'It's already disastrous': Biden campaign fundraising takes a major hit

[brooklynite]

NBC News

President Joe Biden’s campaign has already suffered a major slowdown in donations and officials are bracing for a seismic fundraising hit, with the fallout from a debate nearly two weeks ago taking a sizable toll on operations, according to four sources close to the re-election effort.

...snip...

Two of the sources said this month is on a path to be down by possibly half — “or much more,” one of them said — from large donors alone. Sources emphasized that the donations were down across the board.

“Donors are negative. They had a call with the president. The call seemed so contrived to people; I don’t think they buy it,” one of the people close to the campaign said, referring to a recent national fundraising call between Biden and donors. “They called on people who were the most loyal, die-hard … There were no tough questions for the president."

Initially after the debate, the campaign reported an uptick in donors. But that quickly fell off, the sources said.

I was on the donor call, and the President was energetic, but I'll agree, there were no questions to him or the campaign team about righting the ship. I had put in a Q&A request but didn't get picked.

[LeftInTX]

1. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

[lees1975]

104. Well, not really.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-campaign-june-fundraising-127-million/

[BComplex]

128. Thank you,lees1975!! I'm sick of all the twisted "news" crap going against Biden.

We really need to keep pushing back HARD to get the truth out. We are definitely up against a lying machine that has millions of dollars of disinformation behind it.

[lees1975]

138. Yeah, post-debate Biden raised twice as much in half the time as Trump.

I've only heard of one major donor who's openly said she's witholding support.

And we also must consider that a good chunk of Trump's donations go to pay his legal fees. So that's one step forward, three steps back.

[Firestorm49]

2. I just sent him $100. I'll take my chances.

[Greybnk48]

27. I sent some money yesterday too. Not as much as you did,

but a repeater. To Tammy Baldwin as well.

[greatauntoftriplets]

40. I sent him some $$ today, though not as much as you.

Every little bit helps.

[Cha]

52. Mahalo Kiddo!!💙🌊🇺🇸🕊️

[greatauntoftriplets]

55. Thanks, Cha.

Social Security check got deposited today. :

[Cha]

61. Yeah it feels good to

Contribute whatever we can.. so Biden hears from all kinds of people!

[greatauntoftriplets]

67. It definitely does.

Especially over the last two weeks.

[Cha]

72. Yeah this has been

The Twilight Zone!

[greatauntoftriplets]

77. If it's bad for us, I can't imagine what it's been like for President Biden.

The overreaction to it has been disheartening. It's a dog-eat-dog world out there.

[Cha]

93. Yes I have thought of that.

The sharks 🦈 don’t need much if they smell blood 🩸 in the water 💦.

[greatauntoftriplets]

94. Sharks need to go after drumpf since he's terrified of them.

[Lifeafter70]

109. Opened du saw this op

Went straight to Omaha Steve's link and donated 200

[greatauntoftriplets]

113. Good for you.

[Lifeafter70]

115. Yep

100 from me and a 100 from my hubby. Duer Lame54.

[ImNotGod]

3. " four sources close to the re-election effort." who also happen to work on putins troll farm. nt

[brooklynite]

6. You have evidence for that?

I'm a member of the National Finance Committee and don't find the statements questionable.

[FarPoint]

35. Well ..

It does not reflect the massive, ongoing support we have for Biden today and who will vote for Biden in November....

It's the vote that ultimately matters

[brooklynite]

41. The campaign needs close to a billion dollars for the campaign.

The "massive, ongoing support" reflects the base voters which are not enough to win.

As admirable as grassroots donors are, the campaign is also dependent on mega donors.

[FarPoint]

63. They are doing just fine...we will support Biden

he wins with votes.... yes I said votes....the GOTV efforts are full steam ahead....every vote counts...

[Grolph_]

86. And now you have identified the root cause of all our problems

The campaign needs close to a billion dollars

[FHRRK]

87. Fucking classic!

Yet some will not get it.

[Think. Again.]

68. Yes, "un-named" sources say that while the campaign itself says something very different...

Biden’s campaign announces a $264 million fundraising haul in 2nd quarter during post-debate anxiety

"WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden ‘s reelection campaign and the Democratic National Committee announced Tuesday that they’d raised $264 million in the year’s second quarter, an impressive haul that may help them calm fears within their own party about last week’s shaky debate performance.

The total includes $127 million collected during June alone, when the campaign says it took in more than $33 million on the day of the debate and in its aftermath. Biden also has $240 million in cash on hand, outpacing the $212 million it reported having last month."


