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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI could be very wrong about this but from what I've been observing
it seems that President Biden's biggest defenders are people of color, such as Hakeem Jeffries, Jasmine Crockett, AOC, Whoopi Goldberg, while those that have been pushing him the hardest to step down are affluent white men, such as Jon Stewart, Rob Reiner, Stephen King, James Carville and a guy from Virginia. Now this is not true in every case in that there are many white people like Bernie Sanders who've spoken out in support of the President, but there does seem to be a pattern.
Again I could be totally wrong about this and it could just be my imagination.
shrike3
(5,370 posts)And the affluent white guys are jumping ship.
Mister Ed
(6,949 posts)It seems to me that people of color, and especially Black women voters, have been busy saving the nation for decades. If we follow them and support them, maybe they'll save us once again.
greymattermom
(5,807 posts)From Trump's absence. Those folks don't realize that if their plan gets Trump elected, they will be on the kill list.
edisdead
(3,396 posts)If trump wins they will all be on vacation overseas a few weeks before he takes power. Loooooong vacations. Perhaps even move there.
erronis
(24,148 posts)It might prolong their life by one or two years but war and/or climate will get to them eventually.
Bettie
(19,788 posts)Those affluent white men would all benefit from further tax cuts from that orange man too.
Plus, if things get bad here, they can all go almost anywhere in the world to live, because if you have money, just about any country will take you. They will never have to face the consequences of a second trump term in any real way.
Scully
(96 posts)I always ask myself.... who stands to benefit the most from what is being called for (yelled about, etc.), and their motivations are often illuminating.
calimary
(90,382 posts)It can explain TONS of things.
OneGrassRoot
(23,954 posts)While the white men in question are usually considered allies, they may subconsciously be pushing against the visible smash the white patriarchy trend. They desperately want to continue to be seen as thought leaders and Oh Wise Ones and to be adored
by someone.
I understand that those who work for Big Media are likely influenced by their networks narrative but Olbermann and Stephen King, for example, dont have that constraint.
So, idk. Its very, very disappointing though.
Bettie
(19,788 posts)they see themselves as the wise elders....and this time around, people aren't listening to their pronouncements with the reverence they are accustomed to.
Traurigkeit
(1,290 posts)ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)Pluvious
(5,424 posts)FWIW I've been following his Twitter feed for years
shrike3
(5,370 posts)Attilatheblond
(9,070 posts)Media Moguls might just be threatening jobs of the talent
You dont have to be repug/maga/con to benefit from treasury looting tax cuts.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)A few people are either trying to cash in on the media exposure, trying to stir up ratings, don't undetstand how switching him out would sink our chances, or want trump to win.
Nikossitti
(341 posts)The black communityblack women in particularhave saved this countrys ass.
jmbar2
(8,052 posts)We owe them a huge debt of gratitude for pushing democracy as far as it got before now.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)delisen
(7,402 posts)Axelrod has been anti- Biden 2nd term for years and immediately came out against him re debate.
Most are men but Claire McCaskill was an immediate alarmist re debate.
I think the failure of both these paid commentators to act in a disciplined fashion was very damaging.
SocialDemocrat61
(7,786 posts)but back in 2008 a friend involved in the Obama campaign told me that Axelrod wanted Evan Bayh for VP and was vehemently opposed to Obama picking Biden. Again this was second or third hand so I confirm how accurate it is.
kimbutgar
(27,375 posts)Biden was the best VP who probably gave good guidance to Obama on how to navigate the White House and deal,with congress.
yobrault1
(206 posts)how to negotiate getting it passed with the Tea Party wing nuts poised to wipeout the dem majority in Obama's first midterm elections. Without Joe, Obamacare would not exist. Don't be fooled into thinking Obama could have achieved that with a less experienced statesman.
kimbutgar
(27,375 posts)yardwork
(69,474 posts)My children have health insurance because of it. I'm beyond grateful to them.
LisaM
(29,666 posts)His sole connection to the Democratic party is Obama, who would have been elected if his campaign had been run by a Muppet. Axelrod's sniffing disdain for Hillary Clinton put him on my s**t list years ago.
