What am I missing?

[angrychair]

Why are even seasoned politicians and media elite pushing this "replace Biden" narrative? It makes no sense. I cannot understand why they are pushing this effort when even if they got what they wanted it could completely destroy the Democratic Party.

1) an open convention will lead to chaos and infighting
2) it will result and contentious votes and uncomfortable speeches
3) long, drawn out conversations that likely will not be solved by the end of the convention
4) how do you get the person chosen onto the ballots in all 50 states when those deadlines have long pasted
5) where do the donations come from to fuel this new candidate?
6) how do they get campaign materials? Staff? Offices?
7) how do they overcome voter disenfranchisement for the millions of people that voted for Biden?


Lastly, there is a serious risk that Vice President Harris would not get the nomination (because white people) which, very likely, would result in a schism that would destroy the Democratic Party.

I don't mean this to sound hyperbolic because it's not. This is a significant risk because multiple people are already talking about a lot of other candidates that are not the VP, which should be the only choice being talked about.

To make it unequivocally clear: I am behind the president 100% and feel he should absolutely stay in this race
I also realize that, at the end of the day, the point of view of people like me is meaningless to the elite and I may have no choice in the matter in the end. I desperately hope cooler heads prevail but I have no control over the outcome but I fear this is going to go badly for everyone.

When I say "fear" I mean my anxiety is at 11 and I am absolutely terrified.

[Alice B.]

1. I feel you.

[Blue Full Moon]

2. History says

That tRump will win if this happens. Harris needs to step up and say she supports Biden. If something would happen to him she will be president. She can run after him and get elected twice that’s 12 years of democrat leadership in executive office.

[angrychair]

3. VP Harris has made us unequivocally clear

She supports the president without hesitation or reservation (her actual words if I remember correctly)

[Blue Full Moon]

7. Louder

Press conference so all media has to cover it. Would stop some of this nonsense.

[PortTack]

22. Yes ...she seriously has stepped up...several times in support of the President

You can find it on YouTube, instagram, Fb, TikTok…or google it

[dchill]

23. They cover what they're told to cover.

What they're not told to cover? That Trump is the one who needs to drop out.

[Frasier Balzov]

4. Look at the suspense as a distraction from the GOP convention.

There is no drama happening over there.

They're lemmings off the cliff for their candidate.

We, on the other hand, can hold onto the fascination for weeks.

And then dazzle and energize the nation with our own candidate at our own convention.

Can any Democrat honestly say that they'd rather not fascinate, dazzle and energize?

Do we not have a sense of show business?

[marble falls]

5. At least a couple of them, like Warner, seem to think they might get drafted at an open Convention. I don't doubt ...

... their intents so much as I question their timing. It's such a bad idea right now, with a convention a month away.

[Silent Type]

6. Simple. We are running against the worst candidate in history, trump. Yet, we are behind. Hopefully, Biden's team

will up it’s game to show we can beat trump. I cannot explain how the POS trump is ahead, but he is.

Kudos for Biden getting out there when he could have gotten discouraged after debate. He’s tough. If polls, etc., indicate he’s got a good chance to win, great. That’s the best way forward. If not, I want to beat trump whatever Hail Mary it takes to shake things up.

[GoreWon2000]

10. You don't understand the pro GOP media

The pro GOP media is doing everything they can to diminish Biden because the multinational corporations that own them want their big tax cuts and they don't want equality for women, civil rights, workers right or protecting the environment. There are enough dem elites in Congress that are stupid enough to take the bait

[Silent Type]

12. I saw Biden in Philadelphia twice today, the whole thing on media. There were reports tonight on local TV.

It’ll be in papers tomorrow. It’s here. It’s on other platforms. He was on ABC. He could have a town hall everyday on some outlet. Heck, go on the View and similar. There’s a long list of GOPers bashing trump. How are we not taking advantage of that?

More is always nice, but I’m sorry, it’s not being hidden. We just aren’t taking advantage of situation against the worst candidates, trump and other GOPers.

[brush]

17. How did he do today? Was he sharp and on top of things?

A few choice talking points repeated over and over is all he needs as lying, farting, pants-shitting, convicted criminal and insurrectionist trump is the worst candidate ever.

Joe's debate team failed him spectacularly in prepping him for the debate...cramming his head with figures was a mistake.

[Cha]

14. You Are NOT Mentioning That TSF has MILLIONS

in his CULT and the GD MEDIA Pounding ON Pres Biden

Link to tweet

[Silent Type]

15. Look, he was behind back when trump was on 24/7 for rape, fraud, bonking a porn star, etc.

Biden wasn’t getting pounded on then.

We’ve got millions in Democratic core too, but we are still behaving. Hopefully, we’ll get some encouraging news this week.

