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[elleng]

1. FYI, President Biden's annual physical in February which specifically says he had a neurological exam.

which ruled out Parkinson’s or any other disorder that would impact his cognitive function.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219113005

[FarPoint]

5. Thank you...

I am so over these intrusive, mis-informational posts here lately....

[ALBliberal]

22. Parkinson's diagnoses isn't like a blood test

Geez. I knew this would happen. Me sort of “defending” the worst of possible knews.

I’ll give it a bit of time until the post is knocked down. At this poi almost welcome that.

[Silent Type]

2. +1. That is not the worst diagnosis. But it sure reminds me of Ali. Even then, he was still bright

pretty much to the end. That’s exactly who I thought of on the night of debate. Made me sad, again.

[FarPoint]

7. He has no diagnosis of Parkinsons.

Don't feed into this nonsense....it's done on purpose....

[Silent Type]

26. Pretty sure Biden said last night that he "hasn't had any cognitive tests/exams, and doesn't need one." Now he had one.

I don't know what is going on, but some advisers at least need to get the stories straight.

[Bev54]

31. He didn't have cognitive tests but he had neurological tests in Feb during his annual exam

he had no issues. As he said he has cognitive tests daily with his job as president of the US.

[Silent Type]

38. Neurological tests -- EEGs, etc., -- are cognitive tests. Why say you didn't have one, when you did?

Drawing a clock or hammer is not what we are talking about here.

[Bev54]

47. Absolutely not the same thing.

[Silent Type]

58. Look up tests for cognitive and neurological impairments.

[Think. Again.]

50. Neurological tests and cognitive are not the same tests and do not test for the same impairments.

[Silent Type]

60. If the National Institutes of Health call an EEG a cognitive test, I'm not quarelling with them. The draw a clock and

remember 3 words cognitive tests that take a minute or two would not allow a doctor to rule out any neurological condition.

Hell, trump passed one of those supposedly.

In any event, why say you've never had one when you did.

[Think. Again.]

64. Neurological tests deal with the physical condition of the physical brain...

Cognitive tests deal with how the physical brain processes non-physical information, otherwise referred to as the mind.

They are two different areas of study and President Biden fully understands the difference and responded appropriately.

Just because his appropriate response isn't understood by others (yourself), that does not indicate a deficiency in HIS cognitive abilites.

[Hekate]

33. He had an annual physical in February and one of the tests was that. Read that here today.

Last night I read someone in the media was saying Joe’s WH doctor was some no-name in the shadows that nobody had ever heard of.

So which is it? Advisors who don’t have godlike powers of recall, or what?

[Silent Type]

36. And had cognitive tests and likely an MRI, EEG, etc. Why say you haven't had one, if you did?

[Think. Again.]

48. Neurological tests and cognitive are not the same tests...

...and do not test for the same impairments.

[Hekate]

51. Did Joe say that? Or was it one of his aides? Goddam what a cover-up. I am glad you are on top of it.

[getagrip_already]

55. Since he has had cancer in the past....

You can be sure he gets a battery of medical tests, including brain scans.

But those aren't cognitive tests. And he is correct, he doesn't need one.

The one they gave to the orange plantstand is only given to patients they are evaluating for confined care; people who are unable to live independently.

It would not pick up normal aging.

[yellowdogintexas]

59. do you suppose it was just one of the many meetings he has with eleventy billion groups?

Medical and otherwise. Just wondering

[FarPoint]

62. I don't folllow your question...

[FarPoint]

3. Just stop this nonsense flaimbait now ....you apparently took the bait.

May you re-evaluate the message....

troll farms are known to post things like a friendly, concerned peer...

see this video I posted today explaining this:

Great eduation with this video...

https://democraticunderground.com/100219112163

[Meadowoak]

4. More propaganda, will it ever stop?

[Hekate]

53. Apparently not

[emulatorloo]

6. Are you aware that President Biden signed the National Plan to End Parkinson's Act into law four days ago?

President Biden Signs Parkinson's Bill into Law
Jul 03, 2024

https://www.parkinson.org/blog/awareness/national-plan

I think these ridiculous rumors that Joe Biden has Parkinson’s disease because somebody on his staff met with a parkinson specialist are because of a misunderstanding and ignorance of the fact that the Biden admin had been working hard on getting this bill into law.

