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LetMyPeopleVote

(179,869 posts)
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 04:08 PM Jul 2024

President Biden's annual physical in February which specifically says he had a neurological exam

President Biden had a full physical back in February which included a full neurological exam




The media is in straight dereliction of duty by not sharing this portion of President Biden’s annual physical in February which specifically says he had a neurological exam which ruled out Parkinson’s or any other disorder that would impact his cognitive function.

It also points out that President Biden has peripheral neuropathy in his feet which can make a person’s feet go numb and makes stairs and whatnot more difficult.

Disgraceful MAGA latches on to every stumble and misstep and ignores that President Biden suffers from something that affects MILLIONS of people, just to push their BS narrative.







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President Biden's annual physical in February which specifically says he had a neurological exam (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 OP
THANK YOU! elleng Jul 2024 #1
Kick dalton99a Jul 2024 #2
I don't understand why there is so much talk about Parkinson's? Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #3
Parkinson's can impact both motor skills and cognitive ability. n/t Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #4
Yes but there are many illnesses which can cause these problems. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #6
Many people are saying it's once again an example of projection by traitortrump. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2024 #12
Parkinsons is a well know name by the public. hadEnuf Jul 2024 #20
There was some Parkinson guy at the WH cuz Biden signed a Parkinson proclamation or something or other. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #14
Thanks. Seems like a bit of a stretch. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #17
Some of the less than bright Dems in my area are jumping on the Parkinson's bandwagon. shrike3 Jul 2024 #15
That raises another medication-related question for me. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #5
I take 600 mg per day of gabapentin for ideopathic neuropathy Mosby Jul 2024 #7
Not necessarily diabetic. Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #8
Could be back issues Mossfern Jul 2024 #11
Anything can cause PN. Sounds like he has a localized, physical cause LeftInTX Jul 2024 #18
Yeah but peripheral neuropathy affects hands also Mosby Jul 2024 #22
You can have it localized in lower extremities. I've had it myself. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #24
That crossed my mind, although PN has other causes, as well. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #21
His meds are listed. Doesn't sound like he's taking anything for PN. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #16
Thanks - you're right gabapentin isn't on the list. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #23
I take 3600 mg daily! LeftInTX Jul 2024 #25
It's one of the most varied drugs I've run into, in terms of effect on the user. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #26
Lyrica made me into zombie. I had erythromelalgia or some type of bizarre PN. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #29
Haven't had the pleasure of lyrica. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #31
I totally get why he's taking Pepcid... Hugin Jul 2024 #35
It Affected My Speech ProfessorGAC Jul 2024 #27
It is such a weird medication. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #28
I Didn't Stay On It ProfessorGAC Jul 2024 #32
Until we were able to get rid of the vertigo, Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #33
I was on gabapentin, slightlv Jul 2024 #9
What the Yellow Journalists are doing now BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 #10
".. Even the NY Post"! TY, LMPV! Cha Jul 2024 #13
I remember... GiqueCee Jul 2024 #19
K&R Blue Owl Jul 2024 #30
President Bidens health summary is public LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #34

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
6. Yes but there are many illnesses which can cause these problems.
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 05:15 PM
Jul 2024

I didn't understand why they picked Parkinsons to focus on.

I also have not seen Biden displaying motor skill problems.
Maybe I missed it.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
12. Many people are saying it's once again an example of projection by traitortrump.
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 05:27 PM
Jul 2024

Every accusation is a confession, after all. Plenty of evidence of that.

hadEnuf

(3,616 posts)
20. Parkinsons is a well know name by the public.
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 06:11 PM
Jul 2024

It makes a better weapon than some disease whose name you can't even pronounce.

LeftInTX

(34,295 posts)
14. There was some Parkinson guy at the WH cuz Biden signed a Parkinson proclamation or something or other.
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 05:47 PM
Jul 2024

Sorry about my horrible grammar, but I think you get the idea. It was some presidential declaration or maybe it was a bill he signed.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
17. Thanks. Seems like a bit of a stretch.
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 06:00 PM
Jul 2024

Biden has all kinds of people at the WH for different reasons.
Trying those visits to a possible dx is a big reach.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
15. Some of the less than bright Dems in my area are jumping on the Parkinson's bandwagon.
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 05:54 PM
Jul 2024

"My husband had Parkinson's and I know what it looks like."

Ms. Toad

(38,639 posts)
5. That raises another medication-related question for me.
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 05:09 PM
Jul 2024

Gabapentin is a medication frequently used for peripheral neuropathy. It can scramble your brain. I was on it for vertigo for a year, and it definitely scrambled my brain.

I'm not saying he's in it, just that it is a common treatment for the condition he was diagnosed with.

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
7. I take 600 mg per day of gabapentin for ideopathic neuropathy
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 05:16 PM
Jul 2024

Last edited Sat Jul 6, 2024, 05:55 PM - Edit history (1)

It has zero side effects for me, though I am sort of blaming it for weight gain, lol.

