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*****Press Conference Thread Two***** (Original Post) nolabear Jul 2024 OP
This is really, really good. nolabear Jul 2024 #1
Best line yet tinymontgomery Jul 2024 #2
Right? nolabear Jul 2024 #5
Had a good chuckle when he said that. Dave Bowman Jul 2024 #16
Indeed he is! Turbineguy Jul 2024 #3
' Trump is riding around in his golf cart House of Roberts Jul 2024 #4
That was great he has been saying more and more Tree Lady Jul 2024 #6
A Ukraine question! That's great. nolabear Jul 2024 #7
He's 'getting the job done'. that's the proof people! consider_this Jul 2024 #8
I repeat, the press looks petty with repeating the same questions Maeve Jul 2024 #9
Just remember what Tucker Carlson's dad said TexasBushwhacker Jul 2024 #93
Too true now But back in the day... Maeve Jul 2024 #142
Personally, I think the quality of TV news went in the shitter TexasBushwhacker Jul 2024 #171
Response to Veep Trump comment macwriter Jul 2024 #10
He ain't dropping out, Jack! superpatriotman Jul 2024 #11
He's getting the job done! And we voted for him! StarryNite Jul 2024 #12
How do you know you won't have more bad nights? Tree Lady Jul 2024 #13
his reply is my post just before yours - great answer, Joe! consider_this Jul 2024 #15
Some of my worst nights were in my 20s. NoveltySocks Jul 2024 #17
Tell me about it! Tree Lady Jul 2024 #22
Oh, I miss those worst nights n/t Lulu KC Jul 2024 #57
Dayum straight NoSheep Jul 2024 #167
good question - global fear of *rump - re Ukraine consider_this Jul 2024 #14
Yes! Ask about Europe! Maeve Jul 2024 #18
Wow--questions fearful about 45/34! nolabear Jul 2024 #19
At a press conference he doesn't have to rush his answers LiberalFighter Jul 2024 #20
Even if some of the questions are crap Marthe48 Jul 2024 #31
That's a great point. Re: stuttering... OneGrassRoot Jul 2024 #72
I'm afraid the conspiracy theory now will be Diraven Jul 2024 #21
Oh let's not worry about that. nolabear Jul 2024 #24
I like they have a list to call - instead of screaming yapping BS, "pick me, pick me!" consider_this Jul 2024 #28
Picking from raised hands can be just as staged looking. eom Festivito Jul 2024 #30
And what can you do about that? Nada. It's noise. 58Sunliner Jul 2024 #32
If the last several days angrychair Jul 2024 #108
And Fox News, right on cue Diraven Jul 2024 #148
I LOVE that he is just speaking in an even keel, conversational voice. Very effective/ thoughtful! consider_this Jul 2024 #23
It's one of his best features. nolabear Jul 2024 #25
Great great answer to the Polish reporter ucrdem Jul 2024 #26
Can you believe the difference between this sane, humane man nolabear Jul 2024 #27
Absolutely no comparison. StarryNite Jul 2024 #33
OH NO SANGER !1! dweller Jul 2024 #29
He is sane Dem4life1234 Jul 2024 #34
Sane................................ Lovie777 Jul 2024 #39
I am biased Johnny2X2X Jul 2024 #35
I agree but Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #56
would be difficult to phrase such a NJCher Jul 2024 #111
I hope you're right Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #127
Joe is doing great, sounding very qualified to do his job. Trump would not GoodRaisin Jul 2024 #36
Joe should challenge him to do a presser. nolabear Jul 2024 #40
Yes!!!!!! kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #42
Great idea but Trump wouldn't do it. He's only comfortable in settings where he GoodRaisin Jul 2024 #79
Absolutely excellent on China! Just excellent! Deek1935 Jul 2024 #37
I was like holy fuck this guy is THE guy when it comes to china edisdead Jul 2024 #105
ON POINT discussion of China and Russia! nolabear Jul 2024 #38
Trump would not be able to answer any of these questions. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #41
I wish I could give multiple rec's to your post! consider_this Jul 2024 #44
And I've been a bit of a doubter too so this is saying something! kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #83
Yes, and GoCubsGo Jul 2024 #69
Oh no! Intelligent talk won't convince Trumpistas. Explaining China's potential actions in context... Festivito Jul 2024 #43
I think Joe Biden has now told everyone to STFU. madaboutharry Jul 2024 #45
Yes, quite decisively. Mister Ed Jul 2024 #49
Autocorrect has had it in for me for years! madaboutharry Jul 2024 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author Wednesdays Jul 2024 #53
I think you may have not meant Bettie Jul 2024 #55
See post #58, madaboutharry Jul 2024 #66
We all posted about the same time! Bettie Jul 2024 #76
Yup.. agingdem Jul 2024 #61
yeah - I hope there is a climate question - cuz TSF is anti-planet health and Joe is our only hope! consider_this Jul 2024 #64
Joe is a master of foreign policy Johnny2X2X Jul 2024 #46
A man who can think and talk at the same time Maeve Jul 2024 #47
You know, I think this guy would make a good president. nolabear Jul 2024 #48
Damn right. a kennedy Jul 2024 #50
By golly, I think you're right! StarryNite Jul 2024 #65
COMPLEX ANSWERS TO COMPLEX QUESTIONS! GOOD! Deek1935 Jul 2024 #51
