Rep. Angie Craig calls on President Biden to drop out

[ClearSky24]

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/06/angie-craig-biden-withdraw-minnesota-swing-district

Rep. Angie Craig (D-Minn.) on Saturday became the latest House Democrat calling on President Biden to exit the presidential race.

Why it matters: Craig is the first swing-district House Democrat to try to nudge Biden out amid concerns that his age will cause problems for Democrats running further down the ballot.

What she's saying: "Given what I saw and heard from the President during last week's debate in Atlanta, coupled with the lack of a forceful response from the President himself following that debate, I do not believe that the President can effectively campaign and win against Donald Trump," Craig said in a statement issued Saturday morning

[2naSalit]

1. I think we should take note...

Of all those calling for Joe to step aside. There is a message in this about them and we need to keep that in mind going forward.

[Renew Deal]

4. It will be most of them very soon.

We’re only seeing the brave few right now. The document shared yesterday by Brooklynite shows this goes deeper.

[rzemanfl]

8. Link please?

[Renew Deal]

18. ...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219109630

[shrike3]

32. Except that the media is already sharpening the knives for Kamala.

This is will not let up if Joe gets forced out.

[Renew Deal]

39. It assumes that Kamala is the solution

If Biden is out, there are going to be a few people looking for power and anything can happen.

[shrike3]

47. Don't you get it? It won't matter who is "chosen" by people who think they're smarter than us.

The press will do its thing. And the spineless Dems will roll up in a ball and say, "Please don't hurt me." Because that's what they seem to do best.

[Renew Deal]

73. There's no question that any Democrat will be attacked.

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[shrike3]

83. Oh yeah? So we can survive a dog pile just like this one?

Notwithstanding the fact that rebooting a campaign this late in the game would likely ensure defeat?

[Renew Deal]

84. That was a mistake.

I wrote problem but meant question. Not sure if I got autocorrected.

[Think. Again.]

35. Ah, yes, the report "...purportedly written by senior Democratic operatives..."

[rzemanfl]

74. Did Brooklynite post it?

[shrike3]

88. Yes.

[rzemanfl]

94. Does it begin "The case for...?"

[shrike3]

95. Yes.

[rzemanfl]

96. Thanks. I had to get away from the computer and apartment for a while.

Seems lacking in attribution, and, if true loyalty,

[Elessar Zappa]

11. They can do whatever they like.

Joe has said he’s staying in.

[EarlG]

13. Brave?

They’re throwing our presidential nominee under the bus four months before the election, with no viable plan to replace him, and no plan to unite the party. They’re advocating for chaos and failure.

[Cha]

78. TY, Well said. Thinking about themselves..

whereas Dems like Gov Whitmer, Gov Newsom, and Gov Hochul are thinking about Winning and Democracy.

[GiqueCee]

80. Barbara Boxer nailed it...

... when she said, "Spare me your five minutes of fame." I thought she was quite eloquent in expressing her contempt for those pitifully grasping for attention at Biden's expense. That error in judgement will come back to bite them in the butt.

[shrike3]

52. The craven few are doing it. They've figure this will somehow help their profile.

Nice that you want our campaign for the highest office to commit public suicide.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

61. "If you change a presidential nominee at this point in the game, the candidate loses."

I do want to see TFG re-elected

Link to tweet

[BootinUp]

65. You will be proven wrong. nt

[Torchlight]

71. Seems less like bravery, and more like exploitation

But I suppose bravery depends on the sides we choose.

[valleyrogue]

75. LOL!!!!

Name droppers don't impress me.

[Silent Type]

7. Are we talking about a retribution list?

[ARandomPerson]

14. something like that

[2naSalit]

19. Only if you call...

Taking their word with a truck load of salt and not voting for them in the future retribution.

[Silent Type]

21. That's a shame. I'm not much into eating/bashing our own for an honest opinion.

[2naSalit]

26. That's not the point...

But you know that.

[Think. Again.]

37. They are obviously not "our own".

[Voltaire2]

12. The meaning is that Democratic Party

leaders are losing confidence in Biden’s ability to run an effective campaign.

We need a political organization focused on winning, not loyalty to one individual.

[Elessar Zappa]

15. But that's the thing.

If we change nominees, we won’t win. It would tear the party apart for a long time.

[harumph]

22. I believe that's an overly pessimistic take. I hope whomever is the candidate will be supported.

[shrike3]

34. The media is already sharpening its knives for Kamala.

Axios reporter stated she will have "a lot to answer for" re her continued support of Joe. He tipped his hand as to what the line of attack will be. Or where it will start.

[LiberalFighter]

69. Overly pessimistic view?

There are so many factors involved in a national campaign.

