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http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/robert-reich/110894/why-isn-t-the-media-reporting-on-trump-s-growing-dementiaWhy Isnt the Media Reporting on Trumps Growing Dementia?
by Robert Reich | July 8, 2024 - 6:23am
from Robert Reich's Substack
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Im no physician, and I have no idea whether Biden or Trump is suffering from early dementia. But the weight of the evidence suggests Trump is. So why isnt the media covering this?
When Ive asked members of the media, they say Trumps malfunctioning brain is old news.
After all, in 2017, 27 psychiatrists, psychologists, and other mental health professionals concluded in The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump that Trumps mental health posed a clear and present danger to the nation.
Members of Trumps own Cabinet horrified by the January 6, 2021, violence at the Capitol and Trump's lack of urgency in stopping it discussed whether to invoke the the 25th Amendment to remove him from office due to mental incompetence.
But just because Trump has shown mental instability in the past doesnt make his mental problems any less relevant now that he is seeking reelection. Theyre more relevant. He appears even more delusional than before.
If Bidens difficulties are fair game, why isnt Trumps apparent mental decline front and center?
Biden may appear frail, but hes rational. The growing evidence of Trumps dementia and paranoia, on the other hand, poses a clear potential danger to the future of America if hes reelected.
At the least, the media should be investigating and reporting on it. Right?
Blue Owl
(59,601 posts)This is the REAL problem in the 2024 election runup
Lovie777
(23,694 posts)MiHale
(13,157 posts)Insane bull. If he could find a way to capitalize capital letters hed be all over it.
wryter2000
(47,940 posts)going to be "old news"?
sop
(19,259 posts)retread
(3,932 posts)electricity and sharks.
republianmushroom
(22,670 posts)sop
(19,259 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(14,624 posts)for months now. Why aren't they reporting on that, and the leg dragging, and all of that? But no, they're so focussed on Biden's "bad debate"! /s
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Here's a January 2024 WaPo headline:
A whale of a tale: Trump continues to distort cognitive test he took
The Montreal Cognitive Assessment, a test aimed at detecting dementia or cognitive decline, never included the combination of animals Trump identified this week
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/trump-cognitive-test/
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Late Night Trolls Trump Over 'Severe Memory Issues'
NYT June 2024 https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/19/arts/television/late-night-trump-memory.html
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Here's NYT article discussion on Biden vs trump's health, 6/24/2024
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/24/opinion/biden-trump-health-conditions.html
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If you'll keep searching, you'll find Pelosi said trump has dementia on CNN a week ago. Then, FOX picked it up.
Newsweek has a recent article. If you need more, try checking facts because Reich sure didn't.
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)But they sure are popular.
Further, Reich undercuts his own point when he admits that he has no clue if Trump even has dementia. Then, he insists that he does.
unblock
(56,256 posts)It's true that it's a bit of an overstatement to say "the media completely ignored" negative stories about republicans. The very fact that we here on du are aware of such stories is invariably because it appeared in the media at some point somewhere.
But it's they cover bad news for politicians vastly differently depending on the party.
Consider how they dwelled endlessly on the Hillary email crap while hardly mentioning that the entire shrub administration was on a private server for 8 solid years. Yes it was noted from time to time, but it barely registered as news, and as somehow considered irrelevant to the Hillary scandal, even though the scales dwarfed the email traffic on Hillary's server. Not to mention that the media doesn't seem nearly as obsessed with Donnie blatantly stealing very clearly marked classified information, sharing it with people clearly not authorized to see it, etc.
Yes the report on such things, but not in the same way and not to the same extent. Every Hillary email story had an air of how the next revelation could end her career, while Donnie coverage is ho hum, I guess it doesn't matter because he still polls over 90% among republicans.
misanthrope
(9,623 posts)Trying to slow the frenzy.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)Doc Sportello
(7,964 posts)So you found ONE article from six months ago that actually discussed the topic in the mainstream press. The rest is an article about late night TV and a comment from Pelosi. Wow, that really proves that the media coverage is balanced. Sheesh.
