What Jon Stewart said tonight - video that's painful to watch - and what Jo from Jerz said in response (brava)

[highplainsdem]

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Longer video from YouTube, posted by TheProle in a reply to another topic about Stewart that hadn't had any video:

[Silent Type]

1. Used to watch him. Might tune back in.

[ColinC]

4. Although I emphatically disagree with his sentiment, he is incredibly entertaining and clever

[shrike3]

13. Yes, perfect for Hail Mary types.

Jo from Jerz had a good point. I've been asking it myself. What's the plan?

[UTUSN]

2. He should have stfu decades ago, like

when he got CNN's Crossfire cancelled (it "divided" ) , "reached out" to O'Loofah and BecKKK, held his counterpart to Beck's "unity" event. 3rd Way? Preaching from on-high.

[eShirl]

34. crossfire was one of his high points

[SocialDemocrat61]

36. How about when he attacked Acorn

based on James O’Keefe’s edited videos or maybe when he pushed the discredited Wuhan lab theory or when he said it’s crazy to think Russia interfered in the 16 election. He’s just another smug elitist TV celebrity.

[rubbersole]

3. He was the truth during the W era.

He doesn't seem the same. IMHO.

[Silent Type]

5. The world and reality aren't the same. I think he's like many people from that period.

[shrike3]

14. IOW, he's happy that he's got his.

[eShirl]

33. no longer young...

[betsuni]

10. Speaking of G.W. Bush, there were whole books of his Bushisms and bizarre speaking stylings.

Thought of it while watching the show.

[usonian]

6. Jon Stewart should step down. (satire)

He looks gaunt and worn out. I remember when he looked youthful and sharp. And his material was funny.

Unlike the presidency, looks really mean a lot to performers, and he's way past the "Hand me my Geritol" stage.

I'm 75 and have more pepper in my salt and pepper, I write my own material, and it's better.

Jon, off to the corn field!

[highplainsdem]

8. +1,000,000

[elleng]

7. Sounds frustrated.

No magic here.

[Cha]

9. I knew Monday night Stewart would be an Asshole.. TY for Jo!

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TY

[betsuni]

11. Don't know why anyone thinks this is new. He's been a firm Both Sides believer for a long time.

[LakeArenal]

12. I knew not to watch him tonight.

He’s a jerk on Biden.

As time goes on his opinion gets less relevant.

[Cha]

16. I haven't watched him in a long time

and don't plan to.

[betsuni]

18. It started during the Obama administration, by the time he ended the show I noticed

him doing it more and the audience didn't laugh because things that aren't true aren't funny. Was glad he wasn't around for the 2016 election.

[Cha]

20. So right.. good way to put it..

".. Things that aren't true Aren't funny.."

Yeah don't get up there and lie .

I'm betting Obama is a lot funnier!

[UTUSN]

42. Thank you! I've thought this for decades & everybody else idolizes him.

[betsuni]

15. "Authoritarianism and Donald Trump aren't the only threats our democracy faces."

No, it's Biden's "suffocating gerontocracy" "arthritic status quo" because apparently Jon thinks everyone in the Biden administration (maybe the whole bad Democratic Establishment) is old and will destroy America with oldness. Accuses Biden campaign of lying, "blatant bullshit." Suddenly it's a big shock that campaigns do politics and defend their candidate.

But Trump is fine because everyone already knows he's crazy. Jon thinks both sides are the same. Go into a room with with starving rabid tigers and a kittycat and spend all your time warning about how dangerous the kittycat is.

[shrike3]

17. Suffocating gerontocracy? What?

Biden has been more progressive than most politicians I've seen in my lifetime.

Ever since Stewart showed up on Colbert and started rambling about bats that couldn't possibly carry Covid, he's been suspect.

[betsuni]

19. Most progressive policies, most diverse administration ever -- *poof* disappears because same as 2016,

make it all about one person and attack their character and health and morals. It's nuts. That old both sides anti-establishment anti-Democratic BS really needs to stop already.

[Cha]

22. Gawd JS is full of Geriatric Shit! What Does Stewart know?

Besides We have the Best People Standing UP For Pres Biden AND Democracy

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Oh and yeah.. TSF isn't the only Threat... There's Greedy Billionaires Galore, Millions of Braindead Cult Idiots, the Fucking US MEIDA.. Looking at you Jon. and the Fucking NYT.

For now.

[Xolodno]

21. I get what he is saying, however....

...its way too late to replace Biden. Campaigns at the national stage start almost two years prior. You just can't substitute someone this late in the game. Should Biden lose to Trump, DU will be a hot bed of "we should have replaced him". No, either way, we will still have lost.

But I'll say it again, keeping this crap in the media front is pointless. Move on and get ready to fight another day. You can't win battles you have already lost.

[dualboy24]

23. The majority of Democrats and liberals agree with what Stewart said.

And we can see that from pulling with Wall Street journal, and others,

I really love when he pulled out the Trump chart, showing just how Trump has been off the chart for years, but we can all say Biden is definitely not as sharp, or as fit as he was just a handful of years ago. The debate performance was very eye-opening to myself.

Still Trump's been gone for about 10 days now, we can all just pray that he's having some crazy breakdown, who knows.

I think his handlers are just trying to put him more in the center, he will never lose the rights vote, they may be trying to capture undecided and those that are center right.

[Cha]

24. No you're wrong .. We Have the Best People Supporting Pres Biden

Now.

