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Trueblue Texan

(4,468 posts)
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 07:04 PM Jul 2024

Chris Hays said, "For Biden the stakes couldn't be higher."

Then he interviews Mike Quigley. No, Chris. The stakes couldn't be higher for THE NATION!!! I'm fed up. Goodbye MSNBC.

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Chris Hays said, "For Biden the stakes couldn't be higher." (Original Post) Trueblue Texan Jul 2024 OP
Now he has Quigly on saying Joe should MOMFUDSKI Jul 2024 #1
Quigley is in an absolutely safe seat. This isn't self-preservation. brooklynite Jul 2024 #30
If Biden is forced out you can kiss goodbye to winning congress FloridaBlues Jul 2024 #2
Some in the party want him to stay in and some want him to be replaced. LonePirate Jul 2024 #5
Like Who are they going Cha Jul 2024 #10
They likely won't be voting with the exception being those who think the two parties are the same and will vote red. LonePirate Jul 2024 #11
Yeah? I'm Not Giving Up 🕯️🕊️💙🌊🇺🇸 Cha Jul 2024 #17
I'm not on the bubble of this site. Active member of Democratic party FloridaBlues Jul 2024 #13
There will not be a brokered convention. It will be Biden if he is still in the race, otherwise it will be Harris. LonePirate Jul 2024 #16
Well while you're out of the bubble, better check that thinking. W_HAMILTON Jul 2024 #19
Respectfully, I think that is a lot of bullshit. Trueblue Texan Jul 2024 #21
Debate performances don't play a role in election outcomes ...period PortTack Jul 2024 #41
I think I'm going to have to go MSNBC-free this weekend PatSeg Jul 2024 #3
I'm with you. badhair77 Jul 2024 #7
Same here and it often feels like PatSeg Jul 2024 #8
Same. I just can't take anymore gaslighting, especially there. nt Trueblue Texan Jul 2024 #22
I didn't even watch the ABC interview PatSeg Jul 2024 #25
Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #29
Well, Hi. You sound nice. GP6971 Jul 2024 #33
Holy crap! karin_sj Jul 2024 #35
Enjoy your pizza. nt Wednesdays Jul 2024 #34
Do you kiss your mamma with that mouth MustLoveBeagles Jul 2024 #36
I think Al Sharpton will be good this weekend wryter2000 Jul 2024 #37
I'm watching Bodkin on Netflix right now! PatSeg Jul 2024 #38
Is the media seeking out 2nd rate Dems to oasis Jul 2024 #4
Yeah and those of us for Biden are told we're "in a bubble "🫧 Cha Jul 2024 #12
Funny that no prominent Democrats are calling oasis Jul 2024 #14
Right On Dude 🕯️🕊️💙🌊🇺🇸🍀 Cha Jul 2024 #20
See Fetterman on this: emulatorloo Jul 2024 #27
Fetterman tells it like it is. nt oasis Jul 2024 #39
TY! Cha Jul 2024 #42
Great Feedback for Sen Fetterman! Cha Jul 2024 #43
And that feels like gaslighting to me PatSeg Jul 2024 #40
I stopped watching at that point. 2naSalit Jul 2024 #6
Biden says he isn't going anywhere. But Chris Hayes had a 2 hour show talking to everyone doc03 Jul 2024 #9
Clicks Cha Jul 2024 #15
Chris Hays pushed the Tara Reade story in 2020 without properly vetting it. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #18
I used to enjoy watching Hayes and listening to podcast. I'm done with him now. nt Trueblue Texan Jul 2024 #23
I remember that MerrilyMerrily Jul 2024 #24
Politicians say a lot of things. Renew Deal Jul 2024 #32
They certainly do nt doc03 Jul 2024 #45
Hayes has always had a bias against Hillary and Biden, so I am not surprised JohnSJ Jul 2024 #26
Yes he has.. I can vouch for That! Cha Jul 2024 #44
I've always been a huge Chris fan. Not any more. He's gone off the cliff with Nicole, Ari, Alex and BComplex Jul 2024 #28
That comment seems fine to me. Renew Deal Jul 2024 #31

FloridaBlues

(4,669 posts)
2. If Biden is forced out you can kiss goodbye to winning congress
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 07:18 PM
Jul 2024

Or Senate. They will piss off half of the party perhaps not coming out to vote. If any candidate is so scared of losing they need to get out and campaign more to secure their seat.

LonePirate

(14,367 posts)
5. Some in the party want him to stay in and some want him to be replaced.
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 07:31 PM
Jul 2024

I'm of the opinion that more Dems and Indies will vote for someone else if he stays in compared to the number that will vote for someone else if he drops out. There are no perfect solutions here. I think a lot of people on DU are insulated by the bubble of this site and do not realize how much damage his debate performance inflicted on a lot of voters.

Cha

(319,087 posts)
10. Like Who are they going
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 08:23 PM
Jul 2024

To Vote for?

I don’t think we’re in that “bubble” accusation.

LonePirate

(14,367 posts)
11. They likely won't be voting with the exception being those who think the two parties are the same and will vote red.
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 08:25 PM
Jul 2024

FloridaBlues

(4,669 posts)
13. I'm not on the bubble of this site. Active member of Democratic party
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 08:28 PM
Jul 2024

For many years. As State committee person and candidate. You and I disagree how
Dems will react if Biden is off ticket and the following result of that. It won’t be a magical unity going into a brokered convention.
Have a good one✌️

LonePirate

(14,367 posts)
16. There will not be a brokered convention. It will be Biden if he is still in the race, otherwise it will be Harris.
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 08:36 PM
Jul 2024

It is pure fantasy to think someone other than Biden or Harris will be atop the ticket when the convention arrives. No one except a Dem on the fringe would oppose either one at the convention.