How do you have time to do all that volunteering for Biden while searching endlessly for articles that don't prove what you are saying?
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 9, 2024, 12:05 PM - Edit history (1)
Doc Sportello
(7,964 posts)From Salon:
he New York Times has run 192 stories on the subject since the debate, including 50 editorials and 142 news stories. The Washington Post, which has also gone for saturation coverage, published a resignation speech they wrote for him. Not to be outdone, the New Yorkers editor-in-chief declared that Biden not going away would be an act not only of self-delusion but of national endangerment
192 to your one from six months ago. Almost all having to do with Biden's mental state. Nothing to do with goalposts or any other deflection you try to employ. Repeat, 192 to ONE and that doesn't include CNN or WAPO. Rather than cliche deflections the thing to do is to admit you were wrong in smearing those who point out these facts about the coverage. But I suspect you are not the kind who can do that and it would seem to interfere with your agenda here.
Doc Sportello
(7,964 posts)So you found ONE article from six months ago that actually discussed the topic in the mainstream press. The rest is an article about late night TV and a comment from Pelosi. Wow, that really proves that the media coverage is balanced. Sheesh.
How do you have time to do all that volunteering for Biden while searching endlessly for articles that don't prove what you are saying?
Reich is a respected commentator and academician. He knows facts a lot more than you do.
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)TV diagnosticians aren't proof. Further, Reich first says he doesn't know if Trump has dementia, then insists that he does.
I like Reich, but articles like this accomplish nothing, particularly when the author conclusively undercuts his own point in the article.
There's really no proof Trump has dementia. He certainly could, but a lot of his act is quite intentional, and he's been saying incomprehensible shit for more than a decade.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)His constant bashing of Obama and Clinton over trade right up to election in 2016 helped us fail.
Of course, dementia is not a requirement for being batchit crazy.
Doc Sportello
(7,964 posts)Reich has been proven right in his criticism of the trade policies. Unless you support massive redistribution of wealth, which it seems you do. And he knows a whole lot more about economics than you do,. And no, he did not "help us fail" in 2016. That's just ludicrous.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Doc Sportello
(7,964 posts)I'm sure you can find one who shares your view and you probably think that one equals the fact that Obama used him all the time. Obama did that. And no your opinion or some staffer speaking anonymously does not back up your obviouly false claim.Your attack on Reich as being nonfactual is totally undermined by false claims and false equivalencies.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Doc Sportello
(7,964 posts)You're embarrassing yourself. First you claim that Clinton and Obama didn't use him, now this one line of your opinion - a provably false claim - as supporting this ridiculous claim is absurd.
You know that famous line about silence? Take the advice
hadEnuf
(3,657 posts)TV diagnosticians aren't proof, but that sure isn't stopping the shark frenzy that's going on with Biden.
Biden actually had a physical not too long ago and there were no cognitive problems identified. And the exam wasn't done by an ersatz doctor.
I think that's what Reich may be pointing out.
hay rick
(9,712 posts)Quanto Magnus
(1,377 posts)M$m is run by wealthy conservatives/regressives. They want a horse race and the only way to do it is to keep going after Biden and downplay what TSF says.
GoodRaisin
(11,053 posts)misanthrope
(9,623 posts)End of story
twodogsbarking
(19,309 posts)Because they aren't allowed?
Warpy
(114,656 posts)tax cuts
GoCubsGo
(34,994 posts)They're protecting him so that their billionaire owners can get more tax cuts.
Rocknation
(45,008 posts)into the hypocrisy of actively reporting about BIDEN'S growing dementia -- especially if this is true:
Link to tweet
Rocktivity
Shipwack
(3,099 posts)This assertion has been consistently debunked.
In fact, this post has the fact check right below it!
I hate the MSM as much as the next lefty, but repeating lies is not going to get us allies.
