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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI do not know how else to put this.. President Biden has become the Peoples President
Media, Corporates, Famous Actors, and Pundits are telling the man we elected to step down. 39 days from the Convention Yes they have money, and they sit in circles and talk to one another.. They play phone tag I imagine, and then tell us what their decisions are and we are supposed to just roll over and play dead
Do they give us any reasons.. NO
Enough of the privilege already.. If you have nothing to say.. then stop trying to kneecap our President
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,378 posts)valleyrogue
(859 posts)They have no clue what it is like to live in the real world.
They should be ignored.
These people, aware or not, are supporting fascism in the US by wanting to dump the one person who stands in the way of it, Biden.
CaptainTruth
(7,160 posts)DENVERPOPS
(9,850 posts)& looking forwards to even more massive tax cuts for Rich and Corporations like Trump shoved through during his last presidency.....
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Doesn't mean they want Trump to win.
BannonsLiver
(17,662 posts)58Sunliner
(4,937 posts)republianmushroom
(17,196 posts)Peacetrain
(23,604 posts)CaptainTruth
(7,160 posts)They're out of touch with the grass roots.
And they're pissing me off because they're working against our efforts to save our country.
BComplex
(8,980 posts)and let them know we think this is a horrible idea, unless they really want trump to win.
Senators:
https://www.senate.gov/senators/index.htm
Representatives:
https://www.house.gov/representatives#state-nebraska
ffr
(23,072 posts)But WWIII? Now that will get ratings and sell advertising!
Which candidate will help them out with that?
Blue Full Moon
(811 posts)The news and polls were showing right wing as the winners. After everything was said and done, the facists were shown the door.
Moostache
(10,115 posts)POTUS 2020? 2nd Trump term? Rejected it once, will reject it again in November...
Mid-Year 2022? Red wave? Tsunami, even? More like a mill-pond non-event...
Off-year 2023 - Abortion rights in OH? IA? Did not lose ONCE...
Its time to stop wetting our collective pants and get on with the business of hanging Project 2025 and his own malfeasance around the neck of the Tangerine Mussolini-wannabe.
BIDEN-HARRIS 2024
unweird
(2,939 posts)And hang that Project 2025 bullshit around all of the fascist Republican party.
Justice matters.
(7,431 posts)The first round's results showed the far-right dangerously close to winning, which scared the hell out of the "non-voters" because, who cares, right? They're "all the same" right?
So guess what, the second round saw the lazy non voters got so scared they would lose their democracy that they rushed to the voting booths to reverse the first-round's disastrous results.
The US should have two rounds, four weeks apart too! Maybe the lazy non voters who want social-democratic policies would wake up scared shitless after the first round if the convicted felon was to win the first one?
BumRushDaShow
(140,663 posts)BlueCheeseAgain
(1,939 posts)... long before the debate. It's not just an "elites" kind of thing. Since the debate, these numbers have gone up.
Also unfortunately, in my own anecdotal conversations in real life, it's the same story. I wish it weren't the case, but it is.
ffr
(23,072 posts)I'm just wondering if WWIII is more comforting to you and those you're having conversations with. Because, we've been through this same thing in 2016 and it was the people who were uncomfortable with Hillary Clinton's age or hair color or attire that got us Donald poopy-pants and a SCOTUS that's literally out of control.
I wish you and your friends well in whatever decision you decide in your first election cycle. You can choose to make the same mistakes that were made and we all pay the price for it or you figure it out, we all vote en-mass to keep moving forward with our democracy and we work out the 'uncomfortable details' AFTER this election cycle.
DiamondShark
(977 posts)Do you remember the outrage when Obama wore the tan suit?????
Evolve Dammit
(18,346 posts)Walleye
(34,843 posts)Evolve Dammit
(18,346 posts)Peacetrain
(23,604 posts)We had DU members younger than Joe was at the time testifying to the fact they could not do that kind of pressure.. But those of us who supported him, fought the good fight just like we are doing now.. He won.. He more than proved his mettle. He has been an excellent President. He is today what he was yesterday, last week, last month.. last year,, four years ago..
They cannot just suddenly come out with.. we are uncomfortable with his age today.. Where were these people a few months ago when the primaries were going on. Crickets nothing.
Being uncomfortable because he is an old man is not a reason.. Trump is older than Joe was when he first took office. Joe is a proven.. can I repeat that.. proven candidate. He defeated him. He won again with the primary season this year
Now a month out from the convention all this concern.
Melon
(150 posts)We are all on board with Joe if hes the nominee. But his debate + messing up some speeches immediately after have people questioning his cognitive ability. There are a lot of people questioning his actual function level. Not his age. His function. Its not the same thing.