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
19. Well while you're out of the bubble, better check that thinking.
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 08:44 PM
Jul 2024

Because one of the main reasons why many want Biden out is because they think it gives them another chance to get their guy as the nominee.

When they realize that it will be Kamala, they will bitch again about the dastardly DNC depriving their guy of his rightful nomination blah blah blah and we will have 2016 all over again, but much worse.

Trueblue Texan

(4,468 posts)
21. Respectfully, I think that is a lot of bullshit.
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 10:31 PM
Jul 2024

Everyone even THINKING of voting for Biden knows how high the stakes are. If another candidate steps in, we will lose our asses. Check out some history.

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
41. Debate performances don't play a role in election outcomes ...period
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 11:56 PM
Jul 2024

Historian Allan Lichtman, Who Predicted 9 of Last 10 Presidential ...
They don't: "Zero," he said when asked about the impact of Thursday's debate. "Debates are not predictive of outcomes," Lichtman said.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
3. I think I'm going to have to go MSNBC-free this weekend
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 07:22 PM
Jul 2024

Time for old movies and binge-worthy TV programs. In between, I'll hide out here.

badhair77

(5,182 posts)
7. I'm with you.
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 07:53 PM
Jul 2024

I'm fed up with most of MSNBC and their guests. The stress is shortening my life.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
8. Same here and it often feels like
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 08:02 PM
Jul 2024

I'm already on borrowed time. I need to hang in there, as I want to see how the story ends.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
25. I didn't even watch the ABC interview
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 10:51 PM
Jul 2024

I'm not going to torture myself while contributing to their ratings.

Right now my expectations for the media are very low, though my support for Joe is as strong as it has ever been. He doesn't have to prove anything to me, but right now a lot of journalists do.

Response to Trueblue Texan (Reply #22)

karin_sj

(1,370 posts)
35. Holy crap!
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 11:29 PM
Jul 2024

Someone flew out of the cuckoo's nest and ended up here. Not for long I'm sure.

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
37. I think Al Sharpton will be good this weekend
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 11:40 PM
Jul 2024

But I'm Netflix mostly. i suspect the weekday MSNBC folks will be worse than the weekend ones.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
38. I'm watching Bodkin on Netflix right now!
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 11:46 PM
Jul 2024

I have a few episodes of House of the Dragon to watch as well, not to mention tons of old movies.

oasis

(53,695 posts)
4. Is the media seeking out 2nd rate Dems to
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 07:31 PM
Jul 2024

publicly call on Biden to step down?

Sen Mark Warner, Rep. Lloyd Doggett, Rep. Raul Griajalva, Rep. Mike Quigley.

oasis

(53,695 posts)
14. Funny that no prominent Democrats are calling
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 08:34 PM
Jul 2024

for Joe to step down. I guess they’re in the bubble with us.
We’re in good company, Cha.

Cha

(319,087 posts)
20. Right On Dude 🕯️🕊️💙🌊🇺🇸🍀
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 08:48 PM
Jul 2024

The Best Company Ever!

🇺🇸

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
27. See Fetterman on this:
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 10:58 PM
Jul 2024



"If you want to betray the president like that... you're entitled to your opinion, but enjoy your three minutes of fame."

WATCH: Sen. @JohnFetterman responds to Sen. Warner assembling a group of senators to meet to discuss a path forward for Biden.

Cha

(319,087 posts)
42. TY!
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 12:15 AM
Jul 2024

I’ve been caring for my granddaughter today and on the bus too.. so when I get home I can do some major catch up.

I appreciate your help!🕯️🕊️🌊🇺🇸💙

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
40. And that feels like gaslighting to me
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 11:55 PM
Jul 2024

I've been a Biden supporter for over 20 years and always with a very open mind. Meanwhile, I am aware of all he accomplished in a short period of time, quite unlike any president in my lifetime.

Damn, all he wanted to do was serve. I think he left his political ego back in 2016 or so. This is a truly good man with exceptional skills who wants to make the world a better place. And for that, he is getting torn to pieces.

I guess the good guys are only allowed to exist in the movies or an Aaron Sorkin script.

doc03

(39,086 posts)
9. Biden says he isn't going anywhere. But Chris Hayes had a 2 hour show talking to everyone
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 08:04 PM
Jul 2024

he could find that wanted Biden to drop out. He knows damn well Biden is not going to quit so
why keep beating that dead horse.

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
18. Chris Hays pushed the Tara Reade story in 2020 without properly vetting it.
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 08:44 PM
Jul 2024

He's a toad.

BComplex

(9,914 posts)
28. I've always been a huge Chris fan. Not any more. He's gone off the cliff with Nicole, Ari, Alex and
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 11:21 PM
Jul 2024

even Rachel. Rachel is actually the biggest disappointment of all. She's always been the beacon of truth. Now she can't wait until Biden abdicates.

Renew Deal

(85,169 posts)
31. That comment seems fine to me.
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 11:23 PM
Jul 2024

He's talking about Biden politically. The nation thing is also true if Biden remains the nominee.

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