Finers crossed everyone. It's not leading the news now but if Joe pulls off a Gaza ceasefire, game changer, we win the..

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the election. It's a matter of high pressure gamesmanship to keep netanyahu and the Hamas head, as they have done so often, from backing away from the negotiations, said to be on the grink of suceess.

[NoRethugFriends]

1. Nothing is anywhere near that simplistic

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6. Of course it's not simplistic but success will be a big feather in the Biden/Blinken team's cap.

And will help election chances.

[WarGamer]

2. And I thought the US wasn't even a direct party in the negotiations...

I thought it was Turkey, Qatar, Egypt and the Saudis...

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5. Come on, Wargamer, you really don't think the US has an influence on the negotiations?

If success, no matter what, it'll be a big feather in the Biden/Blinken team's cap.

[WarGamer]

9. I think the US has ZERO influence on Hamas...

And the influence on Bibi... the US is one of a half dozen Western powers leaning on Bibi to find peace.

[JohnSJ]

3. Don't count on it. The media has had knives out for President Biden since he ran for election in 2020.

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7. The media will have to report a success, so fu_k them.

[JohnSJ]

10. They will report it alright, but I doubt they will highlight it.

[Kingofalldems]

4. I see the MAGAts sure as hell wouldn't like it.

So go Joe!

[BoRaGard]

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[Think. Again.]

11. Yep, bringing down one of the biggest current rightwing activities....

...would be a game changer!

[stopdiggin]

12. vastly overstated (IMO)

Sadly - (and perhaps completely unjustly) - I think a Gaza truce is about a week to 10 day story. (and that might be overselling .. )

Game over? Not by abut a thousand miles.

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14. Overrated? Finally a ceasefire in the biggest outbreak in hostilities in the ME in decades? Nah.

I don't think b oth the Jewish community and the large Musllin population in Michigan, a critcal battlegroud state would agree with you.

[stopdiggin]

23. yes. that is my honest opinion

With all due respect for those that are heavily invested here (and I mean those words sincerely) - I just don't think that sentiment, or anything even close, holds sway with the larger population.

One of those things where I would be absolutely delighted to be proven wrong - and all manner of credit accrue to those deserving ... Fingers crossed - and may it be so!

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24. Everyone has an opinion. Yours I don't think holds sway with most people.

[WA-03 Democrat]

13. Joe's strength is foreign polcy

If any one can do this it is President Biden!

Drop Out Don!

[JI7]

15. Not a good idea to put hopes of winning on this issue

And remember first Bush and the gulf war ?

It still comes down to abortion rights and related issues. And economy, environment, gun control etc.

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16. It'll be a big feather in the Biden/Blinken teams cap. Everything is not resting on just that.

Women's rights, infractructure etc. all witl help.

[JI7]

21. I think it will help more with the "is he too old" bs

that it can show he is up to the job .

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22. Yes. So important.

[karynnj]

17. Reading some of the Israeli media, especially Haaretz, it might be unlikely

It is not in Netanyahu's interest. It seems he hoped that Hamas would reject any deal and would get the blame. It is clear the Israeli military is for the ceasefire and the war cabinet unanimously approved it - meaning including Netanyahu. I would not be surprised if Netanyahu wants to push it until the US election, where he very likely hopes Trump will win.

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18. Netanyahu has always been the one to worry about. He knows his corrupt behind goes to court if there's a ceasefire.

The IDF and a majority of Israeli people want it over and the surviving hostages home but he just cares about himself.

[Takket]

19. Bibi wants drumpf to be president. he's totally going to "lucy with the football" any peace effort to hurt Biden

[spanone]

20. K&R for PEACE

[Mosby]

25. It's significant that Hamas is possibly entertaining a deal

Like the one already agreed to by Netanyahu and Biden.

Hamas is slowly understanding that Israel isn't going to commit to a permanent ceasefire until all the hostages are released.

[NickB79]

26. You vastly overestimate how many Americans care about Gaza

It's not even in the top 20 concerns in most polls.

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27. Perhaps, but maybe it's not most Americans who matter. It's the battleground states and EC votes...

and Michigan with it's large Musli/Arab population is one. They care, as do states with large Jewish demographic.

Can ifnore the details. The smallest thing might be the one to get us across the finish line.