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karin_sj

(1,385 posts)
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 07:59 PM Jul 2024

Wow! People are really pissed at the New York Times!

People on Threads were saying that the Times Threads account was deactivated. Then a couple of hours later, they came back. And the people were ready for them and lambasted them with no mercy. First time I checked, there were 2,000 comments, now 3,500 and I'm sure it will continue to grow. I wonder if they'll slink away again...


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Wow! People are really pissed at the New York Times! (Original Post) karin_sj Jul 2024 OP
I'm really glad!!! It's about time. BComplex Jul 2024 #1
the NYT is like a middle school mean girl, verbally assaulting anyone that doesn't kiss her ass.. agingdem Jul 2024 #21
The NYT needs to be fed a jawbreaker ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 2024 #39
Time for the "tired of you" quote to the NYT ... quote from movie "The Drop" NotHardly Jul 2024 #73
People that read the NYT tend to be liberal leaning JI7 Jul 2024 #2
That doesn't automatically guarantee babylonsister Jul 2024 #3
Owners tend to be quite conservative -- after all, they're rich and don't want to pay taxes. eppur_se_muova Jul 2024 #22
I think that's a perfect analysis of the layers of the NYT (and other media) owners - down to consumers. erronis Jul 2024 #23
Just passing on what I've read about the press in general. The original was not focused on NYT, or any single outlet. nt eppur_se_muova Jul 2024 #56
That's because the others can't read. Think. Again. Jul 2024 #27
It's time for a real grass roots uprising against astroturfing M$M. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2024 #4
Yes! Absolutely! StarryNite Jul 2024 #12
other than the fake grass which is used in stadiums, what does that mean? AllaN01Bear Jul 2024 #31
I'm finding this somewhat helpful. ShazzieB Jul 2024 #44
It's a fake grass roots movement, also known as "stealth marketing"... Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2024 #47
Great post. I didn't know there was such a thing. raccoon Jul 2024 #50
Pretty sure Brooks Brothers protest SomedayKindaLove Jul 2024 #80
The "Tea Party" is a great example. Ursus Rex Jul 2024 #52
i wonder of koch is funding maga..? AllaN01Bear Jul 2024 #64
Wish we could figure out a way to take the fizz out of the kochs. calimary Jul 2024 #75
mlady. i have been hoping that big monies would be removed with the help of the fec. but when the suprimes approved AllaN01Bear Jul 2024 #76
-Well, David's dead, so he isn't. But Charley with his fake smile almost certainly is soldierant Jul 2024 #82
thanks . if we had a definitons section , this should be in it. somone else pinged me and ill check them out AllaN01Bear Jul 2024 #63
The comment above senseandsensibility Jul 2024 #5
I hope the commenters are as relentless as NYtimes has been on Biden Bev54 Jul 2024 #6
You'll be pleased to know that they are! karin_sj Jul 2024 #65
K&R Blue Owl Jul 2024 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author DoBW Jul 2024 #8
I cancelled my subscription today, gonna miss wordle, but that's all. mama Jul 2024 #9
Wordle karin_sj Jul 2024 #10
I canceled mine a couple of weeks ago and still get limited access to games, including Wordle. Nt Trueblue Texan Jul 2024 #14
Just google "wordle" and pick any of the other free wordle sites. Think. Again. Jul 2024 #30
You don't need a subscription for Wordle. madaboutharry Jul 2024 #41
Spouse canceled ours too! NoveltySocks Jul 2024 #42
Wow! That a beautiful sight! StarryNite Jul 2024 #11
Good to see Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2024 #13
I saw the same criticism on TikTok. It's a good thing. live love laugh Jul 2024 #15
I love it! Michelle Goldberg was on Rev Al's show spouting the anti-Biden flamingdem Jul 2024 #16
Couldn't believe she said that. shrike3 Jul 2024 #54
All the commenters should read the Politico article from a few months ago. valleyrogue Jul 2024 #17
A valid, and not-used-often-enough arguement for taxing estates highly Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #62
these fascist-enablers, they always overreach Skittles Jul 2024 #18
All the news that's fit SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2024 #19
WOW! That is a gem of an assesment of the situation. Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #58
You're too kind! SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2024 #61
Not too kind so much as I live by a rule: If I take time to complain, I am obligated to take time to give praise Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #67
Succinct and to the point! Love it! N/T Dem_in_Nebr. Jul 2024 #74
The NYT can fuck off. BigDemVoter Jul 2024 #20
france we see and hear you! et tu Jul 2024 #24
UK and France!!! We are going to follow suit! japple Jul 2024 #32
The NYT is the rightwing AM radio of print media. Think. Again. Jul 2024 #25
Whoops, meant to reply to a different post Salviati Jul 2024 #36
Once a media publication has taken sides there is no going back. Aussie105 Jul 2024 #26
The NYT's deserves to be slammed peggysue2 Jul 2024 #28
Yes! We learned our lesson in 2016. Wasn't poor Hillary nearly dead from some sort of japple Jul 2024 #34
Dear God they were AWFUL to her. calimary Jul 2024 #35
Fool me once, shame on you. Sanity Claws Jul 2024 #68
That's not how GW said it! I laughed so hard when he said japple Jul 2024 #69
The Washington Post richdj25 Jul 2024 #29
I may have to join Threads, solely to give their bucket DemocraticPatriot Jul 2024 #33
We need your voice there! karin_sj Jul 2024 #66
Every little bit helps. llmart Jul 2024 #78
Partisan media aren't really 'news' outlets. Aussie105 Jul 2024 #37
I don't call them the 'Grey Old Lady' anymore ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 2024 #38
Grey Old Cabby? Dave Bowman Jul 2024 #45
I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't reply to that ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 2024 #57
Lol! :D Dave Bowman Jul 2024 #59
How many times has someone replied similarly? ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 2024 #60
Giggles Dem4life1234 Jul 2024 #46
Read some of the posts. They're brutal. Doing my happy dance. Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #40
When they deactivated Threads for those couple of hours, people just moved to their Instagram page NoveltySocks Jul 2024 #43
I suspended NYT 2 months ago. Terminated them today. Jarqui Jul 2024 #48
The Times betrayed basic journalism BoRaGard Jul 2024 #49
Me included. The NYT has NOT been at all even handed in its coverage ... Persondem Jul 2024 #51
I'm not in the habit of canceling subscriptions just because I disagree with editorial choices. mn9driver Jul 2024 #53
👇👇👇👁️👁️ Goonch Jul 2024 #55
Shoulda been... 3825-87867 Jul 2024 #70
I added a snarky comment on Threads now at 5,500! EastBayGuy Jul 2024 #71
More proof that the executives that run these MSM companies are Trump's coke snorting buddies from Studio 54. Crowman2009 Jul 2024 #72
They earned it. Progressive dog Jul 2024 #77
Ugghh, what a snake! ananda Jul 2024 #79
My subscription is now cancelled for good! ananda Jul 2024 #81

