Democratic Socialists Rescind Endorsement of AOC

[comradebillyboy]

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) was unendorsed by the Democratic Socialists of America.

https://politicalwire.com/2024/07/11/democratic-socialists-rescind-endorsement-of-aoc/

And nothing of value was lost. Any Democratic politician who is involved with or is a member of DSA really ought to rethink their choices.

[yardwork]

1. Good for her!

[2naSalit]

14. That's what I say!

[yardwork]

2. Oh wait. It gets better.

This is from a tweet:



Jacob N. Kornbluh
@jacobkornbluh
👀The DSA rescinds endorsement of AOC because she hosted an online panel discussion with two leading Jewish experts on antisemitism.

“This sponsorship is a deep betrayal to all those who’ve risked their welfare to fight Israeli apartheid and genocide.”
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So, hosting an online panel discussion to discuss antisemitism is a betrayal? Of what, exactly?

And, who exactly has "risked their welfare" to participate in stupid public stunts?

[OneGrassRoot]

7. They should be 100% irrelevant at this point. Thx for more info. n/t

[Iggo]

13. So the DSA can't walk and chew gum.

One thing is not the other thing.

[yardwork]

16. I take this as evidence that to them, it's the same.

We're seeing plenty of evidence that this goes way beyond disagreeing with Israel.

[travelingthrulife]

28. Exactly. Much of this is being generated by the media and GOP

Just like the 'cities ablaze' reporting from 2022 justified the antifa bashing. It is why the GOP was initially so confident they could blame the 1/6 insurrection on antifa.
The GOP need an excuse to bash liberals before every election and this year it is the pro-Palestinian protestors, some of whom are likely planted by the GOP aligned groups to cause violence.
The authoritarians pushing Trump intend to declare Martial Law. They have said so repeatedly. This time they will use these protestors as their excuse.

[yardwork]

33. Strong disagreement. The DSA is not a front for right wingers.

The DSA is not a lie created by the media or GOP. They would be affronted at the suggestion.

Not all antisemites are right wingers. The DSA proves that in their statement excommunicating one of their own for interacting with Jewish people.

[travelingthrulife]

39. Did not say that DSA was created by media or GOP

n/t

[EllieBC]

38. Their commitment to antisemitism is as high

as your average Nazi group. They should contact their local aryan brotherhood chapter and ask about combining efforts.

[unblock]

3. Yikes! I did not realize how overtly committed they are to antisemitism!

Aoc gets the boot for talking to jews about antisemitism.

Wow.

[RainCaster]

4. BFD - how many voters do they represent?

A few hundred across how many counties?

[yardwork]

9. DSA suddenly got large and well-funded around 2014 or so.

The influx of funds coincided with Putin's campaign against Ukraine and then Trump's campaign.

Many members of DSA identify as communists, and they admire not just Putin and Russia (which is no longer communist, but, details...) but also North Korea.

I hadn't realized that antisemitism was so deeply embedded in DSA and other groups. They'll tell you they're just anti-Israel, but their words and actions - like this one - show otherwise.

Their influence is not negligible. They influence college campuses, as the faculty and administrators want to be perceived as "cool" by the kids.

There's a lot of ridiculous behavior on the left and the right in the U.S. now, and one thing they have in common is antisemitism. The other thing they have in common is knee jerk jingoism and a poor understanding of history.

[TwilightZone]

20. "Large" is a relative term. They've never been very big.

Even at their peak, they only had about 95k members. Many of those joined when AOC rose to prominence and have since left or become inactive.

Their influence and importance have always been exaggerated, both by the organization and by its adherents.

[yardwork]

26. Yes, large is relative. My point is that they increased in size very quickly.

It's hard to gauge their influence. The few DSAers I know voted for Hillary in the 2016 GE and Biden in the 2020 GE.

But the antisemitism is disgraceful.

[Ocelot II]

5. That's not a bad thing - nobody needs the endorsement of anti-Semites.

[JI7]

6. Good for her. This is something to be proud of.

[Think. Again.]

8. DSA is a different party than the Democratic party...

...and AOC is a Democratic party member.

Why is this newsworthy?

[yardwork]

10. A number of elected politicians who caucus with Democrats run as members of other parties.

Bernie Sanders comes to mind.

I think it's a weakness of the U.S. political system that we have a binary choice with winner takes all. It pushes American politics into this cult of personality, centered on individuals rather than party platforms.

[Think. Again.]

12. But AOC is not one of those.

[yardwork]

15. Yes, she's been a member of DSA since she was elected.

She's had their endorsement from the beginning.

[TwilightZone]

22. She's distanced herself from them, of late.

They've been upset with her ever since she said that they weren't responsible for her getting elected, a claim they've been making since her first win.

[yardwork]

24. Yes, and I recall they've been mad at her for other things.

Apparently she hasn't virtue-signaled to their liking. Instead, she's been a good representative for her district, apparently. She's worked with the Democrats on the hill and gotten things done.

[wnylib]

34. With our electoral college system, a 2 party system

is almost a necessity. With a plurality of parties, we might not get enough EC votes for any single candidate. A plurality of parties works better in parliamentarian governments than it could in our system.

I am all in favor of eliminating the EC. It is an anachronism. That would require a constitutional amendment, though and Rs would not support an amendment. The EC works well for them to put their own candidate in office over the will of the majority popular vote.

[yardwork]

35. Agreed. We're stuck with this antiquated system with its roots in slavery.

The EC is working the way it was always intended to work, unfortunately.

Even worse, I think, was the SCOTUS decision Citizens United. Allowing billionaires from all over the world to control our elections is the worst decision of all time. That too would take a constitutional amendment to overturn.

[wnylib]

36. Couldn't the Citizens United decision be overturned

in the SC without an amendment?

[yardwork]

37. Sure, if we ever get a reasonable majority again.

And by that time, it will have been precedent for a while.

[Ocelot II]

27. DSA isn't a political party so much as a political organization.

A person can be a member of DSA and run for office as a member of an established political party. AOC has always run as a Democrat though she's also been endorsed by smaller parties like the Working Families Party.

[ismnotwasm]

11. Good.

[tritsofme]

17. This might be the best thing to ever happen to her career! Congrats AOC! Welcome to the Establishment!

[betsuni]

18. I want to sing Happy Birthday, welcome to the Establishment! Very good news for her future.

[oasis]

19. I'd tell them, "Get lost Dizzy-A-Holes, who

needs you anyway?”.

[GreenWave]

21. So let me see and let me think.

because she hosted an online panel discussion with two leading Jewish experts on antisemitism???

IIRC, Karl Marx was Jewish (and a damned good chess player!). So if we cannot talk to Jews and get their perspectives, why do they call themselves socialists?

[yardwork]

25. Marx is dead. People like dead Jews. /nt

[Historic NY]

23. I step away from the LOONEY bin

time to make them go away

[Goonch]

29. https://www.dsausa.org/

https://www.dsausa.org/

[LetMyPeopleVote]

30. Does any one care about the DSA?

How many people will admit to being part of this organization? I saw that the membership was down to 72,000

[rollin74]

31. Good. She doesn't need the endorsement

of a bunch of fringe nutcases anyway

[The Magistrate]

32. The Lady Is Well Shut Of Them

[lees1975]

40. That's a win for AOC!