A local municipal election or even a congressional district election have better odds if they have a few months to get their campaign going. A national campaign would be suicide.

[Voltaire2]

23. I doubt either of those assertions.

I think that, behind the scenes, negotiations on a unity candidate are already in progress or even complete, that there will be no bitter convention battle, and further that a younger ‘not Biden, not Trump’ candidate changes the election dynamics entirely in our favor.

[shrike3]

36. Won't matter. Media will continue along just like it has.

They're already sharpening their knives for Kamala. They will sharpen their knives for whomever else comes along.

Anybody who think otherwise is living in fantasyland. Sorry.

[Think. Again.]

41. Changing candidates at this point would be forfeiting the race.

[LiberalFighter]

70. It doesn't work that way.

District and at-large delegates vote. They were elected by district delegates at state conventions to represent specific candidates. They are bound to those candidates. Super delegates don't get to vote in the first round. Meaning congressional members and governors don't vote.

It would require a lot to happen for a new nominee to be elected. And there would be a lot of unhappy delegates if it happened.

[Silent Type]

17. +1.

[LiberalFighter]

67. A select few want to make a change after the bus has left.

They had the opportunity before the primaries began. They didn't push for someone viable to become the nominee and for the voters to decide.

Selecting a new candidate at this point in time will pose a severe disadvantage. Biden has financing, name recognition, campaign staff, supporters, a record, and more.

Anyone selected will not have a campaign operation Biden has. And they will only have about 77 days til election day. Two months and 16 days. Democratic National Convention begins August 19.

It also looks like a small number of people are trying to take the decision out of the hands of the delegates numbering over 4,500 delegates.

[oldsoftie]

81. You do realize that changes were made to several primaries to prevent that.

[LiberalFighter]

86. What changes. Which primaries?

[oldsoftie]

92. For one, FL canceled theirs.

There were other things done as well but I dont dare bring them up.

[LiberalFighter]

68. You are lumping all democratic "leaders" into one group

When the few identified are unknown and mostly not leaders.

[Think. Again.]

33. I agree.

[GoreWon2000]

38. They're trying to disenfranchise us and take our votes away

Shame on these traitor dems. tRump is 78. tRump is an unhinged lunatic trying to end democracy for good. What's wrong with these people! They're doing tRump's dirty work is what they're really doing. Shame on them.

[2naSalit]

45. Propaganda machine...

Is smokin' hot right now. I'm keeping my head down, I know who I voted for and I'm staying the course.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

59. Has any of these persons advocating the replacement of President Biden looked at ballot access laws?

Ballot access litigation is strange. There are traps that could be used to keep a replacement for President Biden off the ballot. The GOP will try to use any change in the party ticket to keep the Democratic candidate off the ballot. For example, the compromise with Ohio to get President Biden on the ballot may go away if the Democratic Party changes candidates.

Link to tweet

I've seen a lot of people telling me that this story means they think Biden is weak so they want him in the election. No...you're missing the goal here. What they are doing is declaring how they will conduct a coordinated lawfare campaign to screw the Democratic nominee.

First it will be this lawsuit. In close order various Republican AG's will sue the DNC on behalf of their citizens "who voted in good faith in the Primary for Joe Biden." Then they will launch coordinated campaigns to split the Democratic coalition. "See how they are treating Kamala?" "Why didn't they think California's governor leading the 3rd largest economy in the world should be nominee." it will be relentless and targeted to get people to stay home. Millions of dark money will go to third party candidates. Suddenly RFK Jr. will miraculously have the resources to get on every ballot...on and on and on.

They don't care who is on the ballot. They want us to spend time, money, and anger on each other and on defense so Trump simply strolls into the White House with 45% of the vote.

The Biden campaign needs to stop nevel gazing and get back in the fight. We all need to stop eating each other alive and remember the real enemy to our democracy is the one's cheering this on in Florida.

Link to tweet

Removing President Biden from the ticket will give the GOP and the Heritage Foundation grounds to try to keep any replacement off the ballot. Removing President Biden from the ballot is a very stupid idea

[2naSalit]

62. DING DING DING!!!

That is what's going on.

[Walleye]

2. These reps calling for him to drop out, why didn't they just go ahead and beat him in the primaries. Little late now.

I don’t like the way they’re completely disregarding the millions of people who voted for Joe in the primaries and have donated to him. Now these back benchers think they know better.

[Voltaire2]

16. Because we were consistently assured

at the time that Biden was just fine and that all the reports that perhaps he wasn’t were just republican propaganda or the nyt vendetta against him.