Source: https://apnews.com/article/election-biden-fundraising-democrats-8492425af85796ad77844b77db6d0f30

[Music Man]

100. However, Trump outraised Biden in the second quarter:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4752399-trump-biden-campaign-fundraising/

Unfortunately, for anything we may do, Trump and Company are trying to win an election too. Whatever we're doing, it's not enough.

[sheshe2]

111. That maybe so...

However his grifting DIL now one of the heads of the RNC:

Lara Trump vows ‘every single penny’ of RNC funds will go to Trump
“The RNC is about to become ‘Republican In Name Only,’ funneling all that donated money to pay for Trump trials around the country instead of elections,” says Chris Hayes on Lara Trump promising to spend all of the RNC’s cash to fund her father-in-law’s re-election campaign.
Feb. 15, 2024

https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/lara-trump-vows-every-single-penny-of-rnc-funds-will-go-to-trump-204321861629

That $$$ is going to his legal fees.

[hardluck]

108. That article does not contradict the OP

Your article discusses collections for the 2d quarter ending June 30. The OP discusses collections for July. Both can be true, e.g., great collections for the 2d quarter and a substantial slide in July.

[Emile]

4. When was the last time you posted a positive post

Last edited Wed Jul 10, 2024, 06:59 PM - Edit history (1)

about the reelection of our Democratic President?

[brooklynite]

11. Did you bother to check?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219130524

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219129480

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219129477

[LeftInTX]

16. Your positive posts just don't get the clicks LOL!

"If it bleeds, it leads".

[shrike3]

19. Some have reputations.

[Prairie Gates]

71. Usually well-earned

[sheshe2]

117. ...

[jmbar2]

74. He posted three very long positive posts after SO many doomsday posts

All three of them today. Two very long posts at exactly the same time. That's amazing!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219130524

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219129480

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219129477

Sus...

[Emile]

75. Thanks

[jmbar2]

78. I'm just amazed at so many long posts in such a short period of time

sus...

[Jersey Devil]

5. So we should choose our nominee for President based on a poll of donors?

and, once more, unnamed "sources"?

Donors are important to be sure, but they follow the wave rather than generate it.

[brooklynite]

12. Did somebody say that?

How about: Donors are uncomfortable contributing more to a race they worry will be lost.

Based on the people I know, they'll shift their funds to the House and Senate races.

[Jersey Devil]

24. Well, all your posts seem to be suggesting that Biden should withdraw so what other conclusion can there be

Of course, then the new nominee, providing it is not Kamala, will have to raise their own money because, as I understand it, they can't use Joe's pile of money. So then donors will have to pony up again, from scratch, probably spending way more than they anticipated to begin with.

[brooklynite]

33. I don't think my posts suggest anything.

They point out that Biden, while he has the delegate votes to be the nominee, doesn't have the Party unified behind him. That's a problem he needs to address.

[Jersey Devil]

42. Breathlessly declaring a "disaster" is what started this whole mess to begin with

Joe had a bad debate. He didn't drool on himself or shit his pants onstage like some donors and Dem pols suggest he did. Seems to me that you are just helping amplify the noise.

[Think. Again.]

73. https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219131688

REPORT FINDS BIDEN DEBATE CRISIS IS A BOGUS MEDIA CREATION

A new multi-university research project found that the debate did nothing to change voter preferences and that Biden is actually doing a better job of holding on to his supporters after the debate than Trump.

A multi-university project called CHIP50, which includes Northeastern University, Harvard University, Rutgers University, and the University of Rochester, issued a new report concluding that the first presidential debate had no impact on voter preferences.

The report found:

The predominant pattern we see in the data is stability in voters’ preferences. Overall, 94% of those who chose Biden and 86% of those who chose Trump in our May survey still preferred the same candidate after the debate. There was a small rate of change from Biden to Trump or vice versa– less than 3% shifted in either direction. We observed more churn between those who favored either Biden or Trump and the “Other” category. About 4% of Biden’s and 6% of Trump’s supporters in the earlier wave shifted to “Other” post-debate. At the same time, 6% of “Other” shifted to Biden, and another 6% shifted to Trump.

The net effect of this churn was still quite small: out of a total sample of 1262 repeat respondents, there was a net shift toward support for Biden of 36 voters, and for Trump of 27 voters.
-snip-

[choie]

101. Doesn't have the "party" unified behind him.

Who is this Party you speak of? The donors and the political operatives?

[sheshe2]

116. Soooo...

That was the consensus after your big closed door meeting with the money men?

