seem to be the only ones who know about that, BECAUSE THE CORPORATE MEDIA HASN'T BEEN REPORTING ON THAT AT ALL.

For decades I have known the truth - the attempted Wall Street coup against FDR clear back in the 30s. The 1971 Powell Manifesto that laid out the plan for the corporate takeover of the US. Reagan killing the Fairness Doctrine. The 24/7/365 corporate long game to infiltrate schools and colleges, the Koch funded Tea Party. Citizens United, Dobbs and now this new decision making the president a king.

And the Democrats have not messaged well. They have gone high when the Republicans have attacked from the gutter.

Sorry, but my whole life, everything I've worked for, will probably go down the drain to give these billionaires just a few more dollars if we do not win.

We are responsible as a party for letting it get to this point in the first place. If we are very lucky 2025 will usher in at least a four-year continuation of the republic. If we are not, all bets are off and many of us will likely be disappearing into the new gulags that Bannon and Miller are ready to create.

So you know, Stinky, it is pretty serious, and yes I'll be fighting tooth and nail, donating, talking to people. But let's not sugar coat things here. I we can't make it happen then the loss of our republic will happen to us. Courtesy of Charlie Koch, Zuck, Bezos, Musk and the rest of the billionaire freaks.

Biden is a nice guy, a good man, and has been a great president, BUT NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT THIS DUE TO THE FAILURE OF THE PUBLICLY TRADED MEDIA TO REPORT ON IT. Where was our plan in say 2000 to begin laying the groundwork to get our story out? Where is our plan now? Because as I say the fix is in - billions of dollars are lined up and all we have is us and the rest of the American public purposely dumbed down over decades as part of the corporate plan.

When are we gonna learn? Wall Street and shareholder primacy capitalism RUINS all it touches, and it is all set to ruin this republic if we don't pull this out over the next four months. My stress level is through the fucking roof, and I know I'm not alone. I'm fucking angry, really, really mad.

And you know, I have no power at the federal level. I'm not some kind of influencer. I just get to watch. You have any idea how fucking stressful that is? For a 65 year old guy who is a caregiver and disabled himself? Who has HEALTH CARE DEBT because 'Murika ain't nebber goin go SOSH-A-LIST.

So don't be asking me to be a good little boy and get in line. I will do all I can including donations but there are some other folks that really really need to be getting their shit together. I'm sorry for saying that but it is the truth. It hurts to have NO say and just watch everything you care about, everything you love get pissed on because of corporate greed.

IF, and it is very much an IF, we win, we need to start playing hardball with these fucks.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
133. I agree with a lot you say. Dems have not succeeded in getting the message out.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 11:06 PM
Jul 2024

Biden has done a great job, but nobody knows that. The media doesn't talk about it, nor will they talk about Project 2025 and those plans for our futures. Our side has to bypass the media somehow and find other ways.

And damn right, we have to play hardball.

OAITW r.2.0

(28,081 posts)
129. Deserves a K/R just for the Subject Line.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 10:50 PM
Jul 2024

Have not read this thread because I concur with the point you made. Biden/Harris - I am so rolling with this team. Kamala knows law.

Trust_Reality

(1,840 posts)
138. In my opinion this snarky post is insulting and not helpful.
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 06:39 AM
Jul 2024

The struggle to guarantee Trump looses is a full fledged crisis.

Aristus

(68,067 posts)
144. Thank you, StC! Well said.
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 06:27 PM
Jul 2024

I have to say, all of those “concerned Democrats” out there telling Joe Biden to step down are really earning their rubles.

I’m Team Biden/Harris all the way.

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