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surfered

(14,226 posts)
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 02:20 PM Jul 2024

Why would an average American vote for Trump?

During his Presidency, the Washington Post reports that Trump made 30,573 false or misleading statements. During the debate, he spewed a firehouse of untruths. He’s a liar.

He preposterously promised to build a wall that Mexico would pay for. Of course, that didn’t happen. His associates raised money to build the wall, but when caught stealing the money, Trump pardoned them. He’s ok with the theft of his supporters’ money.

He stole from his own charitable foundation, was found liable for sexual assault, and guilty of fraud. He faces additional federal trials for taking classified documents, obstructing a subpoena, and attempting to overturn the 2020 election. He’s also an un-indicted conspirator in several state cases. He’s corrupt.

He’s bragged about grabbing women by the p****, walking into the dressing rooms at his beauty contests, and being Jeffrey Epstein’s “wingman.” He’s a misogynist and a creep.

In 2016, Trump promised to replace ObamaCare with something cheaper and better, but he’s still never disclosed a plan. He always over-promises and never delivers. He’s a con man.

While President, his daughter received 17 patents from China. His son-in-law got a $1.2 billion bailout for his 666 5th Avenue office building and $2 billion from the Saudis to “invest.” He’s guilty of nepotism.

Lobbyists stayed at the Trump Hotel to curry favor. Trump, himself, stayed at Trump Properties, requiring his Secret Service detail to also stay there, paying exorbitant rates. He’s self-serving.

He’s proposed a tariff on imported goods, thinking foreigners will pay it. But it’s actually a sales tax that American consumers will pay. He doesn’t understand economics.

He proposed “raking the forests” to prevent fires, suggested using a nuclear weapon to dissipate hurricanes, and advocated drinking bleach for Covid. He’s an idiot.

He downplayed Covid, resulting in the unnecessary deaths of Americans for his selfish political purposes. He’s a narcissistic sociopath.

My God, the man was Commander-in-Chief for four years and still doesn’t understand the origin of NATO and thinks its members pay dues! He can’t learn anything.

Except for Nazis, racists, and Christian nationalists who worship a false prophet and ignore the teachings of Jesus, why would an average American vote for this buffoon? He’s unfit.

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Model35mech

(2,047 posts)
1. I'm in Wisconsin. And here they would do that to fuck over the federal gov't
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 02:22 PM
Jul 2024

and it's powers

julmur

(222 posts)
3. Milwaukee Irish
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 02:38 PM
Jul 2024

I live in Milwaukee, absolutely no one I know supports or is voting for trump, the younger ones wish we had a younger president, but plan on voting for president Biden regardless of his age.

 

Model35mech

(2,047 posts)
7. Yes. Milwauke Co, and Dane Co are pretty securely dem. BUT THEN
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 02:42 PM
Jul 2024

there is the other half (more or less) of the state's population

Those folks WANT Federal failure and have seriously been working for it since 2010.

Jersey Devil

(10,855 posts)
2. Because Trump normalizes an makes acceptable their own fears and prejudices
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 02:24 PM
Jul 2024

He is a role model.

CousinIT

(12,739 posts)
4. In my family, they hate the gov't, liberals, 'the gays', women, immigrants and people of color.
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 02:39 PM
Jul 2024

Half of them are living on Social Security & Medicare while voting for people who have vowed to take it away from them. Pretty dumb.

Of course, they say, "Well, both sides say they're gonna cut it." Of course, that is not true. And when the human garbage they voted for does take it or cut it, they'll blame the party that designed and put it into place to begin with (and who don't run on cutting, gutting or privatizing it): Democrats.

Pronouns make them angry as hell. Women having reproductive choice and control makes them angry as hell, and their religion is against it, so that means everybody else in the country has to live according to THEIR religious beliefs, which, in their view, should be imposed on the masses.

"Immigrants are taking Social Security, jobs, and VA benefits!" they scream. "Climate change is a Chinese hoax!" they scream. None of that is true either, and when food prices skyrocket because food is lying in fields unpicked due to lack of migrant labor or dead because of climate change (more frequent and more severe floods, droughts, wildfires, hurricanes), they'll scream about that too and blame the Democrats--the only party trying to do anything about climate change.

They are saturated to their idiot bones with hate, fear, and grievance. All the problems they see in America are, in their view, the fault of "slutty" women who expect to have reproductive healthcare and to be able to determine what to do with their bodies, immigrants, dark-skinned people of any kind, LGBTQ people, and pronouns, "woke" ness and DEI and anything that government does for the common good including their own damn Social Security and Medicare. Hitler did say about the Jewish people that "we have to blame someone for our troubles." And this is who they choose to blame—everyone but themselves.

The orange anus feeds their fear, hate, and grievance and vows to punish, destroy, and disempower those people and ideas they hate and fear, including the United States government and most of the people in it who are not white, male, and "Christian" (handmaids-tale type women who subscribe to the American Taliban-style patriarchy are allowed but none other--those may be burned as witches).

I think that sums it up.

Dave Bowman

(7,435 posts)
5. "advocated drinking bleach for Covid."
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 02:40 PM
Jul 2024

I wouldn't mind if the Lardo Loco drank a gallon of bleach right now.

orthoclad

(4,817 posts)
6. The fact is, they do
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 02:42 PM
Jul 2024

That's a reality to cope with. America has always had a strong fascist vein. "America First" started in the 1930s. Not to mention chattel slavery and "The South Shall Rise Again".

I call it the Covfeferacy.

The oligarch class has access to a hundred years of motivational research, plus all the CIA playbooks on how to destabilize a govt. TV and internet are powerful tools.

I think the trick is to attack the masters before the puppets.

nycbos

(6,729 posts)
8. Populism manifests itself...
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 03:05 PM
Jul 2024

… when people who have legitimate grievances aren’t having their needs address. They then become vulnerable to a demagogue who blames other people for their problems instead of the people who actually caused them. And as the old saying goes, “it’s easier to fool someone than to convince them they’ve been fooled.”

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