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Grins

(9,257 posts)
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 01:53 PM Jul 2024

04 July. On this date in 1987, Trump arrived in Moscow as a guest of the state.

On this date in 1987, Trump arrived in Moscow as a guest of the state. He was lodged in the KGB-run "National Hotel" on Red Square and given Vladimir Lenin's personal suite, a suite the KGB had bugged. He was in Moscow with his first of thee wives - the daughter of a Communist official. She had been monitored for the previous 10-years.

In 1987 you could not just "visit" Russia. You had the be invited; and before you were even invited, you had to be "vetted" - by the KGB. And there already existed at that time a KGB file on Donald Trump. A 1977 file created first by the StB, Czechoslovakia secret police, because Czech citizen, Ivana Zelnickova, had married Trump.

Under KGB directions to recruit Americans, the then-Soviet Ambassador to the UN, Yuri Dubinin, sought out Trump, hoping that one day he would be "useful" to Soviet "interests." Dubinin deemed Trump 'useful' enough to arrange his trip to Moscow.

Dubinin’s daughters confirmed that their father was on a mission as ambassador - to make contact with America’s business elite. And found Trump.

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04 July. On this date in 1987, Trump arrived in Moscow as a guest of the state. (Original Post) Grins Jul 2024 OP
Are you sure of the date? pandr32 Jul 2024 #1
Just google "when Trump first visited Russia" Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #3
Yep. Verified. dchill Jul 2024 #5
Yes. Grins Jul 2024 #18
It's been right in our faces.. Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #2
Or his... JoseBalow Jul 2024 #10
Seems to me there ought to be dweller Jul 2024 #4
Thanks for the link. llmart Jul 2024 #11
I remember it was posted here dweller Jul 2024 #14
I wish you would. Grins Jul 2024 #20
Here's another dweller Jul 2024 #21
I didn't want to do a thesis. Grins Jul 2024 #19
Diarrhea Donny has some very dark secrets that need a light shine on them Blue Owl Jul 2024 #6
"From Ass To Asset" rubbersole Jul 2024 #7
Hilary wasn't joking when she called him a puppet Easterncedar Jul 2024 #8
What a stroke of luck for Russia soldierant Jul 2024 #9
Trump arrived in Moscow as a useful idiot. barbtries Jul 2024 #12
HOLY COW! joanbarnes Jul 2024 #13
That was my reaction after reading the article also. llmart Jul 2024 #15
Putin has been pulling traitortrump's puppet strings a long time. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2024 #16
God, this is downright scary... slightlv Jul 2024 #17

Grins

(9,257 posts)
18. Yes.
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 11:32 AM
Jul 2024

Yes. Trump wrote in his ghost-written shitty book, "The Art of the Deal:"

“In January 1987, I got a letter from Yuri Dubinin, the Soviet ambassador to the United States" to visit Moscow.

Politico:

On July 4, 1987, Trump flew to Moscow for the first time, together with Ivana and Lisa Calandra, Ivana’s Italian-American assistant.

dweller

(27,883 posts)
4. Seems to me there ought to be
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 02:15 PM
Jul 2024

More to this story .

But you haven’t provided a link , so


So let me provide one to a more detailed report :
https://newrepublic.com/article/150646/young-trump-went-russia

😱

✌🏻

llmart

(17,336 posts)
11. Thanks for the link.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 04:32 PM
Jul 2024

I just read the entire article and it certainly shines some light on his past involvement with Russia.

dweller

(27,883 posts)
14. I remember it was posted here
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 04:49 PM
Jul 2024

In 2018 I suppose but had to google it to find it, couldn’t remember the source


✌🏻

Grins

(9,257 posts)
20. I wish you would.
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 11:47 AM
Jul 2024

Because I think I was the one who wrote that DU post. With a copy going to my Reich-wing friends and useful idiots to relentlessly defend Trump.

It had far more detail than this little reminder. I thought I had saved it, but I can no longer find it. It may have been on a another computer of mine that crapped out on me around that date.

Grins

(9,257 posts)
19. I didn't want to do a thesis.
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 11:38 AM
Jul 2024

But I could have as there is so much more.

It started with a story in Politico, and with the publication of a book by a Soviet defector to British intelligence, not naming Trump, but that the KGB and put a real emphasis around the world in recruiting useful idiots.

One of the recruiters then was a 34-year old named Vlad Putin, trying to recruit Latin American students studying in East Germany where he was stationed.

PS: thanks for the link.

rubbersole

(10,998 posts)
7. "From Ass To Asset"
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 03:45 PM
Jul 2024

A biography of an orange democracy hating criminal. By Vladimir Pooteen.

Easterncedar

(5,566 posts)
8. Hilary wasn't joking when she called him a puppet
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 03:57 PM
Jul 2024

All the chaos and corruption was a distraction; this has been obvious from the start.

soldierant

(9,289 posts)
9. What a stroke of luck for Russia
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 04:27 PM
Jul 2024

that one "elite" businessman happened also to be a useful idiot.

llmart

(17,336 posts)
15. That was my reaction after reading the article also.
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 04:55 PM
Jul 2024

Remember the debate with Hillary - "Russia, if you're listening." I remember getting chills when he said that, even more so than when he stalker around her back.

slightlv

(7,447 posts)
17. God, this is downright scary...
Thu Jul 4, 2024, 05:43 PM
Jul 2024

and begins to put the starting puzzle pieces into play. The fact that none of this came out during T's run in 2016 against Hillary is criminal, IMO. How much of this did the Enquirer trap and hide? No wonder Ivana had to die; she had the goods on Trump and Moscow from the very beginning. And they're already marked her as a liability for Trump and the presidency. Shameful. I recommend reading the whole article. It'll make your mind swim and get your dander up at how much has been hidden from us, the voting electorate.

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