Wounded Bear
(64,618 posts)kimbutgar
(27,543 posts)President Biden is not as exciting to them because he doesnt brag, say outrageous things and does his job.
ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)calimary
(90,740 posts)Why AREN'T we hearing more about it?
It should be FRONT PAGE NEWS, across every newspaper, and broadcast and internet information flow. It would drive down his numbers and his perceived "invincibility" - and we need that.
We need that BIGTIME.
somaticexperiencing
(599 posts)to drum up a news story from nothing. From nonsense. It's like reality TV or pro wrestling. People tune in to see and hear what outrageous thing he is going to do next.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/magazine/is-everything-wrestling.html
Plus the owners of all the news stations are Trump contributors.
This goes along with our messaging thing. We need to become experts at getting out our message, extra expert at it. Those of us who have been in the minority know what this is like. To get your views out, even when it is hard for them to be listened to.
And when we hold the power, we should do something to license the news.
Without that, it's just LICENTIOIUS.
jimfields33
(19,382 posts)Why do we care? Why is everyone so interested?
Bird Lady
(1,996 posts)donate to trump. It is a different version of catch and kill. This time they are trying to kill our president.
They are not smart enough to recognize how bad they will have it in a dystopian rule. Any thing they do will be
scrutinized maga. I hope they like what they have wrought.
Evolve Dammit
(21,814 posts)At all. Really sucks. Dishonest journalists
her emails, Hunters laptop, Benghazi. Its always Dems and never repukes. The real owners. G. Carlins American Dream. Watch it if you havent
Evolve Dammit
(21,814 posts)Linda ladeewolf
(1,142 posts)Trump behaves more than a little senile, but hes a bullshitter and from what Ive heard a senile bullshitter can still bullshit even if he cant remember what he was talking about. It may even be easier. He does ramble on for over an hour most times.
TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)He never was fit for office at all.
Not now, not eight years ago, not even forty years ago.
What does losing it mean when you never had it to start with?
His manifest unfitness became "acceptable" when he was elected with it and reinforced by being the nominee for a major "party" twice since so he is in house money until he clearly reaches some new depth of batshit crazy and utterly incompetent which may mean literally flinging his own poo or so.
Mike Nelson
(10,943 posts)... Trump fans WANT a demented leader.
dlk
(13,336 posts)The NYT has actually started syntax reporting on Bidens speeches. Hard to believe anyone, let alone a major news outlet in 2024 could be so ignorant and cruel.
Beartracks
(14,645 posts)... another fine and very important example of their history of projection: so, so many of the critiques and complaints they make about Democrats turn out to be an admission of their own faults and deeds and secrets. Thus it occurs to me that Republicans may be wanting voters to think Biden is a doddering, incompetent fool precisely because Trump is turning into a doddering, incompetent fool.
The secret is not one being kept from public view by Democrats, but by Republicans.
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liberalla
(11,217 posts)c-rational
(3,221 posts)Backseat Driver
(4,671 posts)Has Israeli born Sam Vaknin who has previously served in the IDF and aside from a brief stint with AP News and running a now defunct political news site, ever been a consultant to Fox News or other MSM...Apparently, he's re-married and has a psychology practice in North Macedonia and still makes videos on youtube and does lectures. Is he just a fraud that takes his brain system medication(s) and has found a novel way to gain his supply? Does he have a professional cult following as does P45?
IbogaProject
(6,064 posts)The media's masters and advertisers have an agenda to avoid that topic. FYI the media has rarely been unbiased, just now with it so concentrated and with the collapse of the newspaper industry we are now in a media landscape only slightly better than 18th century France and England. We need to take up pampleteering and print and distribute short form print pieces like activists have done for a few centuries now.
pansypoo53219
(23,159 posts)moondust
(21,349 posts)
summer_in_TX
(4,260 posts)No, they haven't examined him. But they've studied many videos covering many years. Trump's vocabulary has shrunk significantly over that time from his own cognitive baseline. He now appears to forget words and trails of with sounds that do not resemble words. He's slurring and eliding sounds often.
