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global1

(26,507 posts)
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 02:30 PM Jul 2024

Will Someone Ask These People Calling For Biden To Step Down - Why They Feel He Can't .......

beat Tr**p?

1. Is it just because he had a bad debate performance?
2. Do they think that because of his age - that people will switch their votes to Tr**p?
3. Do they think that Dems who were set on voting for Biden will sit the election out because of his bad debate performance or his age.

I really want to know what their rational is.

I've said this here before - the Dems mission is to win this election. If Biden decides to stay in the race - will they not vote for him?

Don't they believe in his back-up VP? If Biden doesn't make it through this term - he has a great back-up that is step-in ready to take the reins. Don't they have confidence in Kamala Harris.

Seems easy for me to understand. Whether Biden stays in the race or he steps down and a replacement is designated - the mission doesn't change. The Dems still have to win in November.

Anyone that would have voted for Biden before the debate - because they are a Dem and they know that the mission is to beat Tr**p and the Repugs - will still vote for him.

They should also vote for his replacement - should he step down.

They will not sit the election out and not vote.

So why all the concern now that Biden can't beat Tr**p?

Are there that many undecided voters out there that will now vote for Tr**p because of Biden's age or bad debate performance?

What the hell are these people calling for Biden to drop out thinking?

If the Dems lose in November - it will be these people that will be the blame.

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Will Someone Ask These People Calling For Biden To Step Down - Why They Feel He Can't ....... (Original Post) global1 Jul 2024 OP
And I want to know who Progressive dog Jul 2024 #1
I keep asking the same thing. It's nuts. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #3
Excellent! I have made many of the same points. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #2
They don't believe people will vote for Trump...they believe people won't vote... brooklynite Jul 2024 #4
And What They Are Doing Ensures Fewer Will Vote For Democrats, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2024 #7
And who, exactly, are "these people"? NotASurfer Jul 2024 #5
Our main goal should be Diamond_Dog Jul 2024 #6
This has nothing to do with what President Biden CAN do, it's about what voters WILL do. Towlie Jul 2024 #8
Age might be part of it but I also think they don't feel he is tough enough. Tadpole Raisin Jul 2024 #9

Progressive dog

(7,602 posts)
1. And I want to know who
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 02:35 PM
Jul 2024

they want to replace him. So far this seems to be only about getting rid of Joe Biden.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
4. They don't believe people will vote for Trump...they believe people won't vote...
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 02:38 PM
Jul 2024

…or will only vote down ticket.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
7. And What They Are Doing Ensures Fewer Will Vote For Democrats, Sir
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 02:41 PM
Jul 2024

They are busy with fulfilling their own prophecy, after which, of course, they will strut and preen over just how right they were.

Assuming they remain at liberty to do so, of course....

NotASurfer

(2,369 posts)
5. And who, exactly, are "these people"?
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 02:40 PM
Jul 2024

Journalists will have credible sources, corroborated by other credible sources and documentation.

Liars start sentences with the phrase "People are saying".

Too much of the so-called reporting on this falls into the latter category.

Diamond_Dog

(40,575 posts)
6. Our main goal should be
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 02:40 PM
Jul 2024

to keep Trump out of office, period. Folks who are normally Dem voters who plan to stay home because they think Biden is too old are not helping this cause.

Towlie

(5,577 posts)
8. This has nothing to do with what President Biden CAN do, it's about what voters WILL do.
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 02:50 PM
Jul 2024

This is not like a sport where you can have confidence faith that your team will come through and win the game. This is about the undecided who are too dumb to see the major differences between the two candidates. The current controversy is very likely to tip them in the wrong direction.

Tadpole Raisin

(1,977 posts)
9. Age might be part of it but I also think they don't feel he is tough enough.
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 03:08 PM
Jul 2024

Biden likes to work with people. He has said that he understands the political arena where people say things to get elected but when the election is over they will actually work together. For most republicans those days are long gone.

The other thing is that politicians used to really begin their campaign after Labor Day. TCF changed all that. He is always campaigning. In today’s world that is what it takes. You have to constantly tell people what you have done and why the other guy is not the right choice.

You can’t do your job and think people will see it. They don’t. Another DUer wrote that he talked with someone who said Biden has done nothing. When he told her all the things Biden had done she was shocked. ‘I didn’t know that.’ I’ve heard that myself. Dems need to speak up in sound bites over and over.

TCF is good at repeating over and over again all the great things he was doing even though it’s all lies. That’s what they did in nazi Germany. It’s the illusion of truth - propaganda! and people believe it. Trump told Leslie Stahl that he constantly demeans and discredits reporters so that people won’t believe the negative stories they publish. It has worked.

Biden has said the plan is to attack, attack, attack. If he does (along with tooting his own horn and calling out repubs who tried to take credit for bills they voted against) I think he’ll be fine. If he doesn’t, doesn’t do it enough or concisely without wandering off topic, or waits too long it will be difficult.

I think they want to see him come out fighting and don’t think he can do it, by temperament naturally and now added to that by age.

I think he can.

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