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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsReplacing Biden with Harris makes no sense.
And I mean that with no disrespect at all towards Madame Vice President, who I like and support and would vote for in a heartbeat.
But its entirely superfluous. Shes already the Vice President. Shes at the top of the line of succession. So wed already know that if God forbid something happens to President Biden in the next four years, shed be the one to take his place.
Were already voting for her. Why create needless drama for an already established fact?
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)shrike3
(5,370 posts)An Axios reporter said she has "a lot to answer for," for supporting Biden. Tipped his hand re what the narrative will be. Or how it will start.
ForgedCrank
(3,120 posts)this is making any rational sense right now. I just can't figure out what they are all thinking or how this can even remotely be a winning move.
hlthe2b
(114,685 posts)But if VP Harris were to take the top spot, she could (probably more effectively) launch the constant batter-ram of aggressive attacks against his lies. Her prior time as a prosecutor and AG more than prepares her to do so. Likewise, ageism is not limited to the attacks on Biden, but also reluctance by many younger voters to show up for non-generational-change candidates. One might assume Harris would be able to address that effectively.
Do I think many Trump--to--Biden independents might be conflicted about voting for Harris? I am not sure how that would shake out but I tend to think those who would not vote for a strong black intelligent WOMAN probably aren't going to vote for Biden either, but rather the racist, misogynistic Trump.
The media doesn't cover Harris and has scarcely done so throughout the past four years. If she were thrust into the Presidential candidacy, they would have little choice but to do so.
That said, I still hope that Biden can remain and turn these MSM-enabled/RW-coordinated attacks on its head. It does feel like we are letting a handful of worried DEMS and even more who are subject to manipulations from others to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" and potentially blow our best chance of defeating this MAGA monstrosity.
LisaL
(47,510 posts)NT
hlthe2b
(114,685 posts)But near-zero coverage sends a negative message as well.
LisaL
(47,510 posts)Like OP, I don't see any advantage of replacing Biden with Harris. She is already on the ticket.
hlthe2b
(114,685 posts)I said it in the subject line and throughout the post. It seems we can't even speculate on what is driving others to think differently without being called out ourselves and I am damned tired of it.
LisaL
(47,510 posts)hlthe2b
(114,685 posts)and further, you post to (falsely) TELL ME WHAT I THINK just so you can argue against that assertion!
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)Insinuating VP Harris in a liar and part of a coverup.
She is going to have to sit down & answer tough questions.
If she becomes the nominee, were gonna see a lot more of this.
Link to tweet
This was pointed out in a long thread by David Roberts, a former Vox Reporter. lll add a couple DU LINKS to his thread.
Link to tweet
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links to unrolled version of David Roberts thread:
THREAD (long): "... the idea that that the process of jettisoning Biden & choosing someone else will go well..."
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19108581
REPLACE BIDEN - "Not knowing what else to do, Dems shit on their own": unrolled thread from former VOX reporter
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219108224
Deek1935
(1,055 posts)the SHIT corporate media and by Trump and MAGATS relentlessly. Anyone thinking that ANY other Dem wouldn't be so attacked is living in fantasy land.
hlthe2b
(114,685 posts)If you want to make a rhetorical point then make that clear because I am not going to be your target for your frustrations. Otherwise don't post these threads since even a theoretical or hypothetical "devil's advocate-type" response as to why other Dems are doing/saying/thinking as they are is open to attack.
FloridaBlues
(4,684 posts)She has been at his side along time and has a great teacher by her side if this happens
Some Dems and pundits seem to forget this fact.
LisaL
(47,510 posts)She is already on the ticket.
lastlib
(28,613 posts)He is our candidate. He is the only one who has beaten TSF, and the only one who can defeat it again.
2naSalit
(103,809 posts)This is one of the wannabe fatal blows to democracy if it helps us lose.
DFW
(60,436 posts)How well has the country done since he has been in office? What has he said or done to give anyone reason to suspect he wouldn't continue the same course if re-elected? Plus--what has Trump said or done to give anyone reason to suspect he wouldn't cause as much damage as he did the first time?
I rest my case.
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