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Peacetrain

(23,604 posts)
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 11:47 AM Jul 2024

I do not know how else to put this.. President Biden has become the Peoples President

Media, Corporates, Famous Actors, and Pundits are telling the man we elected to step down. 39 days from the Convention Yes they have money, and they sit in circles and talk to one another.. They play phone tag I imagine, and then tell us what their decisions are and we are supposed to just roll over and play dead

Do they give us any reasons.. NO

Enough of the privilege already.. If you have nothing to say.. then stop trying to kneecap our President

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I do not know how else to put this.. President Biden has become the Peoples President (Original Post) Peacetrain Jul 2024 OP
Piss on all of them. President Joe Biden is not done. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2024 #1
All of them are rich. That is the deal here. valleyrogue Jul 2024 #2
100%! CaptainTruth Jul 2024 #8
They are all uber rich DENVERPOPS Jul 2024 #56
I know plenty of "peoples" who feel the same way. not just the "privileged" brooklynite Jul 2024 #3
I don't think they're talking about the help. BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #5
......... 58Sunliner Jul 2024 #40
Always has been the "peoples" President. republianmushroom Jul 2024 #4
True that Peacetrain Jul 2024 #6
Well said. The naysayers are rich elites. CaptainTruth Jul 2024 #7
And each of them ONLY HAS ONE VOTE APIECE. That's why we need to call ALL of our senators and reps BComplex Jul 2024 #34
Biden is too wonky of a public servant. That doesn't sell newspapers or cause people to tune in ffr Jul 2024 #9
Remember France Blue Full Moon Jul 2024 #10
Amen... Moostache Jul 2024 #18
Gonna need a bigger rope... unweird Jul 2024 #36
France has two rounds of votes, two weeks apart. Justice matters. Jul 2024 #21
THIS RIGHT HERE 👆👆👆 BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 #52
Unfortunately, polls were showing that a lot of people were uncomfortable with Biden's age ... BlueCheeseAgain Jul 2024 #11
Will this be your first election or the first for those you've had conversations with? ffr Jul 2024 #12
Mentioning attire. DiamondShark Jul 2024 #16
And dijon mustard.... Evolve Dammit Jul 2024 #50
That's funny I think of Obama every time I eat Grey Poupon mustard Walleye Jul 2024 #54
Me too! They even politicized Mustard. Don't forget "Freedom Fries" when pre-MAGA vilified France Evolve Dammit Jul 2024 #60
BlueCheese.. Were you on the boards in 2020..We had brutal battles about Joes age Peacetrain Jul 2024 #19
It's not his age as the sole reason for concern Melon Jul 2024 #63
They were uncomfortable because the GOP and MSM repeated it endlessly Raven123 Jul 2024 #27
It's not age for them. BlueCheeseAgain Jul 2024 #41
"polls were showing that a lot of people " Which 'chosen' people were in the poll and by whom were they chosen ? Traurigkeit Jul 2024 #42
Poll methodologies are generally public, at least among the more reputable pollsters. BlueCheeseAgain Jul 2024 #44
Can't trust the 'paid' help Traurigkeit Jul 2024 #45
What can I say? BlueCheeseAgain Jul 2024 #46
Your answer is correct Traurigkeit Jul 2024 #47
Orange Anus is only three years behind and has dementia in his genes (Fred) Evolve Dammit Jul 2024 #48
Hear, hear!!! Moostache Jul 2024 #13
Sooner DiamondShark Jul 2024 #14
agree bigtree Jul 2024 #15
Who are you trying to convince? iemanja Jul 2024 #17
lemanja..I think you are posting to me.. sometimes it is hard to tell what post goes to who Peacetrain Jul 2024 #20
Your point of view is echoed by dozens of posters every day iemanja Jul 2024 #51
I don't like your responses. edisdead Jul 2024 #55
He's another FDR type President. Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #22
Scranton Joe doesn't need the likes of George Clooney flamingdem Jul 2024 #23
flamingdem, I have been thinking about this for a while now Peacetrain Jul 2024 #25
This. Why the hell should George Clooney's opinion hold more weightt Iris Jul 2024 #24
Here is my cOnSPiRaCy tHeOrY markodochartaigh Jul 2024 #26
It would have been unprecedented for Anyone to step run against Biden nvme Jul 2024 #57
It is sadly ironic that markodochartaigh Jul 2024 #61
Agreed. LymphocyteLover Jul 2024 #28
Too many corporation are resentful at the thought of paying their fair share of taxes dlk Jul 2024 #29
They also chafe at regulations, particularly the ones that protect environment and workers. Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #32
When it comes to regulations corporations can be like badly behaved children dlk Jul 2024 #37
As David Letterman used to say... dchill Jul 2024 #30
Yeah, but GOP and the media moguls that support them don't give a damn what the people want Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #31
We the people of the Democratic party selected President Biden. StarryNite Jul 2024 #33
But this is exactly the right term for Pres. Biden: the People's President. planetc Jul 2024 #35
planetc Oh I wish I had come up with that.. someone I was in a conversation with a few days ago Peacetrain Jul 2024 #38
Did I say I cared who thought of it first? No. planetc Jul 2024 #59
President Biden exists, Trump exists Progressive dog Jul 2024 #39
And We Have the Very Best People!! Cha Jul 2024 #43
Yes we do Cha!! yes we do Peacetrain Jul 2024 #49
Mahalo for your OP, Peacetrain! Cha Jul 2024 #53
Screw them! karin_sj Jul 2024 #58
I honestly believe the PTB dweller Jul 2024 #62
The People's President! Oh MAN, Peacetrain, do I love that!!! calimary Jul 2024 #64
well said 4catsmom Jul 2024 #65

