NBC News confirms: The Biden campaign is quietly assessing the viability of Vice President Kamala Harris' candidacy...

[demmiblue]

Breaking:

NBC News confirms: The Biden campaign is quietly assessing the viability of Vice President Kamala Harris' candidacy against Donald Trump in a new head-to-head poll. @MSNBC

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[50 Shades Of Blue]

1. I feel like I'm living in a nighmare.

[demmiblue]

5. Same.

[dchill]

7. Frankly, you are. WE are.

[IcyPeas]

95. Me too. The thought that that conman could become president again

makes me sick.

[Wuddles440]

101. I've been in one ever since...

that Orange Fecal Matter stole the election from Hillary.

[unblock]

2. Doesn't sound very quiet now does it.

[elleng]

3. as it we needed to see this today.

[Hope22]

4. Dear NBC......

Please STFU!!

[live love laugh]

22. Because ... fuck you NBC (which stands for: Not Being Candid)

[Kaleva]

6. We live in interesting times.

[Traurigkeit]

111. a curse from the past

[Turbineguy]

8. I think it was called "a Volcano of bullshit".

[Frasier Balzov]

9. Harris-Whitmer for the knockout.

And Joe gets to add the first woman president to his legacy.

[Blaukraut]

14. No 2028 hopeful is going to attach their name to this trainwreck

And it's also doing Kamala Harris a huge disservice to put her into this situation.

[PatSeg]

28. I agree

I don't see the bright side to any of this. We already have a ticket and it is a good ticket. Kamala in 2028 may be a viable presidential candidate, but I don't think she has prepared for this possibility right now.

Meanwhile, who are the people from the campaign talking to the media?

[angrychair]

36. I would counter

That she is the VP, she is always ready to become president

[Jk23]

43. She's probably going to be the first female president

Even if Biden doesn't step down and wins.

I mean realistically do any of us actually think he's going to complete the 4 years?

[PatSeg]

54. Yeah, a lot of people think he will complete 4 years

[PatSeg]

47. That is the whole idea of being the VP,

but few are all that ready especially if they have only a few months to prepare before an election. I don't think she or any of her staff saw this coming in the summer before the election.

[angrychair]

104. Don't disagree

Good analysis.

[PatSeg]

105. Thanks

Preparing for a presidential campaign takes a long time, a buttload of money, and a lot political expertise.

[Ninga]

107. Quite frankly if she is good enough to be VP and

take over the office, the she is qualified period.
Her experience being VP and sitting in on scores of high level meetings with diplomatic, joint chiefs, and cabinet secretaries is important.

[Frasier Balzov]

31. It must come from Joe as his own idea.

Nobody can take the nomination away from him.

Succession Now would need to be a purely Biden strategy.

Ridin' with Biden to the future of the party and the nation.

[liberalhistorian]

91. Im sorry, I love

Harris, but nationally she simply WILL NOT WIN! That really sucks and isn't fair, but it's the reality that must be faced. It's infuriating that, yet once AGAIN, our party has fallen right into an obvious RW trap!

[Frasier Balzov]

98. Does your answer change if she is the incumbent?

You can't envision all the Biden voters in her camp PLUS every Never Trumper?

I don't see how she can lose as the first woman president running for what amounts to an immediate ratifying election.

[Nevilledog]

10. This will be shown to be a lie/misleading

[PatSeg]

37. Maybe it is someone who knows someone

who has a cousin who has a friend who overheard something at a bar in DC.

If this actually came from someone(s) on the Biden campaign, they need to be fired, but I seriously doubt there is a legitimate source behind it.

[bullimiami]

60. Of course. Someone made it up.

[Takket]

11. Sure they are.

[bucolic_frolic]

12. Tangents to this idea have been floated almost 2 weeks

There was some mention that I read somewhere, likely Xitter, that she'd make a great AG so maybe we'd have a different ticket. This has been a line of inquiry led by a couple of think tank types in DC Dem circles, but don't worry about this report. Joe is old, it's a campaign, something might happen to him. We would be remiss if we didn't know, instantly, what sort of numbers VP Harris could put up against Trump. Now is the time to know, just in case. You don't under prepare. You know everything. It's your responsibility.

