Donald Trump, Katie Johnson Allegations: Everything We Know - Newsweek

[mzmolly]

Donald Trump, Katie Johnson Allegations: Everything We Know

A viral post on social media is circulating a court document with allegations of sexual assault against former president Donald Trump made in a legal filing that was dismissed almost a decade ago.

The post alleges that Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee for this year's presidential election, "forced" young girls to "perform lesbian sex acts." It has amassed more than 17 millions views on X, formerly Twitter, since Monday, and has been shared more than 34,000 times.

Some X users appeared to believe that the document is a recent filing. The post was shared after about 150 pages of transcripts related to a 2006 grand jury investigation into Jeffrey Epstein's rape and sex trafficking of teenagers was released to the public on Monday.

However, the document included in the X post isn't connected to those papers, but actually comes from a lawsuit filed in the months leading up to the 2016 election by an anonymous plaintiff using the name "Katie Johnson." ...

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[mzmolly]

1. It's good to see the MSM, FINALLY reporting

on this.

[Mike Nelson]

2. I remember this story...

... from years ago. It was mentioned in DU posts. It quoted allegations in a lawsuit that was dropped, with the allegations not checking out... I wonder if there is any new information or collaboration? Maybe that's why the story returned?

[TexasBushwhacker]

4. Or it was dropped because she was afraid for her life

Here's an article from 2019

https://sacramento.newsreview.com/2019/10/21/wait-katie-johnson-actually-exists/

[mzmolly]

5. I think it returned because new documentation

was discovered suggesting Trump had regular calls to Epstein in the general timeframe this occurred.

[LeftInTX]

12. It's returning because Epstein's GJ files were released. But these aren't even related.

Epstein's was criminal and Trump isn't named in those files, but someone thinks he's a John Doe in Epstein's GJ documents.
They are circulating this old civil suit to draw attention to Epstein's GJ docs. Or they're simply circulating them for clicks.

Without any corroboration or the plaintiff ever stepping forward, this will go nowhere. The media was really sour on the Katie Johnson case.

The lawsuit accusing Trump of raping a 13-year-old girl, explained
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation

[mzmolly]

23. The story went away

because the girl, in fear, later denied it. But the original court filing is very similar to newer evidence against Epstein, that has since come to light. Not to mention, there were contemporary witnesses like "Tiffany Doe."

[DemocraticPatriot]

34. In the story I read today, her former attorneys can no longer locate her...

Her former phone number was disconnected.

So the alleged rape victim whose life was threatened by Trump and his maggots,
cannot be found today.......

"WHERE IS KATIE JOHNSON?!"

[bamagal62]

53. But, Biden is old.

I’m so sick of this sh/t. He’s a rapist. Full stop.

[allegorical oracle]

29. Remember it, too, and how it just melted away. Figured a big payoff occurred.

[DemocraticPatriot]

35. No big payoff.... just a ton of threats from a "basket of deplore-ables"

and she withdrew the case in fear for her life.

[DemocraticPatriot]

3. Good...

[TexasBushwhacker]

6. And don't forget

according to TFG himself, "if you're famous, you can do anything".

[Dem4life1234]

7. Finally

Newsweek reporting this!

What filth he is.

[LeftInTX]

8. It's old news. It was around in 2016.

She sued Trump and withdrew her suit.
Asked if she would sue him again she said she won't.

[kansasobama]

10. Why would she not

If Orange Turd wins, he can take her out.

[LeftInTX]

15. Without corroboration this isn't going to get much traction. It will remain on DU and DU will blame the MSM

However, the MSM gave them the benefit of the doubt in 2016. They found she used a fake address and non-working phone when she filed her lawsuit.

She can come forward. Many other women have. Lisa Bloom said Trump threatened to kill her in 2016. He could have killed her then because he supposedly gave her death threats back then.

[mzmolly]

24. "Tiffany Doe"

corroborated the story, at the time it came to light.

[DemocraticPatriot]

37. At the moment, according to her former attorneys, she can't be found...

#whereiskatieporter

As a woman, I believe that you might understand why a rape victim might be afraid to come forward or continue a lawsuit after having her life threatened by a rich and powerful white male.... and why she might use anonymous contact points.