[Self Esteem]

29. So these reps never interacted with Biden?

Sounds like Rep. Craig isn't very good at her job if for the last three years, she never had a 1:1 with the President, and leader, of her party.

If I was a constituent, I'd be angry that she was that detached from her own president. Maybe enough to call for her to step down for someone more competent, who actually interacts with the President.

[shrike3]

40. Are you saying Biden's not fine?

[Think. Again.]

46. That's because he IS...

"...just fine and that all the reports that perhaps he wasn’t were just republican propaganda or the nyt vendetta against him."

[librechik]

3. Horse Shit.

And another thing, Democrats don't further Agism. Craig is not a real Democrat.

[jmbar2]

5. Respond to her - make your voices heard

[EarlG]

6. Angie Craig's contact information

She might appreciate hearing from voters rather than whatever cable news is spewing today.

https://craig.house.gov/contact

(Keep it civil.)

[shrike3]

55. The form will not allow me to comment. The portion requesting a state will not allow for anything but Minnesota.

They've either changed it, or they don't allow non-state resident to comment.

If anyone else has better luck, let me know.

[Ocelot II]

57. Phone calls might be more effective.

MN office: 651-846-2120
DC office: 202-225-2271

She also has a Xitter account if you are so inclined.

[shrike3]

58. I'm not on twitter. But a phone call is indeed an option.

[Ocelot II]

56. You have to enter your address to verify residence in her district

on the email form. Maybe snail mail or phone calls are more likely to get through.

[Silent Type]

9. Eat/bash her too. Wonder how many Democrats will remain untarnished after this?

[shrike3]

42. They're doing it to themselves.

[SocialDemocrat61]

49. Maybe they should stop bashing the president

[Silent Type]

50. Maybe they are concerned about Democrats losing across the board in 2024. I darn sure am.

[SocialDemocrat61]

53. Then they should campaign harder

Fight for the party instead of surrendering.

[dweller]

60. Your concern is noted

And noted
And noted
etc


✌🏻

[shrike3]

90. They're aiding and abetting a media tsunami set to do that anyway if we don't fight back.

And stick together.

[PatSeg]

10. "Lack of a forceful response from the President"???

He was out there the NEXT freaking day! He has been all over the place pushing back on the perception that he isn't up to the job. Who the f*ck is writing these talking points?

[2naSalit]

24. They want Superman...

Always something that isn't on the menu at this time.

[PatSeg]

27. Yes, they want some fantasy movie president

If they aren't witnessing a "forceful response", it is probably because the mainstream media can't be bothered to report on it.

[2naSalit]

30. That and...

People are still too accustomed to shouting bullshit and bluster filling in for actual strength and resolve.

I also think that the polls were an early indication that we were going to be relieved of all our trusted sources along the way.

Like I said earlier last week, keep your head on straight and don't lest the latest outrage get to you. And as others have said, keep your eyes on the prize, stay the course.

[PatSeg]

76. Good point

In recent years, republicans have turned campaigns into a damn circus, which was probably great for cable news ratings. Even before Trump, we had such clowns as Herman Cain, Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry, Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, and Rick Santorum. The 2012 lineup was like a really bad SNL sketch.

The republican party had created the perfect arena for the ultimate clown candidate, Donald J. Trump, and the mainstream media couldn't get enough of it. They don't want to go back to the old days when candidates talked about foreign policy, economics, and trade deficits. Who wants to listen to that boring stuff in the age of reality TV and social media?

Yeah, I'm keeping myself distracted with other stuff.

[2naSalit]

79. I'm rearranging my livingroom.

After yanking all that rectumware that was plugged into the wall, dominating an entire corner of the room in my tiny dwelling, I have the whole room to reinvent! My new "hotspot" unit is the size of a wallet.

And I am in the midst of a major purge so this is a good time to focus on that for a spell.

[PatSeg]

82. Oh, that sounds very constructive

Also a great metaphor for what we're going through.

I'm working on some vintage photos which I'm alternating with some product reviews for Amazon Vine. I really need to do some major purging too, but my energy levels have been rather low, so I'll put that off for another day (or another lifetime!). As I get older, I find I have to pace myself and accept that I some limitations.

[DFW]

25. I love Angie but we really disagree on this

I hope she comes around to stand firmly behind him when it’s clear he’s not going anywhere

[Autumn]

28. Perhaps her dropping out or resigning might be a good idea?

Not My rep but I have not heard her out there giving a forceful response to the bullshit the media is pulling.

[bigtree]

31. I call on her to step down instead.

...not really, but look at how it sounds.

She looked at Trump lying and threatening Americans and she gave him the win.