Axelrod (wrongly, IMO) thinks of himself as a kingmaker. Huey Long he is not.
awesomerwb1
(5,116 posts)I ask: Did the Biden Admininistration or Obama Administration accomplish more?
I think jealous is showing it's ugly face.
Plus Biden is reflecting the needs of the people. Obama was and I believe still is a neoliberal trained at Harvard Law school.
Baitball Blogger
(52,525 posts)but I just unfollowed Stephen King on Facebook.
50 Shades Of Blue
(11,447 posts)Beck23
(411 posts)This smells suspiciously like a massive psyop.
japple
(10,459 posts)Atlanta mayor, Keisha Lance Bottoms. Both from Georgia. I think we're going to win GA again!
Beck23
(411 posts)What is funny about Mark Warner from Virginia is that he never would have initially been elected, except that a lot of people thought they were voting for John Warner, the retired Republican.
twodogsbarking
(19,020 posts)dlk
(13,289 posts)n/t
orangecrush
(30,693 posts)Is a great tool for dividing people.
Been used by oppressors since forever.
The Democratic party needs to pull together, all of us.
ramapo
(4,777 posts)It's one thing to battle MAGA Republicans but this onslaught by Democrats is just too much. I fear that this just destroys everything.... Memories are short and who knows what happens between now and November but this is like nothing I ever imagined
Beck23
(411 posts)Only a handful of people, and a media psyop.
There are a handful of Republicans who don't want trump to be their nominee, but why aren't their voices being amplified by the media?
ConstanceCee
(374 posts)This is our former governor and current U.S. senator, Mark Warner.
Bobstandard
(2,335 posts)wryter2000
(47,940 posts)Thanks for posting
XanaDUer2
(15,772 posts)Explaining "concerns". And Biden supported him in his fledgling career
TRHST82
(57 posts)Biden staying in is probably the best of a bad situation. You know Republicans wouldn't cave.
Susan Calvin
(2,452 posts)To realize the chaos this would cause, if nothing else.
Grammy23
(6,124 posts)Every time I turn on the TV or look online, another Big Wig Dem comes out against Biden. What are they doing? Just seeing how long they can drag out the pile on? I am way beyond disgusted with these whiners and cry babies. Where is their loyalty? Their dedication to party and principle? All they know is someone, somewhere decided we must kick Joe to the curb. No chance for redemption or taking a few deep breaths to think everything through. Pros and cons.
I dont care if god almighty descends from the clouds, if Biden feels he is up to the job and keeps performing like I saw on TV with my own eyes in Raleigh, Ill vote for the Democratic ticket. These Dems who are like rats fleeing a sinking ship are disgusting. And THEIR opinions mean squat to me.
Sogo
(7,244 posts)Spot on.
Everyone has had a knee jerk reaction rather than waiting to hear from Biden!
hay rick
(9,656 posts)The Biden's age narrative has almost run its course. Time to boost the Biden as candidate for blacks (at the expense of whites, wink, wink) narrative.
ananda
(35,309 posts)He's not going to step down, so I'm
not worried about it.
It's the fucking media that's so evil.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)I don't trust them at all. The news shows don't get my eyes and the local radio is a mystery to me. I even forgot the frequency of the local news station.
Marcus IM
(3,001 posts)I was told that ugliness innumerable times when I moved to the USA.
carpetbagger
(5,494 posts)In their lives, delivery of message is the actual thing rather than nomination/appointments, management, and policy.
bigtree
(94,450 posts)...just sayin'.
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raccoon
(32,426 posts)King alerted his followers to Trump and his cronies pushing Project 2025.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219115722
SocialDemocrat61
(7,786 posts)raccoon
(32,426 posts)If the worse should happen, a lot of people need to be told,
"You asked for it--you got it."
and it wasn't Toyota.
Mosby
(19,491 posts)You must have forgotten about Sanders and Fetterman who have vigorously defended Biden.
SocialDemocrat61
(7,786 posts)Mosby
(19,491 posts)Didn't notice the sanders reference. Regardless, you making this about race isn't helpful.
SocialDemocrat61
(7,786 posts)And youre free to agree or disagree.
MustLoveBeagles
(16,878 posts)Where's their damn loyalty? Is money really that much more important to them? Silly questions I know.