valleyrogue

(859 posts)
2. All of them are rich. That is the deal here.
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 11:56 AM
Jul 2024

They have no clue what it is like to live in the real world.

They should be ignored.

These people, aware or not, are supporting fascism in the US by wanting to dump the one person who stands in the way of it, Biden.

DENVERPOPS

(9,850 posts)
56. They are all uber rich
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 05:38 PM
Jul 2024

& looking forwards to even more massive tax cuts for Rich and Corporations like Trump shoved through during his last presidency.....

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
3. I know plenty of "peoples" who feel the same way. not just the "privileged"
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 11:57 AM
Jul 2024

Doesn't mean they want Trump to win.

CaptainTruth

(7,160 posts)
7. Well said. The naysayers are rich elites.
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 12:30 PM
Jul 2024

They're out of touch with the grass roots.

And they're pissing me off because they're working against our efforts to save our country.

BComplex

(8,980 posts)
34. And each of them ONLY HAS ONE VOTE APIECE. That's why we need to call ALL of our senators and reps
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 02:43 PM
Jul 2024

and let them know we think this is a horrible idea, unless they really want trump to win.
Senators:
https://www.senate.gov/senators/index.htm

Representatives:
https://www.house.gov/representatives#state-nebraska

ffr

(23,072 posts)
9. Biden is too wonky of a public servant. That doesn't sell newspapers or cause people to tune in
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 12:35 PM
Jul 2024

But WWIII? Now that will get ratings and sell advertising!

Which candidate will help them out with that?

Blue Full Moon

(811 posts)
10. Remember France
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 12:37 PM
Jul 2024

The news and polls were showing right wing as the winners. After everything was said and done, the facists were shown the door.

Moostache

(10,115 posts)
18. Amen...
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 01:00 PM
Jul 2024

POTUS 2020? 2nd Trump term? Rejected it once, will reject it again in November...
Mid-Year 2022? Red wave? Tsunami, even? More like a mill-pond non-event...
Off-year 2023 - Abortion rights in OH? IA? Did not lose ONCE...

Its time to stop wetting our collective pants and get on with the business of hanging Project 2025 and his own malfeasance around the neck of the Tangerine Mussolini-wannabe.

BIDEN-HARRIS 2024

unweird

(2,939 posts)
36. Gonna need a bigger rope...
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 03:01 PM
Jul 2024

And hang that Project 2025 bullshit around all of the fascist Republican party.

Justice matters.

(7,431 posts)
21. France has two rounds of votes, two weeks apart.
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 01:23 PM
Jul 2024

The first round's results showed the far-right dangerously close to winning, which scared the hell out of the "non-voters" because, who cares, right? They're "all the same" right?

So guess what, the second round saw the lazy non voters got so scared they would lose their democracy that they rushed to the voting booths to reverse the first-round's disastrous results.

The US should have two rounds, four weeks apart too! Maybe the lazy non voters who want social-democratic policies would wake up scared shitless after the first round if the convicted felon was to win the first one?

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,939 posts)
11. Unfortunately, polls were showing that a lot of people were uncomfortable with Biden's age ...
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 12:43 PM
Jul 2024

... long before the debate. It's not just an "elites" kind of thing. Since the debate, these numbers have gone up.