Defund Biden because he won't step down? I sure hope that wasn't the case because he is the only chance we have of winning. During your big meeting did you discuss a new candidate and how you could possibly get them up and running and on the ballot in 112 days. I ask this because all the people that have called for him to step down not once have they told us how this will work.

[edisdead]

121. I love this post so, so very much.

[sheshe2]

127. Thank you, ed.

[Bettie]

122. Right? it's one of those

Biden steps down...something happens...VICTORY! things.

No actual plan, just the desire to ensure that most Democrats who voted in the primary understand that their vote did not count. At. All.

Perhaps the money people are willing to sink a couple of billion into a late race Hail Mary, but I doubt it.

However, the people who are demanding it are wealthy enough that hey will be safe from the dictatorship that the rest of us will be living under.

[sheshe2]

130. They are taking their ball and going home!!!

However, the people who are demanding it are wealthy enough that hey will be safe from the dictatorship that the rest of us will be living under.

They think they will be…but who knows.

[Bettie]

131. They are so used to their money insulating them

from things that it would be a shock to them if they actually had to face what the rest of us face.

[bluescribbler]

37. Major donors, in fact.

Why not look at the grassroots? I have seen no evidence that the debate hurt the President with actual voters. What we need to do is to keep the faith with the people who already supported him and to convince the undecided or wavering that there is no alternative if they don't want to see the country destroyed.

[FarPoint]

57. Yeap....

Same old song ...strong opnion without teeth .....

[BlueCheeseAgain]

7. Sometimes you get a big boost in fundraising because something good happened.

President Biden got a boost right after he nailed the State of the Union, for example.

The boost after the debate felt like it was more born out of desperation and worry.

[Trueblue Texan]

105. NO. The boost after the debate was born of commitment to the candidate! nt

[LuvLoogie]

8. Maybe Joe should commit some felonies.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

112. In the next debate, he should refuse to answer the questions.

Like Trump (and a lot of other candidates do). Answer with something good that he’s done or something derogatory about Trump. Have these soundbites developed and at the ready.

[msongs]

9. thank gosh for anonymous people, NBC would wither away if it had to actually name sources nt

[brooklynite]

14. Nobody seemed to care when anonymous sources spill the beans on the Trump White House.

[shrike3]

25. We also have elite newspapers like the Times making journo 101 errors.

Why I keep my skepticism handy.

[shrike3]

10. Got Hillary in there. Good job.

[sheshe2]

118. Why yes, yes they did.

The doubts go beyond Biden’s cognitive abilities. His positive talk about polling in the ABC News interview, for example, sounded "actually quite Trumpian,” the donor said, and it has caused donors to question where he is getting his information from.

One donor said he feared the re-election effort is out of touch with reality and may be repeating the delusions of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign, leading Biden to make dangerously flawed assessments about his standing in the race.

-from the OP link

Holy shit. That article is a hit piece.

[shrike3]

123. When in doubt, slam Hillary.

[Blaukraut]

13. So...what's the solution?

What more should or could Biden do that's within the realm of the feasible to warm up cold donor feet? At this point, he is who he is and won't magically run around like a man half his age and sound like it, too. Would our chances be better at beating Trump if Biden did withdraw from the race?

There just don't seem to be any good options that would increase our odds of winning in November.

[LisaL]

15. If Biden to withdraw, the new candidate will have to collect his own funds.

When exactly is there time for that?

[Blaukraut]

21. Could Biden turn those funds over to the new nominee?

If it's Kamala, isn't she already part of the ticket and co-recipient of those funds? I honestly don't know how any of this is supposed to work. It's frustrating to watch and not being able to do anything other than donate and canvass. (which we do regularly in neighboring NH)

[shrike3]

26. Nope. Unless its Harris, all that money goes back to the donors.

Kamala isn't on everybody's fantasy ticket.

[LisaL]

46. And if they step over Biden and Kamala, they might as well give the Trump keys to the White House right now,

as far as I am concerned.

[shrike3]

48. Yep. But the PTB know so much better than us peons.

[LisaL]

50. They will get their tax cuts if Trump is elected.

I guess that's what they are really after.

[shrike3]

51. I guess the simplest answer is usually the correct one.

[Fiendish Thingy]

62. False.

The Biden campaign can give the money to the DNC, who can give it to whoever.

[shrike3]

88. Different than everything I've read, from reputable sources. It goes back to donors, who can then redonate

if they want.

[Fiendish Thingy]

89. Well, you made the initial assertion, so show your work

Links please.

