Lawrence O'Donnell reported breaking news about neurologist

[LiberalFighter]

The White House medical unit does not treat just the President.

The eight visits by the neurologist were for patients other than the President. They were military personnel.

The neurologist has only examined the President related to his annual physical.

[usonian]

1. And roto rooter visited Trump.

Let the wild speculation begin!!

[Blue Owl]

27. They had to call in a heavy duty backup truck

[usonian]

35. They're called honey wagons in some places.

[deurbano]

53. "Honey buckets" is my favorite!

[central scrutinizer]

61. A local septic service

Has trucks with the slogan, “Yesterday’s meals on wheels.”

[usonian]

64. Not the same but related:

A garbage company advertised on its trucks:

SATISFACTION GUARANTEED
OR TWICE YOUR GARBAGE BACK

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

66. Some severe blockage

Turns out it was just his head.

[BOSSHOG]

2. Damn You Liberal Fighter

Wrecklessly spreading factual information for public consumption.

This explains the White House Spokes Person saying they cannot give out personal information. Who da thought there were other humans in the White House in need of medical assistance. Leave it to President Bartletts father to set the record straight.

[LiberalFighter]

5. She mentioned there were thousands receiving medical services at the White House

But the reporters ignored that information. Including that they were military.

I also checked to see the number of staff working in the White House. There are 565.

Another detail is that the President has access to a doctor at the White House, overseas, and events.

[BOSSHOG]

7. Thank You My Friend

Correcting right wing nonsense is a growth industry

[Cheezoholic]

14. I pointed this out when Dr. Speed Ron Jackson's pill dispensary receipts were published. I don't think people realize

everyone working at or for the White House has access to the White House physicians office as patients, which is a lot more than one Dr. , and also the pharmacy. There is always one physician assigned to the President wherever he goes along with a traveling triage unit.

[former9thward]

23. How does 565 become "thousands"?

And all of them need medical services?

[ancianita]

28. O'Donnell said there are 1,000 military who use WH medical team services.

So yeah, more than the 565, which is still a lot.

[former9thward]

32. There are not a thousand military at the WH.

Maybe 20-30 at the most.

[ancianita]

33. I didn't say all at once. I SAID in the course of time "use" WH medical services. I said what Lawrence said.

Did you watch the first 30 minutes of Lawrence?

[former9thward]

54. If Lawence is saying a 1000 military people use medical services at the WH

I am glad I don't watch him.

[ancianita]

57. Then why would you argue with me when he said it TWICE.

Why do you care if the CiC helps provide medical services for military at the WH. What could you possibly have against that.

[former9thward]

58. Because it is a false statement.

The military gets their treatment at Walter Reed which is nearby. Don't try and put words in my posts.

[ancianita]

59. Prove it.

I've been an officer's wife in the military and happen to know that just because military go to Walter Reed doesn't mean that's the ONLY place they can go; there are other services, and not just the VA.

[former9thward]

60. You are the one saying there are thousands of medical visits to the WH by the military.

Prove it.

[ancianita]

62. Start 1:31 -- proof from Dr. O'Connor

[SunSeeker]

68. The WHITE HOUSE PHYSICIAN said thousands serving the WH use WH neurologist services.

This is not the first time you have inserted yourself in a thread to assert incorrect information against a Dem, former9thward.





Where do you get your information? I recommend you watch Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC. Wherever you get your info from sucks. The NY Times has been especially awful and wrong with this story.

[Hekate]

36. My family doc has only 2 or 3 patients at any one time waiting in his office. Strangely enough...

…his practice is a very large one — they’re just not all crammed in there at once.

[former9thward]

55. I have no idea what that has to do with anything.

The military does not get their medical services at the WH.

[SunSeeker]

69. Wrong. The thousands of active-duty military who perform support services for the WH do.

[former9thward]

70. OMG

There are not thousands of military or even hundreds or even dozens at the WH. Believe whatever you need to believe.

[SunSeeker]

71. OMG

Nobody said they were all there at the same time. Come on.

The WH has hundreds of support personnel, civilian and military, that come in and out over time, providing everything from security to soufflés. Why is that so fucking hard for you to understand?

The neurologist we are talking about has worked at the WH for 12 years. It is utterly reasonable that he has seen thousands of active-duty military during his tenure.

[LiberalFighter]

43. As I stated the White House staff consist of 565.

The military showing up for medical were the thousands.

[calimary]

29. Good stuff! The more you know...

…and all that.

[Lovie777]

3. Thanks.............................

that's what I figured. Ya think the media would have also know that but alas they are writing articles to the contrary.

[LiberalFighter]

10. It would had been understandable if it was during last administration

Which apparently didn't keep a visitor log.

Reporters should have known the President's annual physical was available. It is apparently six pages.

[summer_in_TX]

25. The president's medical report is easily available on WhiteHouse.gov.

Googling will get you there.