Also unfortunately, in my own anecdotal conversations in real life, it's the same story. I wish it weren't the case, but it is.

ffr

(23,072 posts)
12. Will this be your first election or the first for those you've had conversations with?
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 12:53 PM
Jul 2024

I'm just wondering if WWIII is more comforting to you and those you're having conversations with. Because, we've been through this same thing in 2016 and it was the people who were uncomfortable with Hillary Clinton's age or hair color or attire that got us Donald poopy-pants and a SCOTUS that's literally out of control.

I wish you and your friends well in whatever decision you decide in your first election cycle. You can choose to make the same mistakes that were made and we all pay the price for it or you figure it out, we all vote en-mass to keep moving forward with our democracy and we work out the 'uncomfortable details' AFTER this election cycle.

Peacetrain

(23,604 posts)
19. BlueCheese.. Were you on the boards in 2020..We had brutal battles about Joes age
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 01:01 PM
Jul 2024

We had DU members younger than Joe was at the time testifying to the fact they could not do that kind of pressure.. But those of us who supported him, fought the good fight just like we are doing now.. He won.. He more than proved his mettle. He has been an excellent President. He is today what he was yesterday, last week, last month.. last year,, four years ago..

They cannot just suddenly come out with.. we are uncomfortable with his age today.. Where were these people a few months ago when the primaries were going on. Crickets nothing.

Being uncomfortable because he is an old man is not a reason.. Trump is older than Joe was when he first took office. Joe is a proven.. can I repeat that.. proven candidate. He defeated him. He won again with the primary season this year

Now a month out from the convention all this concern.

Melon

(150 posts)
63. It's not his age as the sole reason for concern
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 11:53 PM
Jul 2024

We are all on board with Joe if he’s the nominee. But his debate + messing up some speeches immediately after have people questioning his cognitive ability. There are a lot of people questioning his actual function level. Not his age. His function. It’s not the same thing.

Raven123

(5,911 posts)
27. They were uncomfortable because the GOP and MSM repeated it endlessly
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 02:06 PM
Jul 2024

At what age is “age” an issue? Neither Trump or Biden were young in 2020. The psychological warfare worked.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,939 posts)
41. It's not age for them.
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 03:54 PM
Jul 2024

It's cognitive status. If they thought Biden was the same person he was in 2020, they'd be fine with him.

Don't get me wrong-- they think Trump lost his marbles years and years ago. They think he's utterly disqualified.

 

Traurigkeit

(1,290 posts)
42. "polls were showing that a lot of people " Which 'chosen' people were in the poll and by whom were they chosen ?
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 04:09 PM
Jul 2024

Evolve Dammit

(18,346 posts)
48. Orange Anus is only three years behind and has dementia in his genes (Fred)
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 04:55 PM
Jul 2024

Why is MSM not calling out that? In the bag for Orange Boy. Fuck ‘em.

Moostache

(10,115 posts)
13. Hear, hear!!!
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 12:56 PM
Jul 2024

Could not agree more...

I said elsewhere - we have a winning TICKET - two qualified and capable stewards of the American Experiment, with Harris being imminently qualified to step-in IF and ONLY IF necessary in 2025 and beyond.

The GOP is running a convicted felon, who still faces charges of stealing (and very likely selling) American Intelligence documents and secrets, and no named VP candidate - but a short list of absolute bootlicking imbeciles.

BIDEN-HARRIS 2024

DiamondShark

(977 posts)
14. Sooner
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 12:57 PM
Jul 2024

The Ohio general election ballot deadline is going to make the DNC have a "virtual roll call." Governor DeWine has signed the law pushing the deadline to after the DNC convention. But recent reporting showed the virtual roll call is going forward.

iemanja

(54,542 posts)
17. Who are you trying to convince?
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 12:59 PM
Jul 2024

You all say this forty times a day. Why? The point is settled. It's time to move on.

Peacetrain

(23,604 posts)
20. lemanja..I think you are posting to me.. sometimes it is hard to tell what post goes to who
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 01:09 PM
Jul 2024

But if my point of view is bothersome to you, I would suggest you do not look at my ops .. Because I am in here for the long haul. And I will be doing it 50 times a day if I have the time. If this post was not meant for me.. so sorry.. that is why I put names in my headers a lot of times so who ever I am responding to knows it them the post was meant for.

iemanja

(54,542 posts)
51. Your point of view is echoed by dozens of posters every day
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 04:59 PM
Jul 2024

It looks to me like you're trying to convince yourselves, as though you aren't sure.

