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Richard_GB

(115 posts)
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 01:28 AM Jul 2024

Today is a bloodbath for conservatives in Britain

The constituency of Bury St Edmunds has been a Conservative Party seat since 1885. Not today, l never expected to see a labour MP there. I only wish that my father in law had lived to see this. He voted Labour there in every election with no expectation of a Labour win. We have done our bit in the UK in this election year. I wish the the same for you in November. Today I am really enjoying watching political coverage on the TV. 😁😁😁😁

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Today is a bloodbath for conservatives in Britain (Original Post) Richard_GB Jul 2024 OP
I hope we read those headlines for us in November DEM1955 Jul 2024 #1
oh I wish my mum had lived to see this Skittles Jul 2024 #2
I wish Glenda Jackson were here to see this. no_hypocrisy Jul 2024 #12
... roamer65 Jul 2024 #3
It's a happy day, but there's a note of caution Azathoth Jul 2024 #4
I agree - we need to switch to proportional representation Richard_GB Jul 2024 #5
will never happen as long as one side constantly cheats and steals Skittles Jul 2024 #6
I liked the moniss Jul 2024 #7
What a moniss Jul 2024 #8
Tories post a new record in defeat Old Crank Jul 2024 #9
May "Do One" cross the pond like the Beatles in '64. rzemanfl Jul 2024 #11
Wonderful wryter2000 Jul 2024 #10
More of this, world! DavidDvorkin Jul 2024 #13
I was looking at the vote percentages..... TheRealNorth Jul 2024 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Idaho Jul 2024 #15
Should we worry about Farage winning a seat? RandomNumbers Jul 2024 #16
Farage forced to put his "principles" in action other than bloviate. haele Jul 2024 #18
If he drags the Conservative Party right.... TheRealNorth Jul 2024 #20
Farage will be a noisy irritant Richard_GB Jul 2024 #21
i'm so jealous.......... Takket Jul 2024 #17
Wish it was here! LeftInTX Jul 2024 #19
 

Azathoth

(4,677 posts)
4. It's a happy day, but there's a note of caution
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 01:40 AM
Jul 2024

It was only a couple years ago that commentators were crowing that the Torries had not only won, but had broken Labour's back by demolishing its northern red wall and thus permanently reshaping the future of British politics.

The political pendulum across the Western world is swinging back and forth very hard.

TheRealNorth

(9,647 posts)
14. I was looking at the vote percentages.....
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 10:33 AM
Jul 2024

Labor basically did squat (33.7% in 2024 compared to 32.2% in 2019). It looks like they just benefitted from:
1 - the collapse of the Conservatives. However, around 2/3 of the Conservative vote that was lost loss went to alt-right Reform UK. If you added the Conservatives and Reform UK , they easily have about 40% of the vote.

2- the collapse of the SNP put a lot of Scotland back in play for Labour

3- low voter turnout kind of suggests a lot of would-be conservative voters stayed home.

Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #14)

RandomNumbers

(19,091 posts)
16. Should we worry about Farage winning a seat?
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 10:50 AM
Jul 2024

I'm not very knowledgeable about UK politics, but I saw that Farage won a seat finally after 7 previous tries, and he is in the ultra-right wing so-called "Reform" party.

Is Farage a nutjob wannabe demagogue like Trump? Should we be concerned?

haele

(15,207 posts)
18. Farage forced to put his "principles" in action other than bloviate.
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 11:04 AM
Jul 2024

One hopes that actually catching the car will show his constituency how much of a smarmy opportunist with few brains he really is and how much of him was a sham to fleece the gullible.
But then again, it is Parliament, and there were enough in a district constituency who voted regularly for Liz Truss - who couldn't outlast a head of lettuce.
Politics. It's a game to too many.

Haele


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