BComplex

(9,961 posts)
1. I'm really glad!!! It's about time.
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 08:01 PM
Jul 2024

A giant mass of humans has been awakened by the injustice and bullying of the media and the oligarchs.

agingdem

(8,958 posts)
21. the NYT is like a middle school mean girl, verbally assaulting anyone that doesn't kiss her ass..
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 09:31 PM
Jul 2024

the NYT is intentionally targeting Joe Biden because he's refusing a sit-down with one of their GOTCHA! reporters...

babylonsister

(172,804 posts)
3. That doesn't automatically guarantee
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 08:08 PM
Jul 2024

they're supporting Biden. I have a very intelligent Dem pal who wants him gone, though I suspect she used to be a fan of the NYT or still is. I gently engaged, but am not looking to make enemies.

eppur_se_muova

(42,524 posts)
22. Owners tend to be quite conservative -- after all, they're rich and don't want to pay taxes.
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 09:36 PM
Jul 2024

Editors are a bit less conservative, and reporters lean liberal. Op-ed commentators tend to be a mix, but lately is seems the NYT has gone totally MAGA on its editorial page.

Readers tend to be liberal just because liberals like to be well informed, and for some, especially in smaller cities, the NYT and WaPo are the best source of international print news easily available to them

erronis

(24,542 posts)
23. I think that's a perfect analysis of the layers of the NYT (and other media) owners - down to consumers.
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 09:39 PM
Jul 2024

Thank you.

eppur_se_muova

(42,524 posts)
56. Just passing on what I've read about the press in general. The original was not focused on NYT, or any single outlet. nt
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 09:40 AM
Jul 2024

ShazzieB

(22,883 posts)
44. I'm finding this somewhat helpful.
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 11:00 PM
Jul 2024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

Astroturfing is the practice of hiding the sponsors of a message or organization (e.g., political, advertising, religious, or public relations) to make it appear as though it originates from, and is supported by, grassroots participants. It is a practice intended to give the statements or organizations credibility by withholding information about the source's financial backers.

The implication behind the use of the term is that instead of a "true" or "natural" grassroots effort behind the activity in question, there is a "fake" or "artificial" appearance of support.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
47. It's a fake grass roots movement, also known as "stealth marketing"...
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 02:32 AM
Jul 2024

From the jargon file:

astroturfing: n.

1. The use of paid shills to create the impression of a popular movement, through means like letters to newspapers from soi-disant ‘concerned citizens’, paid opinion pieces, and the formation of grass-roots lobbying groups that are actually funded by a PR group (AstroTurf is fake grass; hence the term). See also sock puppet, tentacle.