Raven123
(5,911 posts)At what age is age an issue? Neither Trump or Biden were young in 2020. The psychological warfare worked.
BlueCheeseAgain
(1,939 posts)It's cognitive status. If they thought Biden was the same person he was in 2020, they'd be fine with him.
Don't get me wrong-- they think Trump lost his marbles years and years ago. They think he's utterly disqualified.
Traurigkeit
(1,290 posts)BlueCheeseAgain
(1,939 posts)Here's what NYT/Siena did in 2020, for example:
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/nyt-siena-poll-methodology-june-2020/f6f533b4d07f4cbe/full.pdf
Traurigkeit
(1,290 posts)BlueCheeseAgain
(1,939 posts)You asked a question. I answered it.
Traurigkeit
(1,290 posts)Those at NYT and other spaces have lost the trust built up over decades
Evolve Dammit
(18,346 posts)Why is MSM not calling out that? In the bag for Orange Boy. Fuck em.
Moostache
(10,115 posts)Could not agree more...
I said elsewhere - we have a winning TICKET - two qualified and capable stewards of the American Experiment, with Harris being imminently qualified to step-in IF and ONLY IF necessary in 2025 and beyond.
The GOP is running a convicted felon, who still faces charges of stealing (and very likely selling) American Intelligence documents and secrets, and no named VP candidate - but a short list of absolute bootlicking imbeciles.
BIDEN-HARRIS 2024
DiamondShark
(977 posts)The Ohio general election ballot deadline is going to make the DNC have a "virtual roll call." Governor DeWine has signed the law pushing the deadline to after the DNC convention. But recent reporting showed the virtual roll call is going forward.
bigtree
(89,635 posts)...this opposition is another rallying point for our nominee.
iemanja
(54,542 posts)You all say this forty times a day. Why? The point is settled. It's time to move on.
Peacetrain
(23,604 posts)But if my point of view is bothersome to you, I would suggest you do not look at my ops .. Because I am in here for the long haul. And I will be doing it 50 times a day if I have the time. If this post was not meant for me.. so sorry.. that is why I put names in my headers a lot of times so who ever I am responding to knows it them the post was meant for.
iemanja
(54,542 posts)It looks to me like you're trying to convince yourselves, as though you aren't sure.
You post in public, you need to be prepared for responses, even those you don't like.
edisdead
(3,250 posts)Joinfortmill
(16,219 posts)flamingdem
(39,843 posts)We're surviving a string of blows.
I'm ridin 100x more with Joe!
Peacetrain
(23,604 posts)When President Joe wins the election.. I am expecting a wheelbarrow load of apologies from some pols and pundits and actors for all the rigmarole they have put us through.. We are Democrats and we will come back together.. that is our wheelhouse.. Fight like cat and dogs and come back together to meet our goals.. But right now there are some people I would love to smack on the back of the head and ask,, what the hell were you thinking?? We have to win this NOW
Iris
(15,989 posts)than the ordinary people who came out to vote in the primary.
markodochartaigh
(1,895 posts)Surely we remember when the glitterati and elites were trying to come up with someone acceptable to them who could actually beat Trump. They picked Joe Biden because he was the only one who had a good chance of beating Trump and was acceptable to both the left in the Democratic party and the elites. But Dark Brandon did an end run around the elites, walking a picket line, forgiving as many student loans as possible, etc. Now a few of these elites are trying to get back at President Biden. Hopefully we will not be complicit in this.
nvme
(870 posts)Newsom was increasing his profile prior to Biden announcing his run for re-election. Once Biden announced, Newsom respected him and gave full throated support. The only ones who didn't were deemed crackpots.
I was glad to see Biden resoundingly defeat the dumpster fire.
I watch all of the debates from 2020, and felt confident Biden was the only one who could do it. His arguments were clear, his statements were supported, and he had the confidence in what he was talking about.
After watching the debate in June and rewatching the 2020 debate I am concerned. I see stark differences in his abilities. I know that as a democratic party member I will vote D in this coming election across the board.
I agree most if not all democratic party members will do the same.
The independent voters are what will affect the outcome. They are the ones who saw the debates as well. I feel that we are losing them. Without them we will see another dumpster fire start again in 2025.
I am a clinical psychologist and I have worked on several Alzheimer's research projects measuring cognitive decline in longitudinal studies. I have not evaluated either of the presidents. So I would not even attempt to make diagnosis. I have observed their differences between the last three debates between them. I observed both nonverbal and verbal communication and the contrasts are obvious.
markodochartaigh
(1,895 posts)the voters who decide maybe the most important election in human history (given the existential and imminent threat of anthropogenic climate change and the Republicans stance on the issue) will probably be the least engaged and informed (as opposed to the Maga Republicans being malinformed).
