Where can one get reliable news now? I don't trust the USA MSM any more than I would the National Enquirer.

[raccoon]

[Meadowoak]

1. BBC or al jezerra

[betsuni]

2. Don't trust anything, do your own research. This has been true for many years.

Don't trust non-American sources just because they aren't American, silly.

[Kaleva]

6. I agree

An example is too watch or read many sources covering the same or similar event. See where the sources agree, where they conflict with others and then draw your own conclusions.

[no_hypocrisy]

3. In 1998, my uncle advised to avoid US media for accuracy

and to go online for foreign journalism, e.g., BBC, Figaro, Le Monde, etc.

[DoBW]

4. I"M with Meidas Touch Network

Pro democracy
check out DW news, France 24, BBC, etc... look around

[nankerphelge]

10. Me too

https://meidasnews.com/

[Casandia]

11. I LOVE Meidas Touch

[DoBW]

22. It's not Russian propaganda

[Kaleva]

5. You mean news that tells you what you want to hear?

Understanding the news and working to have a good knowledge of current events is like syntopical reading.

What you get out of it is determined by how much effort you put in to it. Understanding the news is not a passive event. It takes work.

[moniss]

8. Very wise

words.

[moniss]

7. The CBC, BBC

Le Monde, Al Arabiya, Jordan Times, Ahram Online, several of the German outlets, NHK from Japan, Irish Republican News, Haaretz and others are all sources about various views on various topics. As with all media you have to read between the lines and watch for what might be informational as opposed to slant to support an agenda. That can be especially true when looking at media from areas of longstanding conflict. The Middle Eastern sources I mentioned are also useful to get an idea about development of commerce and infrastructure projects and about the energy market implications. Le Monde and the German outlets give me a touch for EU matters. NHK gives me an Asia source. I have not to date found a good media source for Central/South America/Mexico or for most of the African continent. Seems like lots of military/government coercion/intimidation historically and so I haven't picked any to date.

For instance the Irish Republican News will carry stories about the investigations into the various cases during the Troubles that the Irish Times does not nor the British media. I already know the view of the IRN so I can weed through the slant to try to get to factual info about the current investigations etc. Similar approach for Al Arabiya. I get some West Bank stories etc. that I'm not seeing elsewhere. Again I already know where they are coming from and so I'm not there for the slant or influence but just for the factual matter such as an action took place at this town or that. Then I can sort of track it and check to see if I see anything additional in the Jordanian media or Israeli media. Once again I'm aware of the slant and filter it out because I am trying to stick to the nuts and bolts of events. I know all of the back and forth and it ends up obscuring what I'm about if I get lax.

Domestically it is very hard anymore unless there are some alternative weeklies etc. that maybe do some stories that the big media avoids. It used to be that the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Philadelphia Inquirer and Seattle Post Intelligencer could be OK but those days seem mostly gone. I hope this helps and as always it's best to try and weed out the parts that are slant/opinion. However on the subject of opinion there are sometimes clearly labeled opinion pieces on the editorial pages that can have some nuggets of info about facts/dates/people involved that can be useful to you in doing further research/thinking about an event or subject.

[Think. Again.]

9. optout.news ....

...is a media aggregator that offers a variety of independent news sources.

You can keep it simple and just have their main stories sent to you daily or you can design your own collection of the sources you've come to trust.

[canetoad]

12. Good worldwide coverage

From ABC Au. They're the national broadcaster, so on a par with BBC but with fewer scandals.

https://www.abc.net.au/news

[malaise]

14. Aus ABC is very good

[canetoad]

15. Hey you

I've just found out about a fascinating man from Jamaica who became a Brit ww2 hero pilot, an activist and a communist after the war.

I was looking up Prof. Richard Overy, an historian and saw that one of the prof's projects was a display memorializing Billy Strachan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Strachan

Postwar, Strachan became a communist and a human rights activist, campaigning for universal suffrage and worker's rights, and promoting anti-colonial and anti-imperialist politics. He was a leading member of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB), an admirer of both the Cuban Revolution and the Viet Minh, and a committed communist activist for the rest of his life.[1] His communist beliefs saw him become the victim of political persecution, once kidnapped by the United States for his communist politics, and being banned from legally travelling to multiple countries, including British Guiana, St Vincent, Grenada, Trinidad, and even his home country of Jamaica.

I'd like to find out more about him.

[malaise]

16. Thanks

Will follow up - never heard of him

[malaise]

13. The UK Guardian

Is the best on the planet

Here’s why

https://www.theguardian.com/about/history#

The Manchester Guardian was founded to promote the liberal interest in the aftermath of the 1819 Peterloo Massacre, and was first published on 5 May 1821. The Guardian achieved national and international recognition under the editorship of CP Scott, who held the post for 57 years from 1872.
In May 1921, CP Scott wrote a leading article to mark the centenary of the paper setting out the values of the Guardian: honesty, cleanness [integrity], courage, fairness, a sense of duty to the reader and a sense of duty to the community

203 years and counting - lots more at link

[TheRickles]

17. Agreed. It's not corporate owned, no ads, relies on donations. So they're free to investigate anything and everything.