[ancianita]

30. Well. Media

Last edited Tue Jul 9, 2024, 12:31 AM - Edit history (2)

wasn't even supposed to know what they later found out about trump's Dr. Jackson, and then later found out about the pharmacy use in the WH -- because the trump WH denied media access to WH visitor logs -- a clear ethics violation and possible national security issue. But being a more honest administration, the Biden WH transparently allows media access to WH visitor logs.

THAT difference between the trump WH and the Biden WH is why the media could spin its stupidity today.

[chowder66]

4. The press is acting absolutely shamefully.

[PatSeg]

6. Yes, they are out of control

It is like some sort of mania. They thought they had a story and they just won't let it go.

[Backseat Driver]

12. They are out of control and RUDE, RUDE, RUDE!

[PatSeg]

16. Yes, many are showing who they really are

It is like they've been on some frenzied drunken weekend. The hangover is really going to suck.

[sprinkleeninow]

39. Plus self-serving to the max. nt

[SouthBayDem]

21. POTUS probably advised Jean-Pierre to decline comment for very good reason

To prevent potential HIPPA violations. That’s why she couldn’t disclose details about the neurologist visiting.

[former9thward]

24. There are no HIPPA violations.

Unless she discussed specific individuals without their permission.

[LiberalFighter]

44. She was trying to avoid that from happening.

[former9thward]

56. No, she was not.

It is very easy to talk in general terms. She is a press secretary and should know how to do that.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

63. The doctors would be swarmed by the media and

magats.

[JohnSJ]

9. F**k the WH press scum.

[dchill]

11. Lawrence is nailing it tonight. As usual.

Wow. No unnamed sources. No "people are saying!" He must not be a real journalist.

[ancianita]

31. Yes, he IS!

[dchill]

38. 😉 Yes, he is. He's the epitome of journalists.

[spooky3]

13. See also this thread for more comments.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219123383

[JohnSJ]

15. It is quite clear some members of the WH press corp need to step down as journalists, because they are NOT journalists

[Diraven]

18. I mean they literally just had to pick up the phone

And talk to this neurologist. But nope, then they might not have gotten the scoop, and besides, everyone who doesn't agree with their manufactured narrative is "complicit in the cover-up".

[Pinback]

22. It's truly mind-boggling how lazy and reckless some of these reporters are.

In a job where there are hundreds of qualified applicants coming up who’d love to replace them, wouldn’t you think they’d have to be really damned competent to hang on to those jobs?

[Turbineguy]

17. Another line of bullshit debunked.

[Mime]

19. President Biden Signs Parkinson's Bill into Law (July 2, 2024)

President Biden Signs Parkinson's Bill into Law
On July 2, President Biden signed the National Plan to End Parkinson’s Act into law. This is the first-ever federal legislation dedicated to ending Parkinson’s disease (PD).
https://www.parkinson.org/blog/awareness/national-plan

You'd think the media would realize that this could be another reason why a Parkinson's expert was seen at the White house. Unlike the convicted god/king/felon who knows all, President Biden seeks expert guidance when needed.

[Bev54]

20. At least 3 of those visits Biden was not even at the WH

[OAITW r.2.0]

26. Always good not to over-react to initial news posts.

I didn't. Saved a lot of type-written words by waiting for more context.

[SunSeeker]

34. Lawrence O'Donnell is the voice of reason at MSNBC right now.

Everyone else there seems to be losing their shit.

[KS Toronado]

37. I watched ABC/CBS/NBC evening news tonight

Each one lead with the doctor going to the White House 8 times in 8 months. And then all the varied
questions about Biden's health blah blah blah. Doesn't appear any one of them checked on any facts
before broadcast. seems more like a coordinated effort but who is giving them their talking points?
Heritage Foundation?

[FHRRK]

40. And CNN and I am sure FOX

Plenty of time to look for facts, yet each and every org acted like Fox.

[Rhiannon12866]

41. Here's the video for those who missed it:

Biden's doctor: Neurologist visits to White House were to see other people - The Last Word - MSNBC
https://www.democraticunderground.com/132124312

[crickets]

46. Thank you!

Lawrence just put the WH press corps firmly in their place. He has become my favorite source these days when I bother to turn on the TV. There's no point bothering with anyone else.

[Desert grandma]

51. The Last Word is one of the few programs I record and watch.

MSNBC has many hosts that have taken their eyes off the REAL story...the danger that the convicted felon poses to the country and to our future. Lawrence is calm, articulate and he has been around politics a long time. I trust his insights. Some of the other hosts have had guests on their shows that are spewing "the sky is falling" narrative. Kudos to Lawrence!