[Model35mech]

13. Faced with candidacy armageddon, they'd be derilict if they didn't

Going with Harris would be better than dumping her and the ~13% of the American population that is black.

[mac56]

19. Who mentioned dumping her?!

[emulatorloo]

77. While Clooney did mention Harris as a possibility, he's pushing several different Governors as Biden-replacements.

[choie]

81. Clooney can go fuck himself

[Think. Again.]

24. "Faced with candidacy armageddon"?

Biden won the primaries.

The vast majority of Dem voters (68%) want him to stay.

What armageddon are YOU imagining?

[DemocratInPa]

25. I am worried if he drops out..

Alot of Dems are going to be pissed and not vote..

[Think. Again.]

29. Maybe that's why he firmly said he's not dropping out.

[Kingofalldems]

55. Not a good try.

[Model35mech]

51. Armageddon he's being torched by unelected elites.

[Think. Again.]

56. 3% of elected Dems do not a torch make. (or something like that.)

[Model35mech]

57. I suspect that opinion depends on whose ass is on fire

[Think. Again.]

58. 3%

[Model35mech]

70. Just in WI over 500K votes for Biden in the primary

The elites are torching the will of the people who voted

And there is really no way around that.

Even if you voted and you now regret it.

You voted.

It counted.

You don't get to return your vote like junk bought on Amazon

[Think. Again.]

84. It seems obvious to me the media is making this all sound much, much, worse than it is.

[Model35mech]

87. Your reply is no longer of interest to me.

Please have a nice day.

[Think. Again.]

90. Oh, well, that was rude.

[Model35mech]

92. It's OK to be rude to people who want to burn democratic process

So please stop, and go on with having a nice day.

[Think. Again.]

93. I guess you missed all the posts I've made insisting that...

...the main reason Biden can't be replaced is the fact that this decision was already made by primary voters and no one should be able to take that away.

[Model35mech]

97. This is now not only uninteresting it is tedious

supposing 97% of Dems minus 3% is something to caste aside is really offensive and you really don't get that.

as you won't stop I'll adjust my feed

[Think. Again.]

103. I was clearly pointing out that only 3% of elected Dems are saying Biden should drop out.

I don't understand your posts, and I don't thnk it has anything to do with my understanding abilities.

[msongs]

15. where's the proof of this claim? dont see any confirmation here nt

[PatSeg]

41. I wouldn't hold your breath

[live love laugh]

16. MORE Republican media manipulation. What's tomorrow's "story" .... Jesus picks Trump?

[NotASurfer]

17. Reporting "people are saying" is not journalism n/t

[yorkster]

18. Well, think of it this way.....

If dear Joe decides to step down, we have a strong, intelligent woman running.
If he stays in, we've still got her. The 2 for 1 special. And she's a former prosecutor, a former CA Attorney General and a senator.

Yes, this is me trying to put a good face on things. But you have to try some optimism
to counter the sadness and worry.

Hang in there all of you.

[Think. Again.]

20. CONFIRMS WITH WHAT EVIDENCE???

[LisaL]

21. Lets say campaign is doing polling to see if anybody does better than Biden.

Including Harris. Seems like standard MO.

[TwilightZone]

26. Agreed.

I think people are making more of this than is really there (so far). There's nothing wrong with considering the alternatives. At least they're actually doing that - the people going public with calls for him to drop out haven't provided any alternatives at all, from what I've seen.

[LisaL]

30. And if Biden is doing better of everybody else, the campaign can present this

data to those "concerned."

[TwilightZone]

34. Yep.

[Think. Again.]

32. Those "people" being a major media outlet.

[PatSeg]

42. That's a good point

Then some "journalist" turns it into a misleading headline like the reports of a neurologist visiting the White House eight times in one year without investigating why.

[dweller]

23. Pardon me

While I step outside this window …





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[ImNotGod]

27. Though polls are meaningless to me the latest ABC poll shows a neck to neck race

and the rumor mills are running rampant so take everything with a grain of salt.