[betsuni]

26. If Trump's been off the chart for years but Biden isn't anywhere near that on any level, what's

the false equivalency panic? Please explain what exactly the problem is.

[dualboy24]

44. My worry is Trump 2.0

And that Biden is not going to inspire or bring out the vote, a lot of left people may not get out to vote or see a depressed turnout for Biden if they feel he is not up to the role.

I hope that is not the case, but from what I am seeing in the polls, and on most forums is that people are not happy with how the Democrats have handled this primary/election so far.

I mean its so frustrating considering Biden and his admin have been able to accomplish quite a bit of bipartisan work, like the infrastructure act, chips act, inflation reduction act, and of course working towards fixing drug prices, but 90% of the average voter do not know this, and they just see higher cost of living, a huge border problem, and stagnant wages in many cases, plus the taxes will be going up for a good percentage.

Scary times, and I wish we had very inspirational and energized, and sharp Biden running things, but int he past 4 years he has aged what feels like 20. I just was looking at the debate performances from his 2012 run and it is like night and day how much more vibrant and sharp he was.

[betsuni]

46. No Democrat is going to magically "inspire" voters, though. That's a 2016 populist myth about flawed candidates

not inspiring everyone with absurd revolution promises, rigging primary elections with establishment status quo corruption because they're worse than Republicans and only think about money,

Biden has never been that great at talking. Duh. G.W.Bush had books about his Bishisms, bizarre things he said. Nobody panicked.

[dualboy24]

47. He used to be quite sharp

Just 12 years ago Biden did a great job at the debates as VP for a second term.

He has just lost his sharpness and ability to function at full capacity after hours. He really should retire, he has done his best and has provided good service to the country the past 4 years, but he has also really slowed down quite a bit in that time.

[claudette]

29. No

We don’t agree with him on this

[obamanut2012]

38. lol sure, Jan

[edisdead]

39. The f%#?

[emulatorloo]

43. Uh-huh, Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal - that 'Democratic' bastion of 'liberal thought.'

/s

[dualboy24]

45. True

but it is considered to be relatively a reliable centrist source for polling data.

If you don't like that you can check 538 where they have many sources showing the same thing. The trend needs to be reversed if there is any chance in Nov.

[moniss]

25. Expect it to grow louder still

and maybe someone should ask JS some questions about whether he has always been so ignorant or is this just a recent "selling out" to pile on top of any others he may have made or is in the process of making. He has clearly stated he didn't really want Joe in 2020 and he has, as far as I can see, never come over to actually giving credit for the many things this administration has done.

By his own admission he voted for Bush Sr. over Dukakis and he said he found Bush Sr. to have "an integrity about him that I respected greatly." That's right the same Bush Sr. who was knee deep in Iran-Contra and the killing of church workers in Central America. That alone is all I need to know about how deep he actually researches anything or about his judgement. He along with Bill Maher can take their sanctimonious rich boy, pretend "common man" attitude and stick it straight up their backsides.

[nuxvomica]

27. Stewart no longer understands politics or comedy

Here's the official trailer, with all the funniest bits, for his 2020 political comedy. Despite a great supporting cast it's one of the least funny movies ever made:

[betsuni]

30. Yes, not funny because absurd obviously false equivalencies. A weird fantasy world.

[claudette]

28. Personally

I can’t stand Jon Stewart. Haven’t watched him for a long time.

[agingdem]

31. Jon Stewart and Rob Reiner are as relevant today as

a 1970's protest band on a failed comeback tour..

[captain queeg]

32. John John. What the hell happened to you?

Et tu John?

[duckworth969]

35. Stopped listening to him a few years ago

Entertaining? Sometimes.

Self-righteous know-it-all? Always.

[shrike3]

37. Jon is 62. In his business, that's ancient.

To me, he sounds like yet another rich white guy projecting his own hang-ups.

[Johonny]

40. If 4 months is forever in modern politics

Why is he panicking over one June debate? Perhaps because he's panicking about the idea of a female black president?

I'm warming up to the idea these white men are fearing Joe's age because they know a Joe win has a strong probability of a Harris presidency and that scares them.

[Renew Deal]

41. Because no one has beaten father time.

Circumstances can change but time moves on.

The speculation about race is lazy thinking. It doesn't address the core issues. Stewart voted for Hillary and Obama and we're now supposed to believe he's sexist and racist? I don't think so.

[Wingus Dingus]

48. The clip of Biden discussing meeting Mitterand was pretty awful--

it was worse IMO than his debate. Hard to unsee these things.

[highplainsdem]

49. You've never said the wrong name by mistake and failed to catch the mistake at the time?

I'll bet you have...and that you'd have heard about it if everything you said in public was recorded and made the news.

It happens a lot to both politicians and journalists.

I posted here back in February, when Biden was getting hell for scrambling names, about both Mike Johnson and Jesse Watters, who went after Biden for his lapses, doing the same thing within days - and there was no media frenzy over their mistakes.

That sort of thing happens all the time, whether it's a weatherman naming the wrong town while looking at the correct name, or a parent or teacher naming the wrong kid. Often it's caught by someone else saying "You mean _____" and no one thinks anything of it. It doesn't get corrected if it's in a speech, and then it can get repeated more.

it's almost always ignored, shrugged off, unless it happens to an opponent, when it instantly gets latched onto as proof of dementia.

[Wingus Dingus]

50. It's not even the Mitterand mistake so much, he just doesn't look well.

Literally looks and sounds woozy.