I'm more concerned that he's diabetic. Wonder how long that's been going on?

Eta apparently his a1c is fine, so he doesn't have diabetes. I wonder what caused his neuropathy? The report said it's stable, I wish mine was.

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
8. Not necessarily diabetic.
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 05:19 PM
Jul 2024

My grandma has peripheral neuropathy and her blood glucose is fine.

LeftInTX

(34,295 posts)
18. Anything can cause PN. Sounds like he has a localized, physical cause
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 06:04 PM
Jul 2024

Diabetes would be a systemic cause.

Physical causes are radiculopathy, injury, bad shoes, foot issues, toe injuries, morton's neuroma etc. I've had all of the above.

Sounds like he has radiculopathy from the degenerative changes in his spine.

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
22. Yeah but peripheral neuropathy affects hands also
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 06:19 PM
Jul 2024

And other extremities. Mortons neuroma is a completely different thing, and it can be cured. Nerve damage can't be cured.

I've had ideopathic neuropathy for for about 10 years and it's making my life miserable.

LeftInTX

(34,295 posts)
24. You can have it localized in lower extremities. I've had it myself.
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 06:52 PM
Jul 2024

I still have it. My toes are swell and burn. I also have radiculopathy.
Morton's neuroma can be cured for some and not others.

In the president's physical exam, they include the PN with his orthopedic assessment. They only mention his feet and it appears to be in conjunction with degenerative changes to his spine.

My dad was getting numbness in both hands and he thought he had carpal tunnel and I told him it was strange. So we thought he may have something more serious going on. Then, a few months later we found out it was secondary to when a car fell on his neck years prior. So, my dad had a radiculopathy...Radiculopathy can cause peripheral neuropathy symptoms.

Carpal tunnel syndrome is an example of peripheral neuropathy.


Radiculopathy symptoms may overlap with those of peripheral neuropathy, making it difficult to pinpoint the source of the problem. Peripheral neuropathy is the damage of the peripheral nervous system, such as carpal tunnel syndrome that involves trapped nerves in the wrist. Radiculopathy is the pinching of the nerves at the root, which sometimes can also produce pain, weakness and numbness in the wrist and hand. Consult a spine specialist for an accurate diagnosis

https://www.arnolditkin.com/blog/injury/radiculopathy-vs-neuropathy/

TBH: He seems like he has "old guy" spine issues. Neuropathy diagnosis and differentiation can get really complicated. It sounds like his doctor isn't worried. So it sounds like degenerative issues of his spine. Remember he was in the awful car accident. Keep in mind his doctor is not a neurologist and isn't going to do a deep dive into something that is being managed with physical therapy etc.


He mentions that nerve root compression does not warrant specific treatment.

So by that he's meaning medical treatment such as medications, surgery, epidural steroid etc. Exercise and physical therapy are not considered "medical" treatments by doctors, but part of "healthy living".

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Health-Summary-2.28.pdf

Ms. Toad

(38,639 posts)
21. That crossed my mind, although PN has other causes, as well.
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 06:19 PM
Jul 2024

The diabetes that runs I'm our family is not dependent on weight - Biden has roughly the same skinny build as my grandfather, uncle, and cousin. It's also relatively benign.

That's one of the reasons I'm not concerned even if he has diabetes. Zero history of heart disease in our family. My uncle died at 95-ish, my mother is 92, my grandfather died in his 70s, but from leukemia (unrelated condition). My cousin and I are in our 60s. All of us with diabetes. It isn't necessarily as dire as the medical profession makes it out to be. (I suspect that some day we will find that T2 diabetes is really a collection of similar, but distinct conditions, some of which are as bad as they say, and others very mild).

Biden had neuropathy at least a year ago, since they compared both tactile and hot/cold sensation areas to last year's results.

As to gabapentin, how it impacts people varies a lot. I used a cane the entire year because it threw my balance off enough that I fell a lot (the vertigo it was treating never impacted my balance - although it scrambled my brain differently - and more severely). I also had to write off lot of time at work because it took me longer to process information, and complex thinking was much harder. It wasn't fair to pass that added cost on to the client. And I never felt right when I was on it.

LeftInTX

(34,295 posts)
16. His meds are listed. Doesn't sound like he's taking anything for PN.
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 05:59 PM
Jul 2024


Notes say that he has been receiving physical therapy.

Ms. Toad

(38,639 posts)
23. Thanks - you're right gabapentin isn't on the list.
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 06:27 PM
Jul 2024

I've got some PTSD from my time on it. It is amazing how many people pay no attention to where their bodies are, relative to others. The worst was when summer jerk on the escalator started shoving people to get them to walk down, rather than riding - just as I was approaching the bottom step. I narrowly avoided a face plant, and being trampled by people the escalator was continuing to move toward me.