[Dpd174]

33. To be honest, they'd be crazy not to consider all options, no matter how unlikely they may be to use them.

It would be a neglect of their duty to America for a campaign to not look into, stress test, and plan for every contingency, including this.

Even if he's as healthy as a 20 year old Olympic athlete, POTUS could get struck by a falling tree branch tomorrow...things happens, as they say.

Frankly, EVERY administration should be in a constant state of "assessing the viability of VPOTUS" to take over at any point in time, and be ready to go, whether it be due to tragedy, health, scandal, or "other." JFK to LBJ showed us that the VP's only purpose is to take the reins, if necessary...we've just come to think of it as the spot where the next candidate builds their resume, more or less.

I don't think this is necessarily cause for concern, just a very badly timed leak that coincidentally happens in the midst of the current "crisis."

It's quite likely a mundane truth, being reported as political intrigue.

[DemocratInPa]

35. So now Biden's own campaign wants him to step down??

WTF...

[LisaL]

39. They are not.

Doing polls is what campaigns do.

[former9thward]

61. Not when there is an incumbent presumptive nominee.

No, that is not what campaigns do.

[LisaL]

68. They might need this information to present to those "concerned."

NT

[Kingofalldems]

66. Nope.

[Freethinker65]

38. BS. At most you will see them together campaigning as a team.

They support each other.

Biden should also campaign with his excellent qualified Cabinet members.

When you elect a President, you get the President AND a team. Assess the team and how they work and support America's best interests. Are they qualified? Are they competent? Are they vindictive? Are they racist? Are they corrupt? Are they serving just the President? Are they members/authors of a guide to fascism determined to take away rights and institute a loyalty to Trump over country test for all government workers?

Harris is already second in command should Biden have needed her to step in. This term is no different.

By the way, who is Trump's VP should Trump, after pardoning himself for past and future crimes, stroke out or decide he needs more executive time and/or golf vacations longer and more frequent than the 5 day weekends he took his last term?

[Alice B.]

48. This needs to be its own thread!

"Biden should also campaign with his excellent qualified Cabinet members.

When you elect a President, you get the President AND a team. Assess the team and how they work and support America's best interests. Are they qualified? Are they competent? Are they vindictive? Are they racist? Are they corrupt? Are they serving just the President? Are they members/authors of a guide to fascism determined to take away rights and institute a loyalty to Trump over country test for all government workers?"

[ucrdem]

40. Here's Joe to set the record straight:

[Blue Owl]

44. This is some "DC Whispers" shit

Fuck that shit.

JOE BIDEN CAN AND WILL BEAT DONALD tRUMP'S ASS!!!

[Renew Deal]

45. She's viable

[pfitz59]

46. I would voice an opinion

but the moderators would delete my post

[democrattotheend]

65. I don't believe Biden should be pushed out

But if he does decide to step aside I'd be very excited about Kamala. I'm surprised more people on here aren't saying that.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

82. No kidding. Why all the hate for Kamala?

Reminds me of the hate here for Hilary in 2016.

[Renew Deal]

89. I think people need to be conviced she can win.

If she looks electable, most people will be excited. There will always be a few that call her a "cop" and want to argue, but you can't make everyone happy.

[BComplex]

49. Man! The democrats are truly getting pushed to screw up this election, aren't they?

I love Kamala Harris, BUT Joe Biden is my president, and the person I voted for in the primary.

[msongs]

52. sadly enuff its elected democrats that are doing the pushing nt

[BComplex]

64. BECAUSE they are being pushed by "donors"; a small group of rich people who have them by the short hairs

and who, actually, each only have one vote to give when all is said and done, regardless of how many dollars they have to give. Sometimes too much money makes you crazy.

Democrats had better stop this nonsense. I hope Joe Biden is tough enough right now to stop this. I know Netanyahu likes trump much better, but this is going to mess things up once and for all.

[senseandsensibility]

50. I trust Kevin Griffin

He's one of the good ones.

[Fiendish Thingy]

53. This is the responsible thing to do, regardless of which path is taken. Nt

[Bettie]

59. So, our party is determined to lose the election by

getting rid of a sitting president.