"Many women have"--- well, some women and some men are braver than other women and other men--
and reputedly, 'Katie Johnson' withdrew her lawsuit after her car and cellphone were stolen,
which would certainly threaten anyone's sense of well-being and personal safety...


Frankly, I don't care if it would 'get much traction' based on the former case, or not...
but I think if it can be made into a 'buzz' with signs, somebody will have to cover it,
if only to ask 'what's with all these "rapist" and "where is katie johnson" signs!

How much of what Trump blathers 'gets much traction'?

How much of the 'Willie Horton ad' (1988) should have 'got much traction'?

[tulipsandroses]

44. Yep. I don't mind playing on their level. They have made up stories out of nothing about " Biden crime family "

I don’t mind having this story out there.
In a recent interview Trump hedged on whether he would declassify Epstein docs. Why?
https://m.

[DemocraticPatriot]

46. Heh, yeah.... and he tried to cover his ass on it in advance...

'those people are full of falsehoods' or some such rot--
because he vaguely recalled that HIS NAME was probably in there.....

[mzmolly]

13. I don't recall it getting much attention

in 2016. It went away because she was threatened. Though I think in the context of new documents and testimony, it's relevant again.

[LeftInTX]

14. I sure do!!! Everyone was tuned into the press conference where she was gonna speak.

Then Lisa Bloom said she had death threats and that was the end. It happened a few days before the election. It was supposed to be the big "October surprise", but it wasn't.

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[mzmolly]

17. Initially that's true.

It seemed to go away quickly, without any further investigation after the poor young woman backed away. Now that more is coming to light, I hope there is a deeper dive into the matter.

[LeftInTX]

18. This is all old. It's not more. Someone reposted it on social media the other day as if it was new.

The Epstein grand jury transcript is new, but Trump isn't in the Epstein grand jury transcript. He's in the Katie Johnson transcript which has been around for eight years now.


Donald Trump, Katie Johnson Allegations: Everything We Know
The allegations in the now-dismissed suits appear to[b] resurface on social media when documents related to Epstein are unsealed

Some X users appeared to believe that the document is a recent filing. The post was shared after about 150 pages of transcripts related to a 2006 grand jury investigation into Jeffrey Epstein's rape and sex trafficking of teenagers was released to the public on Monday.

However, the document included in the X post isn't connected to those papers, but actually comes from a lawsuit filed in the months leading up to the 2016 election by an anonymous plaintiff using the name "Katie Johnson."

That lawsuit, filed in federal court in Riverside, California, in April 2016, named Trump and Epstein, the late convicted sex offender, as defendants. It claimed the men held Johnson as a "sex slave" in 1994 when she was 13 and forced her to perform sex acts.

A judge dismissed the case in May that year, ruling that the complaint didn't raise valid claims under federal law, Politico reported at the time.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-katie-johnson-allegations-sexual-assault-case-dismissed-1921051

[mzmolly]

20. I realize that. I am familiar with the history.

But the videos/documents surfacing of late, are creating a new curiosity, which is good. The video of Katie (not her real name) is all over twitter now.

Your post proves my point ... the original story went away quickly and many people were unaware of the accusations. The NEW information I note is video of other victims which has been recently released. Their stories are strikingly similar to the story Katie shared in 2016. Is it coming together for you now?

[LeftInTX]

25. You're wanting the MSM to cover it. Newsweek did and they said it's an old story.

Unless she or Tiffany Doe come forward, the MSM will not cover it.

The WaPo went into elaborate details about the new transcripts for Epstein's GJ, but they did not mention Trump's name in the article.

If you want the MSM media to cover it, you will need to contact them.

[mzmolly]

28. Hopefully they read

Newsweek.

[WarGamer]

36. the video in question was produced by a Jerry Springer show producer.

This allegation is particularly sketchy.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/07/donald-trump-sexual-assault-lawsuits-norm-lubow

[mzmolly]

38. Well then, defer to the court filing.

eom

[LeftInTX]

42. The case has been tossed, but it can always be refiled. Maybe ask her to refile the case.

[mzmolly]

45. Given your asserted expertise,

you might consider the fact that the child victim's former attorney said she was AFRAID to continue with the court case. You know, due to the threats upon her life and the lives of her family members?