[ALBliberal]

9. Very much so. That was my first comment to my friend

and is sent her the link.

[FarPoint]

13. So you continue with gossip and bring it here to DU?

Why?

[Bobstandard]

39. This is a good question

OP is shamefully weak on sourcing.

[emulatorloo]

14. Please read what I just added to my post.

I think these ridiculous rumors that Joe Biden has Parkinson’s disease because somebody on his staff met with a parkinson specialist are because of a misunderstanding and ignorance of the fact that the Biden admin had been working hard on getting this bill into law.

[FarPoint]

11. Are you his physician?

If not...you can not go down this path....stop please. This is troll flame bait that many are feeding their addiction with of late...

He, Biden has no diagnosis...end of message.

[ALBliberal]

15. Never claimed to be. Report me let the jury knock it down.

Do you think this is welcome news to me.

But it is being reported by The Guardian and other outlets.

I wont be surprised if my post is juried (knocked out). But I still felt the need to post.

[FarPoint]

17. I do hope the jury takes a close peek

I don't encourage malicious gossip.

[emulatorloo]

19. Maybe you didn't mean to reply to me? I think the press is "confused."

I think these ridiculous rumors that Joe Biden has Parkinson’s disease just because somebody on his staff met with a parkinson specialist are because of a misunderstanding and ignorance of the fact that the Biden admin had been working hard on getting this bill into law.

In other words I do not believe Biden has been diagnosed w Parkinson’s or has Parkinson’s.

[FarPoint]

21. OK...

I'm fired up....

[emulatorloo]

24. Confirming: I do not believe Biden has been diagnosed w Parkinson's or has Parkinson's. I think these

reports are bullshit/reporters stupidly jumping to conclusions.

[yellowdogintexas]

61. Thank you I figured it was related to the group in some way. It just did not sound like a

physican thing.

[ALBliberal]

12. Also reported by The Guardian

[FarPoint]

16. Can you say.....

malicious gossip 10 times?

And you NEVER post a link... I can't just take your word for it.

[niyad]

66. Link, please.

[Deuxcents]

10. No flaming from me. President Biden has the best health care and he is taking advantage of it

As he should. I wish Democrats, especially, would stop reading into news reports like FOX does..everything has a negative connotation. We cannot fall into the trap that the GOP has set in the past and that is..defeat ourselves. Very disheartening to read some of these posts here

[LisaL]

18. Why spread rumors?

He doesn't have Parkinsons.

[ALBliberal]

25. Really after 20 plus years on this forum I am a

concerned troll?

[niyad]

49. Your "member since" reads 25 Feb 2014, so I am guessing you had

another user name before?

[Hekate]

54. Seems like it

[ALBliberal]

69. Yes. Changed my "name" but hey

Been on the forum from bush days

But I guess even at 10 years I am suspect

[Hekate]

27. WHAT "diagnosis" are you even talking about?! There was a WH meeting of medical specialists?

And from this some rando is positing a “diagnosis” ?

Before I completely blow my stack, let me just say I hope your Dad is getting the best of treatment and responding well. But he is not the President.

[emulatorloo]

28. There is precedence for this - false rumors Hillary had parkinson's disease in 2016

This is just a repeat of that nonsense imho.

Did a Physician Confirm Hillary Clinton Has Parkinson's Disease?
A montage of photos and video clips of Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton purportedly demonstrates she has symptoms of Parkinson's disease.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-has-parkinsons-disease

We have shown that what Ted Noel did in this video is systematically misrepresent perfectly ordinary and explicable phenomena as "Parkinson's disease symptoms," and his motivation for doing so was purely political.

[LisaL]

29. Exactly.

Press also claimed she was near death when she had a cough before an election, and might need to be replaced for health reasons.
Obviously she is alive and well to this day, so she wasn't near death in 2016.