So I react strongly to just thinking about gabapentin - and I know PN is one of the common uses for it.

Ms. Toad

(38,639 posts)
26. It's one of the most varied drugs I've run into, in terms of effect on the user.
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 06:58 PM
Jul 2024

Probably on of the reasons It's used for such a variety of conditions (epilepsy, nerve pain, shingles, restless leg, hot flashes, mood disorders, alcohol addiction).

It would take a lot to convince me to take it again.

LeftInTX

(34,295 posts)
29. Lyrica made me into zombie. I had erythromelalgia or some type of bizarre PN.
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 07:03 PM
Jul 2024

They gave me that. It took care of it, but it made me a zombie. Fortunately, the problem resolved itself after a few years and I didn't need it anymore.

Ms. Toad

(38,639 posts)
31. Haven't had the pleasure of lyrica.
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 07:11 PM
Jul 2024

The vertigo I had was an unusual kind (combination of one-sided hearing loss, multiple neck, upper back muscle injuries on the same side that made it impossible for me to turn my head completely to the left, and aging (so my body doesn't adapt as well). So it took a while to rule out other causes and figure out how to get rid of it.

I got a swirly brain several times a day, lasting 30 seconds to maybe 2 minutes. And a very low functioning (compared to norm) brain 24/7. The gabapentin made me dizzy (off-balance, but without the brain swirl - in a sense it externalized the vertigo, leaving me much more prone to falling), but also scrambled my brain in a different way. On balance, the gabapentin left me more functional than the untreated vertigo. But I was very glad when the only physical therapist I've ever found useful was able to restore full muscle function - which got rid of the vertigo (and allowed me to get off the gabapentin).

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
27. It Affected My Speech
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 07:00 PM
Jul 2024

Not all the time, but late in the day, I slurred a bit. Like I was drunk, but I barely drink. I took at as an aid to the burning sensation in the feet & lower legs due to MS.
It didn't cause a brain fog or anything, but I didn't sound like i was with it.
I noticed it on my own outgoing voicemail message. I re-recorded it in the morning, as I only took Gabepentin after dinner.

Ms. Toad

(38,639 posts)
28. It is such a weird medication.
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 07:03 PM
Jul 2024

I'm not aware that it impacted my speech (aside from the increased difficulty in focus). I'd have to find historical records - but the year I was on gabapentin may be the period when I'd type out sentences, then go back and read them later only to discover that whole words were missing. Not garbled words - just complete words not typed out.

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
32. I Didn't Stay On It
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 07:19 PM
Jul 2024

The sensations in my lower legs weren't bad enough to accept people thinking I was hammered. Geez, I started drinking low alcohol beers 30+ years ago!
Since I got calls all hours of the day & night from 9 different time zones, I couldn't have people getting the wrong impression.
I just quit renewing the scrip.

Ms. Toad

(38,639 posts)
33. Until we were able to get rid of the vertigo,
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 07:25 PM
Jul 2024

I was more functional on it than off. I'm grateful the vertigo only lasted a year.

slightlv

(7,790 posts)
9. I was on gabapentin,
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 05:19 PM
Jul 2024

and before that Lyrica (which is basically the same thing). I can't say I felt it scrambled my brain... just gave me brain fog. Much like I get when I'm having a fibro or lupus flare. I wasn't impressed with the gaba, and I gained 30 pounds in two months on Lyrica. When I came off Lyrica, I started losing weight (and haven't stopped yet). It seemed to turn on/off some weight gain/loss switch in me. It was really weird. It was also strange that my best friends daughter started Lyrica at the same time as I did, gained just as much weight in the same amount of time, and when she went off it she started losing the weight like crazy, just like I did.

BumRushDaShow

(169,760 posts)
10. What the Yellow Journalists are doing now
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 05:19 PM
Jul 2024

is insinuating that the exam was "covered up" and only disclosed now, despite being part of his annual physical that was released back then.

GiqueCee

(4,259 posts)
19. I remember...
Sat Jul 6, 2024, 06:06 PM
Jul 2024

... when the Republican slime machine attacked John McCain's adopted daughter, Dubya laughed it off to his face, saying, "It's just politics, John!"

More accurately, it's just Republicans' prostitution of politics. And politics is just the prostitution of statesmanship, which is, for all intents and purposes, and practically speaking, extinct.

So here we are, with a convicted felon, pathological liar, misogynist bully, child rapist, fraudster, grifter, and FUCKING TRAITOR still a viable contender for the Oval Office. How the mighty have fallen, that such a despicable turd of a man (literally and figuratively) could rise so far.

And people wonder why I live in a constant state of simmering rage.

I did me a fair amount of journalism for a small weekly back in the day, along with several dozen feature articles that I also illustrated. Now, I'm not so sure that I want to associate myself with that once honorable profession, considering the way it has been perverted by corporatists.

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