Why the zealous defense of Trump as it relates, "left" in TX?

[DemocraticPatriot]

47. Pooh pooh--- we are only allowed to consider death threats

if they frighten Republicans....

[mzmolly]

49. Apparently so.

And some here are pretty upset that we're discussing Trump's reported child rape history, for some reason.

[DemocraticPatriot]

63. Well, they seem to be doing more than they ought to

try to debunk that issue....

[mzmolly]

64. Agree.

It's odd.

[LeftInTX]

51. Why in the hell didn't Obama arrest Trump for death threats????

My dad was dying and I ran out of the hospital to watch Lisa Bloom's press conference. Was your dad dying and did you run out of the hospital to watch her press conference?

[mzmolly]

52. Obama didn't have the power to arrest

Trump for death threats. What an absurd question.

And, I doubt your story, frankly.

[LeftInTX]

54. So you're calling me a liar????????????

You're saying my dad wasn't dying???????

[mzmolly]

56. I am saying

your story is suspect in the context of this conversation.

[LeftInTX]

57. Here is my post from Jan 1st , 2017

My dad died on November 6, 2016 two days before the election.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8420259

[mzmolly]

58. I'm sorry for your loss.

That doesn't change my opinion on your story and your curious defense of Trump.

[LeftInTX]

59. My story is true. My dad died and I ran out of the hospital watch Lisa Bloom's press conference a few days before the

election. So what is your opinion of my story? That I didn't leave to watch Lisa Bloom's press conference??
Why do I so vividly remember it????

[mzmolly]

60. I feel your primary interest

in this discussion is to defend Trump.

[LeftInTX]

62. I'm with the Democratic Party. I do not support Trump.

I sign an oath of affiliation to the Democratic party whenever I file for my position. I work to get Democrats elected.

[DemocraticPatriot]

39. What was 'old' could be made 'new again'!

It may be 'old',
but I don't recall ever having heard anything about it at the time!

It is NEW to me--- and clearly to many other voters!!!


Old or new, in my estimation, this information can be made to 'draw blood'
just as well or even better than Republican attacks on President Biden!

So it puzzles me why you are exerting as much energy as you are to discount the story.

[mzmolly]

40. I too am puzzled by the notion,

that that child rape accusation should be dismissed as 'old news' - by some here.

[LeftInTX]

41. Right here:

Lawsuit Charges Donald Trump with Raping a 13-Year-Old Girl

A civil suit against Donald Trump alleging he raped a 13-year-old girl was dismissed in California in May 2016, refiled in New York in June 2016, and dropped again in November 2016.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

______________________________________

The lawsuit accusing Trump of raping a 13-year-old girl, explained
It was the end of an incredibly strange case that featured an anonymous plaintiff who had refused almost all requests for interviews, two anonymous corroborating witnesses whom no one in the press had spoken to, and a couple of seriously shady characters — with an anti-Trump agenda and a penchant for drama — who had aggressively shopped the story around to media outlets for over a year.

Those shady characters — a former reality TV producer who calls himself “Al Taylor” and a “Never Trump” conservative activist named Steve Baer — had been mostly unsuccessful in getting the media to bite. There are a few very good reasons for that, which the Huffington Post’s Ryan Grim succinctly summed up: Taylor and Baer have been really sketchy about the whole thing, and since the accuser is anonymous, journalists can’t do anything to verify her claims. The only journalist who has actually interviewed Johnson, Emily Shugerman at Revelist, came away confused and even doubting whether Johnson really exists.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation

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I don't see it being revived unless a witness comes forward. The case was tossed by one judge because the plaintiff gave a fake address.


You're welcome to contact any media and see if they will revive it. Contact a prosecutor. Her attorney didn't bother to even contact a DA or law enforcement. Child rape should never be ignored by prosecutors. Why did her attorney ignore the criminal aspects of this whole case? Child rape is criminal.

[DemocraticPatriot]

43. OH, obviously you don't understand me: I am not arguing for a prosecution

or a legal case here---

I am arguing for a case "in the court of public opinion"
or indeed a "no holds-barred attack" against Trump,
in the midst of an election which may decide whether
we have any freedoms left after it is over--
or whether we are ALL going to be 'RAPED BY TRUMP' !