2. What an individual posting to a public forum under an assumed name is said to be doing.

This term became common among hackers after it came to light in early 1998 that Microsoft had attempted to use such tactics to forestall the U.S. Department of Justice's antitrust action against the company. The maneuver backfired horribly, angering a number of state attorneys-general enough to induce them to go public with plans to join the Federal suit. It also set anybody defending Microsoft on the net for the accusation “You're just astroturfing!”.


An example of "stealth marketing" by some pretty big names, and EFF came to the rescue of the one who uncovered it...

https://www.spankmymarketer.com/

In this case, it is clear that some in the media have promoted a movement that doesn't have the kind of support they want us to believe.

SomedayKindaLove

(1,200 posts)
80. Pretty sure Brooks Brothers protest
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 04:47 PM
Jul 2024

Was Astroturfing. I think were all filming a zombie movie across the street and then all showed up to push their faces against glass building to stop the recount.

Ursus Rex

(499 posts)
52. The "Tea Party" is a great example.
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 08:09 AM
Jul 2024

It was eventually revealed as a Koch-funded fake grassroots movement but by then it had evolved into a sizable caucus that arguably led to MAGA.

calimary

(90,824 posts)
75. Wish we could figure out a way to take the fizz out of the kochs.
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 03:29 PM
Jul 2024

Seems to me that America needs that, badly and rather urgently.

AllaN01Bear

(29,805 posts)
76. mlady. i have been hoping that big monies would be removed with the help of the fec. but when the suprimes approved
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 04:21 PM
Jul 2024

that dasterdly citezens united . dark monies abound. i agree on your statement though. wonder who funded citezens united ?

soldierant

(9,372 posts)
82. -Well, David's dead, so he isn't. But Charley with his fake smile almost certainly is
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 07:17 PM
Jul 2024

The rest of the family doesn't get along with Charley and didn't with David, but that doesn't mean they are not also right wing (billionaires). It just means far right people are difficult to get along with, even for their families.

AllaN01Bear

(29,805 posts)
63. thanks . if we had a definitons section , this should be in it. somone else pinged me and ill check them out
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 10:17 AM
Jul 2024

karin_sj

(1,385 posts)
65. You'll be pleased to know that they are!
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 10:31 AM
Jul 2024

Comments are still coming in fast and furious, and there are now 5.3 thousand of them, the VAST majority of yelling at them to stop with the Biden bashing.

Response to karin_sj (Original post)

karin_sj

(1,385 posts)
10. Wordle
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 09:08 PM
Jul 2024

I don't think you need a subscription to play Wordle. I play it every day and I don't have one.

Trueblue Texan

(4,613 posts)
14. I canceled mine a couple of weeks ago and still get limited access to games, including Wordle. Nt
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 09:15 PM
Jul 2024

madaboutharry

(42,037 posts)
41. You don't need a subscription for Wordle.
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 10:56 PM
Jul 2024

Google Wordle and it’s right there without a subscription. Connections is also available without a subscription.

flamingdem

(40,980 posts)
16. I love it! Michelle Goldberg was on Rev Al's show spouting the anti-Biden
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 09:16 PM
Jul 2024

line earlier.

Too many of them are in deep creep territory.

I unsubscribed after decades. Used to work for them.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
54. Couldn't believe she said that.
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 09:20 AM
Jul 2024

Did she think everybody was going to be cool with it?

valleyrogue

(2,795 posts)
17. All the commenters should read the Politico article from a few months ago.
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 09:18 PM
Jul 2024

The NYT is doing the bidding of its nepotism baby publisher, A. G. Sulzberger, because he has a sad he couldn't get an interview with President Biden. Everybody should read it and pass it on to their friends and family:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/04/25/new-york-times-biden-white-house-00154219

Attilatheblond

(9,249 posts)
62. A valid, and not-used-often-enough arguement for taxing estates highly
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 09:58 AM
Jul 2024

would be to slow this trend of generational overindulged rich brats who don't grow up with ANY sense of responsibility to anyone but themselves and inherit money they never earned. It has stifled innovation in this country to the point of madness, and fostered an un-American aristocracy.

Because it takes the benefits of a society to allow for the amassing of huge fortunes, society needs to send a bill to those who exploit the rest for their obscene profits.

Skittles

(172,895 posts)
18. these fascist-enablers, they always overreach
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 09:18 PM
Jul 2024

to the point where it is very noticeable indeed

Attilatheblond

(9,249 posts)
58. WOW! That is a gem of an assesment of the situation.
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 09:51 AM
Jul 2024

One hopes it gets picked up and spreads far!

"NY Times: All the news that's fit to protect our tax cuts" should be on bumper stickers, billboards, and banners pulled by small planes flying over crowded beaches! Pure genius, SocialDemocrat61!