[shrike3]

91. Here ya go. NBC okay?

Harris’ name is listed on FEC filings for both Biden’s statement of candidacy and his campaign account’s statement of organization, meaning she would likely be able to use the funds if she continues with the campaign. Campaign finance law also states that a campaign committee designated by a presidential candidate can be used by the party’s vice presidential candidate.

“Both candidates are on the account,” Gross said. “And I would think that she would be able to use the money if she is running for president. She would be the only one that could do that.”

The Campaign Legal Center’s campaign finance team also determined that Harris could access the money in the account if she succeeded Biden as the party’s presidential nominee.

But they noted via email that Harris would only be able to access those funds if she is at the top of the ticket. In other words, if she remained the vice presidential nominee and the party picked a different presidential nominee, that would be a different campaign.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/biden-campaign-money-kamala-harris-rcna159850

Also Forbes

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/07/09/what-happens-to-bidens-campaign-cash-if-he-drops-out/

[Fiendish Thingy]

92. From your link:

(Italics and bolding mine)

If Harris did not become the nominee under this scenario, the Campaign Legal Center’s campaign finance team noted that Biden’s campaign money could be converted into a political action committee. But a PAC can only make a small maximum donation of $3,300 per election to another candidate. The Biden campaign could (not must) also refund donors’ contributions, who couldin turn donate to a new candidate.

Rajan and Gross also noted that if Biden steps aside, the funds could be transferred to a charity or a super PAC, which would not be able to coordinate with the campaign. The funds could also be transferred to the national party.

[shrike3]

95. Um -- you know a superpac is not a candidate, right?

And the party is not a campaign?

Read the Forbes link. It's complicated. It's not a matter of clapping our hands to show we believe in fairies.

[Fiendish Thingy]

97. You claimed the Biden-Harris campaign *must* return donations to donors

If neither is on the ticket, and that statement was false, as shown in your link.

I said the campaign could transfer the money to the DNC, who could then give to any Dem candidate for any office, which is true.

[brooklynite]

99. its not that you have to return the money to donors if the campaign ends...

...its that, if you wanted those funds made available to a candidate who wasn't Kamala Harris, the best strategy would be to refund the donations and ask the donors to contribute the same amount to the new campaign committee.

[shrike3]

124. Okey-dokey. And here I thought you said Biden could just give the money to the next candidate.

Thanks for acknowledging it's much more complicated than that.

[brooklynite]

17. If he's going to continue as the nominee...

...he has to lock down the public support of the House and Senate members. Letting this drag out day after day is deadly.

People will observe that the a lot of the criticism was in private meetings. That's true, but ask yourself: how many public statements of support have their been in the past week?

[LisaL]

22. He actually doesn't need to do anything.

He has enough delegates for the nomination. Those delegates are going to vote for him.

[brooklynite]

28. Not the issue...

Carter came out of the 1980 Convention without strong support from the Kennedy faction. Hillary Clinton came out of the 2016 Convention without strong support from the Sanders faction. Biden doesn't face an ideological split, but if his Congressional Delegations aren't publicly for him , he's going to be a damaged nominee going into September.

[shrike3]

30. Here, I will agree.

[LeftInTX]

66. And would it have done any good to switch out Bernie for Hillary?

Kennedy for Carter?

Maybe Kennedy could have pulled it off. But Sanders would not have made the cut. We would have gotten Trump in 2016 regardless.

Is switching out presidential candidates gonna work or is this like a sitcom when they experience low ratings and bring in a new character or plot twist that causes the ratings to go even lower?
It feels like a cheap TV gimmick to me.
This isn't a TV plot. This isn't Hollywood.

[brooklynite]

69. I - again - am not saying Biden should be replaced.

I am saying Biden himself has to solve his unity problem NOW.

[choie]

103. So says the "Party line"

[Blaukraut]

45. What more can he do, though?

If what Clooney says is true, that Biden has slowed down considerably, that means he's not the only one who has noticed. Other donors and House and Senate members who call on him to withdraw are likely basing it on their own personal communications with the President.

If their concerns are only based on the debate, and the ensuing media frenzy and overall panic, then it's on them to snap out of it and start turning the focus on Trump.

[brooklynite]

47. He has to sit down with them directly.

No 10 minute phone calls. He has to go into a room, hear every criticism and worry, and convince them he's up to the task.

The campaign team is meeting tomorrow with the Senate Caucus. Once again, it would be more effective if Biden did it himself.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

49. Doesn't Joe have a press conference tomorrow?

Do you think it will be a big help if he does well?