It is far past the time when Democrats should use a butter-knife in a fight
against opponents use nuclear weapons!

I don't give a shit about what happened to the original suit--- except that the plaintiff
was terrorized to the point where she withdrew the case---

IMHO, that proved nothing except that she was effectively frightened away
by MAGGOTS who threatened her life and that of her family, explicitly!

I am arguing here for a MEME campaign against the RAPIST, Donald Trump!

And we should not be held to any higher 'standard of evidence'
than Trump is held to.... especially just to hold a sign which says
"RAPIST" or "WHERE IS KATIE JOHNSON?"

Free speech and all that! Ever heard of it ?


I'll leave it to you to argue for 'reasonable doubt' if the case ever comes to court again.

[mzmolly]

48. The discussion has been 'revived'

regardless of any court filing that may or may not be contemporary.

[LeftInTX]

50. You are complaining that the MSM hasn't revived it.

You were complaining that child rape allegations weren't taken seriously.


Then you say legal stuff doesn't matter and all that matters is public opinion.

[mzmolly]

55. Your contrary spin on my commentary

is noted.

[kansasobama]

9. Shouldn't this make bigger news?

I hope NYT picks it up.

[Katcat]

16. Dunno

Story on Twitter is that the NYT are in the tank for trump because of all the pro trump stories. Just reporting what I read.

[LeftInTX]

19. It's eight years old. It isn't new at all. It was covered back then.

Lisa Bloom arranged for her to have a press conference as a October surprise on Nov 2, 2016. She was a no-show, claiming death threats. It was all over the news at the time.

[mzmolly]

21. But now we know more.

We know that Trump pays off victims. We know other girls had strikingly similar stories. We know Trump left several messages for Epstein to call him around the time in question etc.

[mzmolly]

22. Yes it should. I hope this is the beginning

of a deeper dive into the seedy history of the rapist, felon, Republicans are running for the Presidency.

[republianmushroom]

11. Sure seems strange how republican family values work.

[brush]

26. Wasn't it just last week there were reports of TSF getting hand jobs at Epstein events?

He would slap the teen girls hands away until they put on a rubber glove, him being a germophobe and all.

What a disgusting POS. And his path to the WH seems just about assured by the corrupt SCOTUS 6's unchallengeable immunity ruling.

We are so screwed.

[DemocraticPatriot]

33. Those are descriptions from the dropped case we are talking about here,

yes...

They have to wear gloves before touching his penis,
but he doesn't have to wear one before shoving his organ wherever he wants....

Typical GQP values, "do what I say, not what I do"

but eventually he raped the same girl with genital penetration,
ignoring her pleas to wear a condom with the words
'I do whatever I fucking want' while slapping her

[captain queeg]

27. Probably he'll twist some story making it an official duty so he can claim immunity.

I know, it was years ago. Like I said he’ll somehow submit some ridiculous claim. He might even get it to the SC.

[DemocraticPatriot]

30. PEDOPHILE RAPIST REFUSES INTERVIEW WITH ABC....

Kicking this....

'Katie Johnson deserves justice'!

I think we should stalk outside any Trump campaign appearances,
with signs which say "RAPIST", mention 'Katie Johnson'
and THROW CONDOMS at the Trump motorcade....

until the MSM wakes up and asks, 'what is this about'
and 'who is Katie Johnson?'

Hang on like a fucking terrier, like the MSM is doing with "Biden is old--- Biden should withdraw"

[mzmolly]

31. Exactly. It's an odd narrative.

Convicted felon & adjudicated rapist vs. decent guy three years older? And WHICH one should drop out?!

[DemocraticPatriot]

32. "DROP OUT RAPIST" and "WHERE IS KATIE JOHNSON??"

signs would look good outside of a Trump rally

[dweller]

61. Here's the court docs from 2016

https://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/katie-johnson-civil-case-for-rape-trump-epsteinpdf/257375882

I didn’t see anyone post them here yet

Warning they are graphic


✌🏻

[mzmolly]

65. But Biden should step down?

What a bizarre, corporate controlled world we live in.