His father had dementia.
I myself started showing signs of aphasia a decade ago, and have trouble retrieving words at times. Sometimes I have to describe items adjacent to the word I'm looking for until my listener is able to guess what I meant. My grandmother had similar symptoms, and though I function fine mentally in many ways (except for retrieving names and now nouns, I know dementia runs on both sides of my family.) I haven't been formally assessed, but even a dozen years ago when I still taught it could take me several minutes to retrieve the name of my students even though I'd had them more than one year as a special ed teacher. (A factor in my deciding to retire.)
One of the researchers did a study of both Trump and President Biden's language changes over time, counting the various kinds of gaffes each make. The study's conclusion noted that both men's language abilities have declined but said Biden's is consistent with normal aging and doesn't raise red flags about dementia. Trump's did. I believe the study caused the author to put him in the mild to moderate category of dementia. His performance at the debate was more coherent than he's been in recent events that have been recorded, so his may not be all that advanced, but I suspect based on my own experience that aphasia is a problem for him.
markodochartaigh
(5,545 posts)is going to be an increasingly worrisome issue. After my bout of covid; vaxxed, boosted, and social distancing compliant, I have noticed a sharp decline in my mental acuity which doesn't seem to be getting better even a year on.
KS Toronado
(23,846 posts)Dangerous Case of Donald Trump that Trumps mental health posed a clear and present danger
to the nation.
Every little bit helps!
King_Klonopin
(1,389 posts)Remember the assassination of the presidential campaign of Governor Howard Dean of Vermont?
This "Biden has dementia" meme is the newest variation of "Howard Dean is unhinged because he screamed" meme.
The media kept running it until Dean had to drop out of the race. Good job objective reporters!
In the case of Dean, the microphone was adjusted too high which exaggerated the "yelling".
In the case of Biden, the microphone was adjusted too low which exaggerated the "weak voice".
This is America: Evidently, we chose our leaders based on important criterion -- like the volume level of their voice.
The Republicans once again have created a controversy out of nothing -- pure BS. It's what they do.
The media, always the willing shills, have seized upon this non-issue like a dog with a bone,
and they are more than happy to beat it into the ground. Why?
Because peddling this kind of BS attracts viewers. That's all that matters.
Reality? Truth? Relevance? perspective? That don't mean sheeyit.
Keeping people tuned in is the #1 concern.
Contrived controversy, salaciousness, pearl-clutching, fear-mongering, paranoia, and bias always work best.
Running perpetual loops of democrats in meaningless, one-off situations is nothing new.
Trump insults the president with a despicable lie that "everyone" in the military "hates" Joe Biden.
A day later, no more is said.
Trump is convicted on 34 felony counts and of having an affair with a adult porn star.
A day or two later, nothing is said.
Trump vomits up incoherent screeds at his rallies.
Nothing is said at all.
Biden had a poor night at a debate.
The New York Times declares he has dementia and demands that he drop out of the race.
That was 12 days ago. It is still alive, and the republicans and the press are gleeful.
markpkessinger
(8,935 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 9, 2024, 11:28 AM - Edit history (1)
That;s the best summation of what is going on I've read to date!
It's also important to remember that it wasn't just the media who took Dean down. It was also a certain faction of Democrats -- in that instance, it was the centrist, corporate Democrats who had been running the party since the Clinton presidency -- who opportunistically seized upon the moment to eliminate someone they saw as a rival. Dean, a progressive, was gaining considerable traction among younger voters, and the Democratic establishment at the time very much wanted to shut him down.
And now, it is a different faction of Democrats who are assisting the media effort to drive President Biden from the race -- a group that is perhaps not so ideologically cohesive as the group that seized on the Dean Scream were, but who are nonetheless operating out of their own agenda(a),.
dalton99a
(95,207 posts)Peacetrain
(24,291 posts)Attilatheblond
(9,214 posts)And the Media Moguls are part of that group