[brooklynite]

53. Will it help? Yes. Will it be a BIG help? I don't know.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

54. Thank you n/t

[Blaukraut]

56. That's a reasonable ask. n/t

[shrike3]

96. I agree.

[sheshe2]

133. Yup.

Funny, George had no issues with Bidens presentations during his week long summit and the day he returns, has a bad debate, he screams he is SLOW and MUST STEP DOWN!!! 🤔

JHC!!!

[BootinUp]

18. DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS. Nt

[brooklynite]

20. Care to elaborate?

[BootinUp]

23. No.

[shrike3]

29. Sounds like Carville's making progress. Good for him. (sarcasm)

[DoBW]

44. I think we all can learn from BIden taking sh* t + plowing ahead ...

I want the whole package, Biden, Harris, the cabinet, the staffers, the west wing, the works.. they're all winners. we got a good VP to pick up any slack

[shrike3]

135. Don't underestimate guys like Biden.

He hasn't lasted fifty years by being a babe in the woods.

[ecstatic]

31. jfc... donate folks. Especially if you are demanding that the critics shut up.

Put your money where your mouth is. That's a huge metric that will determine Biden's fate.

[FarPoint]

32. Why even post this propaganda?

Why even watch this bloody propaganda in the first place?

Why even bring it here to DU?

I'm voting Biden . Never blinked

[brooklynite]

36. Its useful to know the facts and respond accordingly...

...whether the facts are "good news" or not.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

39. Exactly, thanks again n/t

[ananda]

58. Me too.

I think Biden is doing just fine.

The doomy naysayers, not so much.

[DoBW]

59. boom there it is

[Just_Vote_Dem]

34. Thanks for this and your other posts on the subject

I like being updated on what things you are familiar with on the inside at this time

[emulatorloo]

38. Thanks for the reminder to kick in another 50 bucks.

[phylny]

43. Oh hi.

I donate to him monthly. I’ll continue to do so.

[PunkinPi]

139. Me too on both points..

[krawhitham]

60. Umm they raised $127 Million in June with $38 million of that after the debate on the 27th

[brooklynite]

64. Yes there was a spurt after the debate; it has subsequently dropped off.

Tomorrow I have my third DNC donor call since the debate. That tells me something,.

[Think. Again.]

65. Un-named sources say that, the campaign itself says very different.....

Biden’s campaign announces a $264 million fundraising haul in 2nd quarter during post-debate anxiety

"WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden ‘s reelection campaign and the Democratic National Committee announced Tuesday that they’d raised $264 million in the year’s second quarter, an impressive haul that may help them calm fears within their own party about last week’s shaky debate performance.

The total includes $127 million collected during June alone, when the campaign says it took in more than $33 million on the day of the debate and in its aftermath. Biden also has $240 million in cash on hand, outpacing the $212 million it reported having last month."

Source: https://apnews.com/article/election-biden-fundraising-democrats-8492425af85796ad77844b77db6d0f30

[LisaL]

80. He's already collected plenty of money.

NT

[LeftInTX]

76. There's a similar post with a few names

‘Everything is frozen’: Donors hold back dollars amid fallout over Biden’s candidacy

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/10/politics/chicago-donors-fundraiser-convention/index.html

[Freethinker65]

79. As long as they send the money to Democrats running for Congress, it should be fine.

Those Congressional Democrats can run ads touting themselves, and add without Democratic leadership in the WH, Trump will have veto every good bill that crosses his desk.

[mainer]

81. I just came home tonight from an event filled with Dems

Every single person I spoke to wants Biden to step aside. They will all vote for him regardless, but they’re starting to get angry that Biden is not listening to concerns.

And they’re sending their money to down-ticket Dems instead.

[shrike3]

136. Well, the average folks, the ones who are not politically connected that I know, aren't talking about the debate at all.

They're hardly paying attention to this controversy. Nobody's talking about it. Pro or anti-Biden bias seems to be baked in. People have the same opinions they did before the debate. I'm starting to wonder if this is a crisis only for the political class.

[Buns_of_Fire]

82. It'll be a problem until it stops being profitable saying that there's a problem. nt

[Deminpenn]

83. Here's a question for you

Do you and your donor buddies have a plan to raise the hundreds of millions of dollars needed for a candidate other than Biden or Harris in order for that candidate to be competitive since a different candidate can't use any of their campaign funds?

Do you have a plan to replace any top campaign managers, staff and volunteers who might quit, possibly en masse?