You post in public, you need to be prepared for responses, even those you don't like.

flamingdem

(39,843 posts)
23. Scranton Joe doesn't need the likes of George Clooney
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 01:46 PM
Jul 2024

We're surviving a string of blows.

I'm ridin 100x more with Joe!

Peacetrain

(23,604 posts)
25. flamingdem, I have been thinking about this for a while now
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 01:54 PM
Jul 2024

When President Joe wins the election.. I am expecting a wheelbarrow load of apologies from some pols and pundits and actors for all the rigmarole they have put us through.. We are Democrats and we will come back together.. that is our wheelhouse.. Fight like cat and dogs and come back together to meet our goals.. But right now there are some people I would love to smack on the back of the head and ask,, what the hell were you thinking?? We have to win this NOW

Iris

(15,989 posts)
24. This. Why the hell should George Clooney's opinion hold more weightt
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 01:53 PM
Jul 2024

than the ordinary people who came out to vote in the primary.

markodochartaigh

(1,895 posts)
26. Here is my cOnSPiRaCy tHeOrY
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 01:58 PM
Jul 2024

Surely we remember when the glitterati and elites were trying to come up with someone acceptable to them who could actually beat Trump. They picked Joe Biden because he was the only one who had a good chance of beating Trump and was acceptable to both the left in the Democratic party and the elites. But Dark Brandon did an end run around the elites, walking a picket line, forgiving as many student loans as possible, etc. Now a few of these elites are trying to get back at President Biden. Hopefully we will not be complicit in this.

nvme

(870 posts)
57. It would have been unprecedented for Anyone to step run against Biden
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 06:10 PM
Jul 2024

Newsom was increasing his profile prior to Biden announcing his run for re-election. Once Biden announced, Newsom respected him and gave full throated support. The only ones who didn't were deemed crackpots.
I was glad to see Biden resoundingly defeat the dumpster fire.
I watch all of the debates from 2020, and felt confident Biden was the only one who could do it. His arguments were clear, his statements were supported, and he had the confidence in what he was talking about.

After watching the debate in June and rewatching the 2020 debate I am concerned. I see stark differences in his abilities. I know that as a democratic party member I will vote D in this coming election across the board.
I agree most if not all democratic party members will do the same.

The independent voters are what will affect the outcome. They are the ones who saw the debates as well. I feel that we are losing them. Without them we will see another dumpster fire start again in 2025.

I am a clinical psychologist and I have worked on several Alzheimer's research projects measuring cognitive decline in longitudinal studies. I have not evaluated either of the presidents. So I would not even attempt to make diagnosis. I have observed their differences between the last three debates between them. I observed both nonverbal and verbal communication and the contrasts are obvious.

markodochartaigh

(1,895 posts)
61. It is sadly ironic that
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 08:46 PM
Jul 2024

the voters who decide maybe the most important election in human history (given the existential and imminent threat of anthropogenic climate change and the Republicans stance on the issue) will probably be the least engaged and informed (as opposed to the Maga Republicans being malinformed).

I think that the real problem now is the same as it was in 1980. It seems to me that without an engaged and informed electorate democracy is unlikely to produce good long-term results.

Personally I think that President Biden has been the best president since LBJ, and I would vote for any alternative to an authoritarian Strong Leader.

dlk

(12,237 posts)
29. Too many corporation are resentful at the thought of paying their fair share of taxes
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 02:16 PM
Jul 2024

They are also bitter about the possibility of their obscene level of profits being reduced. They believe they are entitled and will stop at nothing to preserve their primacy status.

Lest we forget, Putin is busy, as well, with his minions and trolls working overtime to take down our democracy. Russians have the best kompromat.

Democrats must stay strong and united for this is the fight of our lifetimes.

Attilatheblond

(4,090 posts)
32. They also chafe at regulations, particularly the ones that protect environment and workers.
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 02:33 PM
Jul 2024

They figure they have enough people totally hypnotized by marketing that now's the time to finish us off.

dlk

(12,237 posts)
37. When it comes to regulations corporations can be like badly behaved children
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 03:01 PM
Jul 2024

“You’re not the boss of me…”. They can’t be trusted to behave as responsible adults, as there will always be bad actors, and so regulations are essential.

