Who does Sen. Warner think he is secretly trying to undermine our votes in this election?

[bigtree]

Last edited Fri Jul 5, 2024, 07:32 PM - Edit history (2)

..this isn't his choice to make.

This senator and every other politician falls below the voters who chose Joe Biden to run against Trump. Let's be clear. This senator and presumably others are staging a backstage coup attempt against Democratic voters.

What are they going to do? Bully him out by dragging him down?

I'd like to see this senator's schedule compared to the president's. He's been on vacation while the president has been campaigning this month and doing the people's business at the same time.

He's not only full of shit about the president, he's threatening democracy with this self-appointed, star-chamber negotiating of our votes away behind closed doors.

Is Sen. Warner thinking someone is going to anoint HIM in some convention coronation? We already have one candidate looking to be crowned instead of elected. Why emulate that?

He needs to either decide if he's with this president or campaigning, as he is here, or is he against him. The primary is over. Democrats have voted for Joe Biden knowing full well how old he is or what his limitations are.

Warner should tell us what this historically successful president hasn't yet done, outside of Warner's OWN legislative body has yet to accomplish, that he thinks is a consequence of Joe Biden's age.

Otherwise this is just bald political opportunism and he should get behind this ticket and fight the opposition instead of the man we voted for.

Link to tweet

THIS is the man the majority of us voted to run against Trump. Why would any Democrat want this man out of the race and be working right now to weaken him? It's unconscionable and despicably wrong, not to mention political death for our party and our chances in this election if the man we voted for is pushed out by these millionaire pols.

See for yourself. President Biden in Wisconsin this afternoon:

Call Sen. Mark Warner @markwarner at 1-202-224-2023 and leave a message of support for President Biden

[MOMFUDSKI]

1. Shame on him.

Emails are in order. He sucks and needs to hear it.

[bigtree]

20. I put his number in the OP

Call Sen. Mark Warner at 1-202-224-2023

Got right through to their recording.

Old enough to remember when you could usually get an aide on the line.

[MOMFUDSKI]

21. Thanks

for that. I have to go now. I have a phone call to attend to!

[brooklynite]

2. A guess: he's trying to hold Virginia for the Democrats so he doesn't lose in November.

[emulatorloo]

5. Ah, strategery. See Forbes:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dansimon/2012/09/11/5-differences-between-strategy-and-strategery/

Outlined below are five examples to help you determine whether the plan you are currently developing represents strategy or, in fact, strategery:

1) If the 'strategy' meeting you're holding was called ten minutes ago it's a strategery meeting

2) If you're developing the plan at midnight on your 10th cup of strong coffee, it's probably strategery

3) If three participants in the meeting are dialing in separately by phone to discuss it, it's strategery

4) If the 'strategic plan' needs to be implemented at 9am tomorrow morning and completed by 10am it's a strategeric plan

5) If you're writing it on a plane, train or the back of a car, it's strategery

[Cha]

7. Virginia doesn't like President

Biden?

[brooklynite]

15. Its not a question of liking him.

He's likely worried that, if VA voters don't think Biden can win, they won't show up to vote and that will put him, Vindman, and other candidates at risk.

[Cha]

18. Like him to be President!

We need Virginia!

We need GOTV for Vindman and the President.

[MOMFUDSKI]

22. So his ass is more important than

my Democracy

[Silent Type]

3. Did he say to vote against Democrats?

[emulatorloo]

8. OP is referring to the votes of Primary voters.

That’s what they clearly wrote in the thread.

[Irish_Dem]

4. Why is he doing it?

The party and Joe Biden are moving forward.
The decision has been made.

Time for unity and winning an election.

For a couple of days everyone had their say.
That is fine.

Now it is time to pull together to preserve our democracy.

[honest.abe]

6. The number of Democrats publicly coming out on this is growing by the hour.

I don’t consider them all idiots or turncoats.

[Cha]

9. I do.

[bigtree]

10. do the math

...you're overestimating how many there are.

A handful of legislators working to undermine our president behind closed doors is just ratfuckery, not an actual threat.

[Bettie]

11. Well, that may be because you have been VERY clear

in your desire to see Biden out of the race...so, your opinion may be colored by what you want to see.

[Silent Type]

13. That works both ways.

[honest.abe]

19. Indeed.

[emulatorloo]

12. "Not knowing what else to do, Dems shit on their own"

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1809311013839466846.html

For centrists, journalists, pundits, *even Dem electeds*, the way you prove you are a Reasonable, Serious Person in DC is by shitting on Dems. For the left, the way you prove you are a true radical is by shitting on Dems. For the right ... well, obviously.

Everyone's professional incentives are to shit on Dems. Dwelling on Trump & his fascist movement -- however justified by the objective facts -- just doesn't bring that juice, doesn't get the clicks & the high-fives, doesn't feel brave & iconoclastic. It's just ... no fun.