Do you have alternative media but plan given how much time has already been reserved and ads already been made and are running?

If not, you are engaging in magical thinking.

I'd suggest rather than spending your time posting here at DU, you and your donor pals get together and give yourselves a reality check

Ftr, I would want you or any of your rich friends on my side in a bar fight.

[LisaL]

84. My feelings exactly.

They want some imaginary new candidate. How is that candidate going to win with so little time left, no money for campaigning? And if this candidate doesn't do well in polls, are they going to demand he (or she) resigned as well?

[FHRRK]

90. I think you meant "wouldn't" in the last sentance

[brooklynite]

98. You're aware that I don't support replacing Biden, right?

I've been clear on that point since the debate.

You're also aware that, as a prospective replacement, Kamala Harris would have access to the funds in the Biden-Harris campaign?

[Jersey Devil]

102. Maybe not

Someone posted that the Wall Street Journal reported that Harris could only use the money if Joe is nominated and then steps aside. I don't know if that is accurate but we better find out without blindingly leaping into anything.

[Deminpenn]

119. No, but good to know. That gives you a special responsibility

to inform your donor class friends of the potential consequences of pushing Biden out. And it's not just campaign funding, it's potentially alienating enough Dem voters to cost Dems not only the election but control of the Senate and re-gaining control of the House. Let them know you interact with Dem base voters and share that we are very, very angry about them and others in their circle trying to push Biden out.

I can only write for myself, but I voted "uncommitted" in my state Dem primary as a protest to the WH policy with respect to the ongoing war in Gaza, but am solidly behind Biden now that he has clinched the nomination. My rep has been supporting Biden, but if he would decide not to, I would still vote for him, but would be open to supporting a primary challenger next election cycle. I'm not kidding around and would bet I have plenty of company.

[brooklynite]

125. I've shared my opinion, as well as what I think Biden needs to do...

…with the campaign and my political contacts.

The ultimate responsibility for addressing the issue still lies with Biden.

[Deminpenn]

137. Good job, then

Thank you

[LostOne4Ever]

85. I just donated too

I can't make up for the shortfall but I will do what I can! I hope you all can do what you can as well, and maybe together we can match and maybe even surpass what was lost!


Go Joe! Show them you are a fighter and beat this ugly, hateful, fascist loving, overgrown candycorn asshole!

[NoMoreRepugs]

106. Amazing that a Rapist Felon Insurrectionist has total support from his party and followers but

the guy who has ACCOMPLISHED more than any President in recent memory has a bunch of whiny ass pricks among his party and supposed supporters. Very very sad.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

114. Sometimes I think we are being punished for our

Greediness in this country and for damaging the environment. A lot of the Magats will be hurt by his policies so they will get what they deserve. The rest of us - not so much.

[gay texan]

107. Yeah, right

Boy this getting old....

[ret5hd]

110. ooooh...somebody's seeing their tax breaks slip away.

[brooklynite]

129. In which case, why were they finding Biden in the first place?

I know many of these people; they’re not pro-Trump.

[edisdead]

120. Uh huh.....

Never miss a beat.

[Scrivener7]

126. Four sources close to the re-election effort?!! Horrors!!!

[BannonsLiver]

132. Gotta love that this was meant to be a grim and demoralizing humble brag post

That instead was just one long thread with people calling out the OP. I can feel the frustration from here.

[brooklynite]

141. This was means to be news.

Please enlighten everyone as to why I want to be "demoralizing".

nb: Just got off a Biden campaign call where another ask was made for support from major donors.

[brooklynite]

142. Warning! I'll be posting a summary of my large donors call today with the Biden campaign...

...wouldn't want to you read it and become demoralized.

[JohnSJ]

134. WTF would you expect. Big donors are on hold until the Democrats get their act

together, and people like carville going to big donors urging them not to donate until. “Biden drops out”. That little nasty twirp has no business playing these blackmail games.

What is happening is that small donors are contributing to Biden though.

As for me, I am done with DU until we move froward instead of being led by a hostile MSM, which isn't just anti-Biden, but anti-Harris by proxy.

In fact that is what Haley campaigned on, and what a few pushed by suggesting other people to replace Biden that weren’t the VP.

That is the other elephant in the room

[Baggies]

140. I am absolutely not surprised

You also said, “Donors are uncomfortable contributing more to a race they worry will be lost. Based on the people I know, they'll shift their funds to the House and Senate races.”

I can see that being the case 100%.

Thanks for these updates. I would much prefer knowing what’s going on as opposed to closing my eyes and being a cheerleader.