We all need to read (or re-read) “Manufacturing Consent,” by Noam Chomsky

Corporations have manipulated too much authority in the marketplace and in our government. They see Biden’s push toward fairness for the middle class a threat and so they are doing absolutely everything to tank his candidacy.

Attilatheblond

(4,090 posts)
31. Yeah, but GOP and the media moguls that support them don't give a damn what the people want
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 02:31 PM
Jul 2024

They prove that over and over. One hopes voters (the ones still allowed to vote in GOP controlled states) drop some hard truth on the moguls who just can't wait to take control and end democracy.

StarryNite

(10,657 posts)
33. We the people of the Democratic party selected President Biden.
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 02:39 PM
Jul 2024

Who the f*ck do they think they are to tell us our votes did not count?!

planetc

(8,201 posts)
35. But this is exactly the right term for Pres. Biden: the People's President.
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 02:50 PM
Jul 2024

From your lips to the Biden campaign's ears. When he talks about kitchen table issues, I know in my heart he's talking about the same kind of table my parents met at and I did my homework on. I'm not sure TFG has ever seen a kitchen table in his life.

What are we fearing when we say he's old? We're afraid he'll get cancer, dementia, arthritis, or stroke. May I remind us all that you can get any of those afflictions at any age, even dementia. He's living in the White House, where excellent medical attendants are hovering in case they're needed. Also, John Kennedy was forty years younger when he was serving, and in worse health than Joe Biden is now. The dangers Pres. Biden faces are the ones we all face. The age he's at is the age I'm at, but he is about 32 times more accomplished and experienced at government than I am. And lastly, if he does get stricken with something, V.P. Harris is standing right there to pick up the burden and carry it. I don't see that we could have a better team in this year of crazed pundits.

So all of this is why I will enthusiastically vote for Biden & Harris with no qualms about oldness. I have observed that some people, when their bodies age, get younger mentally. They no longer fear doing the wrong thing, or bending the rules, or being uncool. Joe Biden is not cool--he's hot, and he's on a roll. Nothing that the NYT has said has changed my opinion of the Democratic candidate.

So go on talking to yourselves and the rest of the pundit class, Times; the people are not deceived.

Peacetrain

(23,604 posts)
38. planetc Oh I wish I had come up with that.. someone I was in a conversation with a few days ago
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 03:10 PM
Jul 2024

about media and how we missed just plain facts.. things had become so much like the tabloids in England.. which led to a conversation about how they chased Harry and Meghan out.. and chased Princess Diane the Peoples Princess to her death basically.. and the person I was talking to brought it all back around to President Joe and said He truly is the Peoples President Respected by the common person

planetc

(8,201 posts)
59. Did I say I cared who thought of it first? No.
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 08:00 PM
Jul 2024

Whether it was your tabloid-savvy friend or you, I was glad you published immediately. The Biden team now has a chance to steal from you or whomever. Footnotes are not required.

Progressive dog

(7,195 posts)
39. President Biden exists, Trump exists
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 03:30 PM
Jul 2024

The desired replacement for President Biden is so popular and sure to win that the anti-Bidens can't agree on who it is. You can't beat Trump without a candidate.

karin_sj

(1,037 posts)
58. Screw them!
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 07:53 PM
Jul 2024

George and his rich, white cohorts are going to fine no matter what happens in this election. They can just move to one of their many vacation homes throughout the world. The rest of us will be stuck here in a hellish shell of a country where we have no power, rights, or basic services anymore. Even the right to vote will be taken away from us. It irks the crap out of me what these people and the horrendously complicit media are trying to do to us, against our will.

dweller

(24,731 posts)
62. I honestly believe the PTB
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 10:17 PM
Jul 2024

Are scared shitless , not just that Biden will win , but we will take back the House and control the Senate . And the peoples business will be 1st priority in the 2nd Biden presidency .
Otherwise they would be relying on the R House to do their bidding , an evenly divided Senate fighting it out and without a sure thing for an R presidency signing the tax cuts back into existence for them.

The 1% know their time is limited . ROEVEMBER is coming …


imo
✌🏻

calimary

(83,904 posts)
64. The People's President! Oh MAN, Peacetrain, do I love that!!!
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 12:55 AM
Jul 2024

That deserves to be said, read, and spread. All over everywhere!

4catsmom

(179 posts)
65. well said
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 11:07 AM
Jul 2024

Trump's mind is gone and he's approaching 80 IN ADDITION to being a criminal, rapist and neo-nazi and nobody in his cult has suggested HE needs to step down

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