Attilatheblond

(9,249 posts)
67. Not too kind so much as I live by a rule: If I take time to complain, I am obligated to take time to give praise
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 10:49 AM
Jul 2024

Balance, it's about balance. And I mean what I said, that should be on billboards, banners, and bumpers!

BigDemVoter

(4,708 posts)
20. The NYT can fuck off.
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 09:28 PM
Jul 2024

I canceled my subscription. I got sick of hearing that Joe should step down whiling hearing NADA about **$$y-Grabber. . . .

Aussie105

(8,185 posts)
26. Once a media publication has taken sides there is no going back.
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 09:45 PM
Jul 2024

Expect an apology and an about face to balanced reporting and editorials?

Not going to happen - their leadership would rather pull the plug on their outlet.

Rupert Murdoch did that in the UK 'News of the World'.
Closure of the News of the World happened on 10 July 2011, after 168 years of publication.

peggysue2

(12,600 posts)
28. The NYT's deserves to be slammed
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 09:48 PM
Jul 2024

They've tried to do to Joe B what they did to Hillary C--defame, distort, delete. But . . .this time? Dems are onto the plot, the underlying bias and arrogance.

I dropped my subscription in 2016. I suspect this round in utter hubris will see another subscription flight.

Well deserved, IMO!

japple

(10,459 posts)
34. Yes! We learned our lesson in 2016. Wasn't poor Hillary nearly dead from some sort of
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 10:03 PM
Jul 2024

pneumonia? Did she stumble?

calimary

(90,824 posts)
35. Dear God they were AWFUL to her.
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 10:07 PM
Jul 2024

They seem to have it in for Democrats. But they were horrible to Hillary. Bastards! Made me even MORE determined to support her.

Sanity Claws

(22,440 posts)
68. Fool me once, shame on you.
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 12:21 PM
Jul 2024

Fool me twice, shame on me.
They are following the same playbook as 2016. No way should we fall for it again.

richdj25

(226 posts)
29. The Washington Post
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 09:48 PM
Jul 2024

is contributing their fair share of different, yet redundant negative stories about why Biden should step down.

Like the NY Times, they've forgotten that Trump even exists.

karin_sj

(1,385 posts)
66. We need your voice there!
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 10:42 AM
Jul 2024

And it is so comforting and hopeful to see so many people standing up for Biden and letting these pundits and commentators know how we feel. I've been feeling so helpless lately just seeing all the negative articles and thinking that if they have their way, we're going to lose our best chance of beating the orange monster. Now, I feel like I'm doing something to help in my own small way and am down in the trenches with my fellow Democrats, fighting the bad guys!

Aussie105

(8,185 posts)
37. Partisan media aren't really 'news' outlets.
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 10:22 PM
Jul 2024

They simply put forward one view and try to shape peoples' thinking, or get support from people who already think along their pushed lines.

People have no trouble thinking of Pravda as a propaganda tool, but don't do so with American media outlets.
Why would that be?

NoveltySocks

(415 posts)
43. When they deactivated Threads for those couple of hours, people just moved to their Instagram page
Sun Jul 7, 2024, 10:59 PM
Jul 2024

and continued the pile-on there. It was hilarious.

Jarqui

(10,925 posts)
48. I suspended NYT 2 months ago. Terminated them today.
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 07:20 AM
Jul 2024

I told them it was over their coverage of the Presidential election.

They tried to offer me a deal.
Told them I can't give a nickel to people doing what NYT has been doing.

I also gave them crap because they turned off the ability for me to cancel my subscription in my account.
I had to spend 10 minutes on the phone with them to end it.

Good riddance.

Sadly, losing the media like this makes it tougher for Democrats to win.

As always, I'm fighting MAGA/Trump on twitter and everywhere and every way I can

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
49. The Times betrayed basic journalism
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 07:22 AM
Jul 2024

and became spigot for rightward spin in all things.

Tragic.

Persondem

(2,101 posts)
51. Me included. The NYT has NOT been at all even handed in its coverage ...
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 07:52 AM
Jul 2024

... of the presidential election. They use every opportunity to slam Biden while Trump gets a pass on all his BS e.g. no mention of his "Black jobs" comment from the debate. I canceled my daily newsletter.

mn9driver

(4,857 posts)
53. I'm not in the habit of canceling subscriptions just because I disagree with editorial choices.
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 08:41 AM
Jul 2024

But this behavior from the Times is beyond the pale. Canceled them yesterday and told them why.

3825-87867

(2,019 posts)
70. Shoulda been...
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 01:17 PM
Jul 2024

pullet-zer!
You know, TSF's favorite kind!

Def:
Pullet:
Pullets are young hens that are not yet laying eggs, but will be soon.

Crowman2009

(3,600 posts)
72. More proof that the executives that run these MSM companies are Trump's coke snorting buddies from Studio 54.
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 01:55 PM
Jul 2024

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