I think that the real problem now is the same as it was in 1980. It seems to me that without an engaged and informed electorate democracy is unlikely to produce good long-term results.
Personally I think that President Biden has been the best president since LBJ, and I would vote for any alternative to an authoritarian Strong Leader.
LymphocyteLover
(6,523 posts)dlk
(12,237 posts)They are also bitter about the possibility of their obscene level of profits being reduced. They believe they are entitled and will stop at nothing to preserve their primacy status.
Lest we forget, Putin is busy, as well, with his minions and trolls working overtime to take down our democracy. Russians have the best kompromat.
Democrats must stay strong and united for this is the fight of our lifetimes.
Attilatheblond
(4,090 posts)They figure they have enough people totally hypnotized by marketing that now's the time to finish us off.
dlk
(12,237 posts)Youre not the boss of me
. They cant be trusted to behave as responsible adults, as there will always be bad actors, and so regulations are essential.
We all need to read (or re-read) Manufacturing Consent, by Noam Chomsky
Corporations have manipulated too much authority in the marketplace and in our government. They see Bidens push toward fairness for the middle class a threat and so they are doing absolutely everything to tank his candidacy.
dchill
(40,146 posts)"You have crystallized my thoughts exactly."
Attilatheblond
(4,090 posts)They prove that over and over. One hopes voters (the ones still allowed to vote in GOP controlled states) drop some hard truth on the moguls who just can't wait to take control and end democracy.
StarryNite
(10,657 posts)Who the f*ck do they think they are to tell us our votes did not count?!
planetc
(8,201 posts)From your lips to the Biden campaign's ears. When he talks about kitchen table issues, I know in my heart he's talking about the same kind of table my parents met at and I did my homework on. I'm not sure TFG has ever seen a kitchen table in his life.
What are we fearing when we say he's old? We're afraid he'll get cancer, dementia, arthritis, or stroke. May I remind us all that you can get any of those afflictions at any age, even dementia. He's living in the White House, where excellent medical attendants are hovering in case they're needed. Also, John Kennedy was forty years younger when he was serving, and in worse health than Joe Biden is now. The dangers Pres. Biden faces are the ones we all face. The age he's at is the age I'm at, but he is about 32 times more accomplished and experienced at government than I am. And lastly, if he does get stricken with something, V.P. Harris is standing right there to pick up the burden and carry it. I don't see that we could have a better team in this year of crazed pundits.
So all of this is why I will enthusiastically vote for Biden & Harris with no qualms about oldness. I have observed that some people, when their bodies age, get younger mentally. They no longer fear doing the wrong thing, or bending the rules, or being uncool. Joe Biden is not cool--he's hot, and he's on a roll. Nothing that the NYT has said has changed my opinion of the Democratic candidate.
So go on talking to yourselves and the rest of the pundit class, Times; the people are not deceived.
Peacetrain
(23,604 posts)about media and how we missed just plain facts.. things had become so much like the tabloids in England.. which led to a conversation about how they chased Harry and Meghan out.. and chased Princess Diane the Peoples Princess to her death basically.. and the person I was talking to brought it all back around to President Joe and said He truly is the Peoples President Respected by the common person
planetc
(8,201 posts)Whether it was your tabloid-savvy friend or you, I was glad you published immediately. The Biden team now has a chance to steal from you or whomever. Footnotes are not required.
Progressive dog
(7,195 posts)The desired replacement for President Biden is so popular and sure to win that the anti-Bidens can't agree on who it is. You can't beat Trump without a candidate.
Cha
(304,419 posts)Peacetrain
(23,604 posts)Cha
(304,419 posts)🕯️🕊️💙🌊🇺🇸
karin_sj
(1,037 posts)George and his rich, white cohorts are going to fine no matter what happens in this election. They can just move to one of their many vacation homes throughout the world. The rest of us will be stuck here in a hellish shell of a country where we have no power, rights, or basic services anymore. Even the right to vote will be taken away from us. It irks the crap out of me what these people and the horrendously complicit media are trying to do to us, against our will.
dweller
(24,731 posts)Are scared shitless , not just that Biden will win , but we will take back the House and control the Senate . And the peoples business will be 1st priority in the 2nd Biden presidency .
Otherwise they would be relying on the R House to do their bidding , an evenly divided Senate fighting it out and without a sure thing for an R presidency signing the tax cuts back into existence for them.
The 1% know their time is limited . ROEVEMBER is coming
imo
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calimary
(83,904 posts)That deserves to be said, read, and spread. All over everywhere!
4catsmom
(179 posts)Trump's mind is gone and he's approaching 80 IN ADDITION to being a criminal, rapist and neo-nazi and nobody in his cult has suggested HE needs to step down