Which they do.

[malaise]

23. Ding ding we have a winner

😀

[Dave Bowman]

26. I dumped Wapo and NYT years ago and the Guardian

is now my main news source. Sure won't go back to the other two.

[malaise]

33. Was never a fan of those two

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One of the problems I have with US media period is their xenophobic support for US interests overseas at the expense of democracy across the planet. Now. It is not a stretch for them to support the plutocrats and racist women haters at home at the expense of US democracy.

[hunter]

35. That was one of the papers my dad read when I was a kid and I'm still reading it.

It's one of the news resources I subscribe to.

[malaise]

37. Yep

Both my parents read it😀

[GoCubsGo]

18. PBS, especially for world news.

Their News Hour is generally decent, although they sometimes fall into the same spin as the corporate media. If I remember correctly, you're in South Carolina. ETV World (the ".3" channel with an antenna) carries BBC, DW (German), and NHK (Japan), all of which are really good if you want to know what's going on in the rest of the world. FAR better than any US news sources. They also cover US National news, to some extent.

Christiane Amanpour's news magazine-style show is also excellent.

[Botany]

19. Stephanie Miller's Chris Lavoie because he is always wrong about everything

https://www.threads.net/@radioguychris

[Hermit-The-Prog]

20. Check Vox, Mother Jones, The Guardian, BBC, CBC. Salon, The Atlantic, and of course Wonkette.

[sop]

21. Before media consolidation, there were many competing news sources offering differing viewpoints.

Even though coverage was often slanted, most news sources would at least report the facts. Now our corporate media monolith is creating its own reality and truth.

[GAJMac]

24. Check out

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

Not a news source, but a fairly accurate assessment of which way media sources lean in their reporting.

[CrispyQ]

27. I use this site a lot & I think it's a decent starting point. -nt

[ancianita]

25. The main thing is to know the difference between information and news. And the larger landscape so that

you can detect bias. Then you can read pretty much any reputable publisher and still be 'informed' instead of 'newsed." Along with other suggestions here I'd add The Guardian.

[Ocelot II]

28. Start with The Guardian. Read a variety of sources, both US and foreign.

Don't rely on only one source, and don't read only outlets you always agree with. Stay out of the silo. Always be aware of what's information and what's opinion.

[shrike3]

29. The media pack does seem to have lost its mind, but it's happened before.

I generally stick with the BBC and the wire services. Pro Publica is great. I want information, and it's getting tougher and tougher to find straight news that doesn't have an obvious angle or is somebody's opinion.

[Chakaconcarne]

30. DU is my gateway to news - I appreciate that all kinds of sources get posted here and makes my work easy.

I feel like I get a pretty broad view of what's happening.

[quickesst]

31. What?

I guess I didn't realize, you know, being old, that the likes of Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell, Joy Reid, and Ari Melber, to name a few, have suddenly become unreliable, and cannot be trusted anymore.🤔

[Stuckinthebush]

36. I just shake my head and laugh these days

I wonder if we are becoming a different side of the same coin with the right wing. Every day it seems that a DUer is putting another once trusted media personality on the cancel list. I guess we need our own newsmax now.

Being old and having been here for a long time I do know that this too shall pass. Election season is always the hardest around here.

[hunter]

38. They're not likely to bite the hands off of those who pay them.

Once upon a time I got a check from Larry Flynt and that somehow seemed more honest than anything I got from Comcast.

Now a few decades later, as someone with a mature ethical system, it's possible I'd rather be homeless than work for [link:Larry Flynt|Larry Flynt] or Comcast. Fortunately I don't have to work for either, nor do I have to buy their products.

I quit television news and opinion in the run-up to the Iraq war, Comcast after that, and all advertising supported television in 2012.

[myohmy2]

32. as...

...many have said, you need a variety of sources...

...figure out their angles, put them together and what falls through that sieve is close to the truth...

...maybe...

[Sympthsical]

34. Read widely, avoid cable news

It isn't that one source is a silver bullet that's totally correct and trustworthy all the time. Everyone's got an angle or a narrative.

It's that if we read widely enough from a variety of sources, read for context, and piece together a mosaic of information from them, we can apply our own logic and common sense to get a feel for what is probably true (assuming we are on guard with our own thoughts and not reading for the sole purpose of divining what we want to be true and creating our own desired narrative).

It's like polls. One poll can be wrong. But if you read twenty polls, you probably have an accurate enough rough idea of how things are going.