[sop]

42. Our sensationalist corporate media's motto: "Why let facts get in the way of a good story?"

[BumRushDaShow]

45. Does anyone remember that 45 REMOVED ACCESS to the White House Visitors logs not long after he moved into the WH?

Trump will keep list of White House visitors secret

By John Wagner
April 14, 2017 at 5:31 p.m. EDT


The Trump administration announced Friday that it will not follow former president Barack Obama's policy of voluntarily disclosing the names of most visitors to the White House complex, citing “grave national security risks and privacy concerns.”

The announcement — from an administration that has faced pointed questions about its commitment to transparency — marks a significant shift from the Obama White House, which released the names of nearly 6 million visitors, including scores of lobbyists.

Instead, the Trump administration said it would release information under far more limited circumstances: when Freedom of Information Act requests are filed for those visiting offices of the White House characterized under the law as separate agencies, such as the Office of Management and Budget.

Under the new policy, it will be up to the White House to decide whether to release the names of visitors coming to meet with the president, vice president and their senior staff, at least in the short term. Under a separate statute, much of that information can become public years after Trump leaves office. Friday's announcement was harshly criticized by government watchdog groups.

(snip)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/04/14/trump-to-discontinue-obama-policy-of-voluntarily-releasing-white-house-visitor-logs/

The "media watchdogs" complained but the media response? "Meh. Okay".

The January 6 Committee was able to get those logs from NARA in 2022 after a myriad of court filings attempting to block them -

U.S. Archives turns over Trump White House visitor logs to Jan. 6 committee

March 4, 2022 11:39 AM EST Updated 2 years ago


WASHINGTON, March 4 (Reuters) - The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration has delivered White House visitor logs from former President Donald Trump's administration to the congressional committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, the committee said on Friday. NARA also turned over records from former Vice President Mike Pence, meeting a March 3 deadline.

"Yesterday, the Select Committee received additional production of records from the National Archives," a House of Representatives Select Committee aide said. "This included records that the former President attempted to keep hidden behind claims of privilege."

Trump had tried to block the release of the visitor logs, but President Joe Biden rejected his claim that they were subject to executive privilege, "in light of the urgency" of the committee's work and Congress' "compelling need."

Several courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court, have also ruled against the Republican ex-president's efforts to block the release of various records to the committee.

(snip)

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-archives-turns-over-trump-white-house-visitor-logs-jan-6-committee-2022-03-04/

They are lucky to have even had access to those logs under Biden because they didn't seem to care that the logs were BLOCKED by the previous administration that they coddle and promote, and Biden could have instituted the same policy but didn't.

[OhioTim]

47. ABC Evening News

last night said there were 24 neurologist's visits during Obama's presidency

[twodogsbarking]

48. 'Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.'

[SpankMe]

49. We need to know what the neurologist was treating

We don't need to know who.

Sleep issues are often - if not typically - treated by neurologists. My GP referred me to a neuro for sleep issues, and my neuro ordered a sleep study. He diagnosed obstructive sleep apnea and ordered me a CPAP machine. I see him once a year for follow-ups.

So, if many individuals get treatment through the WH medical office, and neuro's are the specialty that treats sleep disorders, and lots of people can't sleep (which probably afflicts many with the heavy duties of the WH), then I'd bet money the neuros are treating sleep issues..

[suegeo]

50. Neurologist might be familiar with anomalous health incidents like Havana Syndrome

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/havana-syndrome-olivia-troye-miles-taylor-60-minutes-2022-02-20/

For the first time Sunday night, Homeland Security officials spoke on camera about being overcome with symptoms similar to the "Havana Syndrome" reported by American diplomats in foreign countries since 2016. The high-ranking officials said they suffered unexplained vertigo, confusion and memory loss while on White House grounds and in their Washington homes.

Olivia Troye had Havana Syndrome symptoms and was an assistant to Mike Pence. Trump wanted to kidnap and or kill his own V.P. on Jan 6.

This happened to Ms. Troye -- advisor to Mike Pence -- while on White House grounds. It's happened to the other official in the story near his home in D.C.

It's happened in foreign countries, to V.P. Harris.
]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/harris-vietnam-trip-anomalous-health-incident/

AHIs are closely tied to the Russians. Google it for yourself.

Who else might the Russians want to upset with confusion and memory loss? Especially for key events, like say a presidential debate or during a meeting with NATO or during some other key event.

On one side is a traitor who colluded with, and is still colluding with our enemy, Russia.

On the other side is our President, who is not a convicted felon.

I'm just saying.

[republianmushroom]

52. And we had a lying doctor examine trump as I remember.

[thucythucy]

65. I figured as much as soon as I heard this story.

Another nothing-burger. But, sad to say, lots of people won't hear the followup, only the original BS.

[slightlv]

67. Thank you for the added info...

I'd totally missed this, and if I could miss it, I'm sure others in my group have, as well. Since I'm meeting with a few of them tomorrow, it'll be nice to point this out.