[emulatorloo]

42. Yes many stories about how Hillary was on death's door. (in reality she had walking pneumonia)

Same old shit from the rightwing noise machine, different day.

[niyad]

30. "No matter his diagnosis"??? That assumes there IS a diagnosis needed.

The yammering of the chattering class about his "condition" is not prescriptive.

[JanMichael]

32. I don't get why people are attacking you for this.

I think it's because of the quote unquote "his diagnosis" but that said Parkinson's is predominantly a physical issue not a mental issue.

It's pretty awful but it does not attack people's brains.

It sounds like you explain to your friend that you would crawl through glass for Biden.

I wouldn't consider that troll behavior like some have been insinuating.

[LisaL]

34. I don't think you are familiar with Parkinson's.

It's not just a "physical issue." But that is neither here nor there, because Biden doesn't have it.

[JanMichael]

40. I probably simplified it too much.

Yes it does impact the brain but it varies greatly between people. It's a weird one for sure. Certainly better than dementia. Better being wholly subjective.

And no I don't think Biden has it

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

37. Research Parkinson's more deeply. Your understanding is, I believe, completely wrong. nt

[LisaL]

43. It is wrong to claim that Parkinson's only causes physical symptoms.

But again, Biden doesn't have it.

[JanMichael]

44. Already addressed it. Thank you for your concern.

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

57. Thank you for partially correcting your medical information on Parkinson's.

Although, I am concerned when false medical information is stated as fact.

"Parkinson’s disease is a brain disease"

" However, around a third of people with Parkinson's eventually develop dementia"

https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/about-dementia/types-dementia/parkinsons-disease

[LeftInTX]

35. Biden doesn't even have mild tremors

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

46. It seems that is not always a symptom. Often, even if later there is a tremor, in the early stages it can be absent. nt

[Think. Again.]

41. I don't understand...

You are claiming facts and reality are important to you and yet you are planting a suspicion of Parkinsons disease based on absolutely nothing?

[LisaL]

45. Yea, a talk with some friend.

No links.

[Think. Again.]

56. What's next?

"My cousin told me that Biden's dog is actually a cat from a different dimension attempting to take control of the lost city of Atlantis, so the vet gives the dog hallucingenics to confuse him which Biden has been seen licking, but I'm not sure I believe it".

[usonian]

52. Study proves that ice cream sharpens your brain.

Posting preliminary results. More later.

Promising:
New Study Finds That Eating Ice Cream For Breakfast Improves Your Brain Power

http://www.sickchirpse.com/new-study-finds-that-eating-ice-cream-for-breakfast-improves-your-brain-power/

Ice cream haas long been thought of as a delicious comfort food that is notoriously bad for you, but a new study has found that it might actually improve your wellbeing by increasing your brainpower.

The study was conducted in Japan by Professor Yoshihiko Koga at Tokyo’s Kyorin University. Koga asked his sample set of volunteers – who were no doubt eager to participate in one of the most awesome clinical trials of all time – to eat ice cream as soon as they woke up and compared their brain characteristics with those who didn’t eat ice cream.

The results were plain to see. The subjects’ brains exhibited an increase in high-frequency alpha waves – these are associated with enhanced alertness and reduced mental irritation. They were also required to perform a series of exercises using a PC, and those that had eaten ice cream displayed faster reaction times and superior information processing capabilities.

And this from the Doctoral exam at the Princeton Institute for Advanced Study



Drumpf would fail it.

[niyad]

63. I remember a friend, same age then as President Biden is now, drank herself to

death because her Parkinson's did not respond to any treatment, conventional or otherwise (including an extremely risky, experimental brain surgery). She could no longer garden (she was a master gardener), nor could she paint (she was an amazing landscape artist), and she just wanted to die.

So, when I see a long-distance, non-professional, evidence-free, "diagnosis" , remembering my friend, I get a little upset.

[Hekate]

65. A lot of this thread from the OP on down has been just ghastly. I can't believe this is here...

…and that it is left to stand.

[niyad]

67. Sadly, nothing here since Thursday night has surprised me.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

68. Agree. It needs to go. nt