Lovely person, and fuck no. You don't get a do-over of the primary. You don't get to trash my vote and replace Pres. Biden with your fav.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

43. Who cares?

[SocialDemocrat61]

44. Never heard of her

If Lincoln had a congress like this there would still be a confederacy.

[Abstractartist]

48. Time to act

Primary her. Kick her and every turn coat DINO to the fucking curb. If this gets me kick out of DU, well so be it. I have been voting democrat longer then many of you have been alive. If these DINOs think attempting to replace a candidate 4 months away from an election will be a winning strategy, then they don’t deserve our attention or vote. In my humble opinion, President Joe Biden is and will be the only one who will defeat Trump this cycle.
Mr. President…. If you or any of your staff is reading this, my only suggestion is to concentrate on town hall style meeting in states that will get the 270. You will not win over deep red states, and a democrat will never be able to. Prove the media, the bay sayers, the DINOs all wrong. Don’t even look at the polls. They are bought and paid for… Remember Dick Morris and the for sure Romney victory…. Yeah I do…. Trump is a classless, sociopath, degenerate, multi- convicted felon, who is… ready for it…3 years younger and ACTUALLY showing signs of mental problems. Hey George Steppinwhatever? Did you ask Trump for an independent cognitive test? No? Ok you need to be boycotted along with the rest of the media and their sponsors. GO JOE…..YOU GOT THIS. YOU HAVE MORE BEHIND YOU THEN JUST THE FEW.

[LiberalFighter]

51. She is basing her decision on just the debate.

Not considering how he was at the watch party after the debate. The rally the following day. His interview. The explanation of the trips and cold that was provided.

I guess facts don't matter to a former "journalist".

[Ocelot II]

54. Very disappointing.

But I think she's part of the so-called Problem Solvers caucus along with Dean Phillips (have we heard from him yet?) and other "centrists." I'm in the district next door to hers so can't vote there, but she'll be hearing from me as a resident of her state, which she has just embarrassed.

[LiberalFighter]

72. Have to wonder if Dean Phillips is the reason she is trying to push Biden out?

[brooklynite]

85. No. It's 1) she's in a vulnerable LEAN-D District and 2) MN is moving into vulnerable territory for the President

[LiberalFighter]

89. That is all she has to offer to get support?

[brooklynite]

91. Not clear what you mean...

House members and their supporters have growing concern that Biden will be a drag on down-ticket races if voters aren't convinced he can win in November, and that puts our ability to take back the House at risk.

[LiberalFighter]

93. How are they helping their own campaign

By criticizing Biden? She and others should be highlighting the good Biden has done if they are wanting to help down ballot. That Biden is the reason their district has received any benefits. If they don't support Biden they are not supporting their constituents.

It should not be solely left up to Biden. County and State Democratic parties have a part too in supporting candidates.

Doing otherwise is helping Trump.

[Ocelot II]

97. Seems to me that these congresspeople are *creating* concern

among voters more than responding to it.

[BlueKota]

63. This kind of stuff needs to stop IMHO

the only things Democrats should be focusing on is beating Trump not fighting each other.

If some people feel strongly that President Biden should step down, then they need to have those conversations with him in private.

Not broadcasting it so publicly it turns parry members against each other, and diverts time and effort away from the main goal. We need to cut a potential dictatorship off at the knees, or all of this will be moot anyway.

[BootinUp]

64. I won't share my thoughts rt now. nt

[ImNotGod]

66. Its not up to us, its not up to any "concerned" Dems, its up to President Biden, the buck stops there. nt

[ColinC]

77. Each person who calls on him to drop out should be on our donation blacklist

…until their calls are reversed.

[mcar]

87. Who?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

98. Dems attacking Biden are 'doing more damage' than the debate: analyst

These attacks on President Biden are very stupid and only helping TFG. Why are supposed Democrats working to re-elect TFG?

Link to tweet

https://www.rawstory.com/biden-debate-2668695029/

After stating Biden needs to get in front of voters more, she told the MSNBC hosts, "I would suggest that the response of that very small number of Democrats that have really come out after the president, and some of the media folks that have really come down on him since the election have done more damage and more harm than the president himself did during that debate."

"For me, and millions of Americans like me, this election is about the future of our country. It is about democracy, it is about getting away from the imperialistic, criminal presidency of Donald Trump and making sure that our children have a future that we can feel good about and be proud of," she explained.

She added, "It naive to think that at this point in the process you can switch candidates and still defeat Donald Trump. It is naive to think that the Democratic party will come out of a contested convention more united and stronger than they are today. "

"I think there is a lot more damage being done by folks other than Joe Biden when you look at how folks are reacting to this," she concluded.