And we all know they won't choose Kamala, it will be some white dude who will promise everything to the "donor class" and nothing for the rest of us, but it won't matter because an incumbent not running NEVER ends well for their party.

[Bookreadingliberal53]

67. Clooney is pushing for someone like pritzker or Warner

[Bettie]

73. Neither of them can win

and having the incumbent drop out of the race, historically hands the election to the other party.

[ecstatic]

62. how can it be quiet if NBC News has confirmation?

[msongs]

71. nbc is looking for attention to get itself mentioned more than other news outlets nt

[Bettie]

74. Probably more "anonymous sources" which

generally means "we made it up".

[Baitball Blogger]

63. Says an anonymous source.

[Joinfortmill]

69. Not!!!

[Lovie777]

72. LOL..................

I would think the administration is getting a kick out of this.

While the GQP are exploding.

[czarjak]

75. Carry On With Kamala

Anytime!

[dweller]

76. NYT is the source of this story

and says it’s from an anonymous source .

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/11/us/politics/biden-kamala-harris-poll-trump.html?campaign_id=190&emc=edit_ufn_20240711&instance_id=128497&nl=from-the-times®i_id=102088787&segment_id=171882&te=1&user_id=f74c702fbaccaf7b0daf5c931bbd8ee9


I guess NBC is just confirming they read the NYT too




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[mcar]

78. More "sources say" BS

[Stinky The Clown]

79. Lemme guess . . . . . anonymous source(s)

Fuck you NBC

[jalan48]

80. What a surprise.

[LeftInTX]

83. So the interview with Lester Holt will be Step down, Kamala, Kamala, Kamala

[LisaL]

86. NO.

NT

[LeftInTX]

88. You don't think Holt is not gonna ask this stuff?

[ColinC]

85. BREAKING NEWS: Biden is STILL the only Democrat running for president

Kinda a dumb, round about way of putting it but I guess nobody is perfect 🤷

[shrike3]

94. Whatever.

[liberalmuse]

96. They are weighing options.

VP Kamala Harris will make an amazing President, but we need her for 2028 & 2032. President Biden has more than earned his right to another 4 years and the people stabbing him in the back aren’t fit to shine his shoes.

[MontanaFarmer]

99. I've not commented on any of this until now.

Didn't want to get caught up in the emotion one way or another. But let me ask you this, community: if Harris is determined to be significantly more viable against Trump, should we not want Joe to embrace that change? If what he says is true, and beating Trump is all that matters (which I believe it to be and I believe him when he says it) he may get out and release his delegates, or instruct them to back VP Harris. I'll support Joe but I'll gladly and enthusiastically support Harris if she is the nominee too.

[LisaL]

100. That's a big IF.

I don't think she will be more viable in the general, especially after republicans, Trump and msm go after her like the are going after Biden.

[TexasDem69]

110. The only attack on Biden that has any impact in polls has been he's old

They can’t say that about Harris. If it’s just policy v. policy then Republicans lose.

[CaptainTruth]

102. Breaking: Patriotic voters who want to save America confirm:

Breaking:

Patriotic voters who want to save America confirm: Voters who want to stop the fascisitic destruction of their country by Trump & the @GOP are not-so-quietly assessing the viability of the mainstream media. "Do we have to carry these 'reporters' to term?"

[Jarqui]

106. How do we know this report is true? ...nt

[ColinC]

115. Because Frank's neighbor heard from Shauna who's daughter is friends with Barbara

Who’s sister-in-law interned on the Biden campaign and heard it from her cousin’s therapist’s electrician’s dog.

AKA “anonymous sources”

[Bayard]

108. Russian bullshit

[FloridaBlues]

109. Unless this comes directly in print from campaign manager I take this info

With a grain of salt.

[wryter2000]

113. Just what I was going to say

Frankly, I don't find it unreasonable they should "quietly" check just to cover bases. Doesn't have to mean Joe has changed his mind about running.

[C_U_L8R]

112. I'm sick and tired of being ratfucked

Screw these misinfo merchants. May all their bullshit blow back on them ten-fold.

[usonian]

114. I FOUND NBC'S SOURCE