So, say Biden stepped aside in favor of Harris tomorrow. How long until the vapid gossips we call political reporters find something wrong with her, some alleged flaw they just have to write 192 stories about? How long until the hopped-up mediocrities we call pundits ...

...find some "counter-intuitive" reason that the new Dem ticket is flawed after all? How long until the irredentist left gets over the temporary thrill of its new Harris memes & remembers that she's a cop & turns on her? How long before the ambient racism & misogyny in the US...

... lead center-leftists to conclude that, sure, they'd support a black woman, just not *this* black woman? In other words: how long before everyone reverts to their comfortable, familiar identity & narratives?

About 30 f'ing seconds, is my guess.

Dems uniting, feeling good, telling a clear story, receiving credit for their accomplishments--all of that is *impossible* in the current environment. It won't be allowed. Dems can punch themselves in the face all they want, abandon whoever they want, apologize all they want...

Much more at link...

From former Vox reporter, Dave Roberts

[shrike3]

24. Sounds like the other night.

When you seemed convinced that Biden would drop out by the end of a press conference.

[honest.abe]

25. Your confused. I never said that.

[shrike3]

26. Yes, you did. Come on. It was a thread about the press conference.

Here's where you start.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19098785

[honest.abe]

29. Yes and we are still nearing the end one way or another.

It may be hours or days or weeks. Nobody knows. It’s up to Joe. In my opinion.

[shrike3]

32. Um, he already said he's staying in?

[honest.abe]

33. If Joe survives this mess I am totally onboard.

I just have my doubts.

[shrike3]

34. If he doesn't, it's because Dems don't have a spine.

What would Republicans do in this situation? They'd say, "Fuck off, he's our nominee." What do Democrats do? Curl up in a bakk and say, "Please don't hurt me."

[honest.abe]

39. I think many have legitimate concerns.

The stakes are way too high to ignore the risk.

[shrike3]

40. Of course you think that.

[honest.abe]

41. It's not just me.

I think I will pause my comments for awhile. Clearly im upsetting a lot folks here.

[haele]

14. Follow the money. Betcha James Carville's li'l donors clatch is calling politicians.

They want Biden to pull out because of his rat-fucking, and they're leaning on politicians to force him out.
Maybe Joe should call them for a come to Jesus, maybe not. But I'm pretty sure they have something to do with this.

Haele

[JohnSJ]

16. This is the kind of garbage that makes me embarrassed as a Democrat

[Model35mech]

17. He thinks his love for corporations makes him a power in the Democratic party

And you know when you want money you have to go to those who have it.

And as Rahm tells us those who have it are corporations and the rich people who control them.

[Stinky The Clown]

23. REC! I completely agree. Him, Moulton, Grijalva, and Doggett can all bite my ass.

Moulton, in particular seems like he is self-promoting.

[Stinky The Clown]

30. Add Quigley to the list.

[IbogaProject]

27. Second richest Senator!

He co-founded Capital Cellular Corporation, and built up an estimated net worth of more than $215 million. As of 2023, he is the second wealthiest U.S. senator.
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki
Mark Warner - Wikipedia

[dlk]

28. Warner knows better and the question needs to be asked, why is he helping to perpetrate a redux of 2016?

Russians do have the best kompromat, though.

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

31. Sen. Warner is a Democrat Let him do what he feels is right without bashing him nt

[bigtree]

36. MY vote, not his

...he can do what he wants, but he's going to hear from me until he stops trying to cancel my vote in some backroom deal with his conservative, vote-trashing friends.

[W_HAMILTON]

37. Nah, fuck that.

He's not a kingmaker. He has no right or authority to supersede the will of Democratic voters and substitute his own. He knows no better than anyone else and he is undermining our president and the future of our democracy.

Any and all Virginia residents should contact his office and tell him to BACK THE FUCK DOWN.

[spanone]

35. K&R

[Renew Deal]

38. Our votes? It was an uncontested election for most of us.

And I wouldn’t call Phillips and Williamson competition.

The delegates should do their job and select the best candidate to represent the party in November.

[bigtree]

42. there was a primary

...please state for us the law or provision in the Constitution where you get a re-do of the primary in which you were as free as any voter if registered in your state to cast your ballot for whoever you wanted.

Whatever your participation, if you didn't vote, there is no provision in the Constitution or law that would allow you to supplant mine with whatever choice you failed to advance in the primary.

You shouldn't be allowed to bully away or steal away votes cast in the ONLY truly democratic process for deciding who will run against the republican nominee.

[Renew Deal]

44. Parties can choose their candidates however they wish.

No political party has a constitutional right to existence. The Democratic Party, like the country doesn’t directly elect the president. We elect delegates and electors.

[myohmy2]

43. the only power...

...they've got is to split the Party and lose the election...

...only Joe can remove Joe and he's not going anywhere...

...they need to get used to it...