[Cha]

18. Yes the Media is Always Basing Pres Biden.. and Pumping up TSF

Just More Now

Schiff is WRONG.

[Silent Type]

20. Yeah, showing him next to a pornstar after 34 felony convictions is pumping up trump.

[betsuni]

19. It's the Blame Democrats! thing. Completely ignores reality, why people vote for Republicans.

MUST be those terrible Democrats with flawed candidates and bad policies who aren't convincing voters with magic shouty populist speeches about speaking truth to power and revolution or whatever. Really sick of it.

[Cha]

21. IKR! TY!! It's frigging Ridiculous.. how

to Deal with that.. when some are Not dealing in the Reality What is Actually Happening!

Yes "must be Pres Biden's fault".

Mahalo!

[BootinUp]

8. Its been turned back for now. in my opinion. nt

[GoreWon2000]

11. I sure hope so but we'll see

[Marcus IM]

9. "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." - FDR

to

[Silent3]

13. I think it's a terrible idea that Biden step down, but wouldn't bet I'm smarter than Adam Schiff on such matters...

...who didn't call for that, but did suggest that Biden should consider it.

Schiff has shown himself to be pretty damned saavy, so do you think he'd bother suggesting Biden consider stepping down if he didn't think it could be done successfully?

I'd guess (and I'm only guessing) your issues might be answered like this:

1) an open convention will lead to chaos and infighting
2) it will result and contentious votes and uncomfortable speeches
3) long, drawn out conversations that likely will not be solved by the end of the convention

I'd expect that no move for Biden to step down would be made until a clear internal consensus had been reached on Biden's replacement beforehand. Can that be done? I'd bet Schiff thinks that possible, because he sure isn't naive about what an open convention would be like.

4) how do you get the person chosen onto the ballots in all 50 states when those deadlines have long pasted

The only deadlines that are long past are the deadlines for running in the primaries, not the general election.

Although I've heard there might be challenges in some states, general election ballots have to (or should have to) wait until the conventions officially select their candidates. Democrats have a problem this year because (and I think this was stupid!) they scheduled their convention after some state general election ballot deadlines.

There is a fix for that, which is doing a mini-convention (perhaps even in in the form of a Zoom call) to select the Democratic nominee before any of those deadlines expire, and before the big made-for-TV show (which, let's get real, isn't a real convention but a media campaign event). This was already planned anyway.

5) where do the donations come from to fuel this new candidate?

If Harris is the agreed-upon candidate, this problem is solved. Biden/Harris campaign funds are legally at her disposal.

6) how do they get campaign materials? Staff? Offices?

Again, if Harris is the agreed-upon candidate, she'll inherit what exists, and can then modify anything she'd want to change for herself.

7) how do they overcome voter disenfranchisement for the millions of people that voted for Biden?

I think it's a fair bet that most Democrats' top concern is beating Trump – either specifically beating Trump, or for issues like abortion, gun safety, NATO alliances, taxing the rich, etc., that can be satisfied by nearly any Democrat.

It's Biden's choice to step down, after all, so is it really disenfranchisement if the candidate himself decides not to run?

I know people keep voicing their anger about calls for Biden to step down as Biden being "forced" out, but I think Biden himself considers beating Trump the most important goal, and he won't decide to step down unless he himself thinks someone else has a better shot than he does.

You also have to remember a lot of people didn't vote in the primaries at all. Many who did vote voted to show support for Biden over horrible candidates like RFK Jr, but still wished there were other, younger, more dynamic choices.

I think you greatly overestimate the "How dare they take my Biden away!" gnashing of teeth.

Lastly, there is a serious risk that Vice President Harris would not get the nomination (because white people) which, very likely, would result in a schism that would destroy the Democratic Party.

I think Harris is really the only possible choice, and if consensus to run Harris couldn't be reached ahead of time then no move for Biden to step down would be made at all.

For all the danger in running anyone but Biden, you have to consider that many people have expressed disgust that Trump and Biden are the only choices. I think that's terribly unfair to Biden, who's done an amazing job in my opinion, but I don't control public sentiment, sentiment which unfairly blames Biden for inflation, and sentiment driven by being unaware of Biden's accomplishments.

Harris could well turn out to energize the campaign in ways we can't predict. For what it's worth (not much), polls on hypothetical match-ups between Harris and Trump currently show her doing about as well as Biden in a general election.

I'd hope (but can't predict) that Harris has untapped potential to energize voters, enough to outdo the inevitable right-wing attacks that would naturally spin up to tear her down.

[Silent Type]

16. +1.

[PortTack]

24. Besides the media...many many trolls!

They flip flop to gain trust and acceptance, then comes the seed of doubt repeated over and over and over. Think about it DU!!