He's extremely comfortable discussing foreign policy Sympthsical Jul 2024 #52
Joe has such an incredible grasp on world economics and just the whole world situation Javaman Jul 2024 #54
You mean Batman? nolabear Jul 2024 #62
Michael Keaton is Batman. He said so. dchill Jul 2024 #109
No mention of Italy yet. Festivito Jul 2024 #68
He's looking like a moron tonight Johonny Jul 2024 #71
George is dead to me Lulu KC Jul 2024 #77
This is incredible. The Media is compromised DFab420 Jul 2024 #59
Reddit has been predictable but not surprising. Ursus Rex Jul 2024 #89
Joe is absolutely turning this question around and owning it... Self Esteem Jul 2024 #60
Joe said ' I'm not talking to putin right now' dweller Jul 2024 #63
Sadly, the headlines on Google News don't seem to agree that he's doing great democrattotheend Jul 2024 #67
Bumper dummy news. eom Festivito Jul 2024 #82
quel surprise. The meat of this is too complicated for them to write and post an instantaneous click grabbing headline. consider_this Jul 2024 #84
YOU just nailed it. Bravo! NoSheep Jul 2024 #165
We need to expect that Lulu KC Jul 2024 #87
The media is attempting a soft coup DFab420 Jul 2024 #90
Google has little to say that is good. Biden admin, justice dept has sued Google twice. 58Sunliner Jul 2024 #98
He didn't actually confuse him, that's misinformation. He just misspoke. Walleye Jul 2024 #166
"I'm not ready to talk to Putin..." Amaryllis Jul 2024 #70
They're back Dem4life1234 Jul 2024 #73
if people are PATIENT enough to listen to Joe... WarGamer Jul 2024 #74
Joe is smart, knows what he is talking about Tree Lady Jul 2024 #75
I don't know where that idea Joe isn't all that intelligent started. valleyrogue Jul 2024 #96
I totally agree and I think most people think Tree Lady Jul 2024 #110
Alright Joe throw in a malarkey and a pellucidly clear malaise Jul 2024 #78
Maybe call on one real jerk first, and put them in their place. nolabear Jul 2024 #88
And use the world malarkeys 😂😀😂 malaise Jul 2024 #100
So glad to see him talking Israel and Palestine. nolabear Jul 2024 #80
Masterful! Now he's getting some questions of substance Nixie Jul 2024 #81
He'd be talking to Hannibal Lechter about Bettie Jul 2024 #85
This guy knows foreign policy! My goodness! I couldn't keep all this in my head. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #86
He's way over my head! StarryNite Jul 2024 #92
He is really showing the complexity of dealing with things like Israel/Palestine Amaryllis Jul 2024 #95
Very sad day for the vultures. GreenWave Jul 2024 #91
Ain't it the truth. nolabear Jul 2024 #94
Main $tream Media: "Hold my beer." nt Wednesdays Jul 2024 #125
I'm not watching is the press conference over? DemocracyWorks Jul 2024 #97
No dweller Jul 2024 #101
On and interesting too. Festivito Jul 2024 #102
Still going. Joe's doing great. He's taking 2 more questions. emulatorloo Jul 2024 #103
on penultimate question Marthe48 Jul 2024 #106
You're missing out DFab420 Jul 2024 #107
Slamming Supreme Court, Project 2025 emulatorloo Jul 2024 #120
I admit I was more inclined to think Biden should probably step down after the debate, but.. Rstrstx Jul 2024 #99
Actions speak louder than speeches. Everyday. Everywhere. Festivito Jul 2024 #122
Experience in the Senate help me get things done Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2024 #104
He is making excellent points about why it would not be good to put someone else in at this point, Amaryllis Jul 2024 #112
Passion! Yes, passion re child deaths. nolabear Jul 2024 #113
Control guns, not girls! StarryNite Jul 2024 #114
Roll the window down -- I'm RIDIN' WITH BIDEN!!!!!!! Blue Owl Jul 2024 #115
I'm So Over the shills for the corporate owned McGreedia! love_katz Jul 2024 #116
Control Guns not Girls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bdamomma Jul 2024 #117
Go Joe! Marthe48 Jul 2024 #118
Wow! StarryNite Jul 2024 #119
Indeed he is. Gun Control, Project 2025, Supreme Court. emulatorloo Jul 2024 #121
ABC NBC CBS gave up and downs after speech. FOX had none. PBS did not cover the speech at all. Festivito Jul 2024 #159
yay - he said - "ask TSF for his" when asked re cognitive tests. consider_this Jul 2024 #123
Would you trust a report from Ronny Jackson aka Johnson? Raven123 Jul 2024 #144
Man woman person camera TV Diraven Jul 2024 #161
The press should insist Trump do one of these now padah513 Jul 2024 #124
yeah, but he'd lie and they'd praise it all - don'tcha think? consider_this Jul 2024 #128
Maybe, but he'd also get fact checked on the spot. Some of the press is lazy but not all of them padah513 Jul 2024 #140
If only Trump was ever held to any standard DFab420 Jul 2024 #133
I wish he would take a drink of water. tavernier Jul 2024 #126
Then they'd say... Richard D Jul 2024 #129
Yup... Mossfern Jul 2024 #132
He needs to work with a voice therapist like singers do. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #131
I mean he does have to run the country edisdead Jul 2024 #151
early in this presser one of the reporters mentioned 'some voters' want Biden to drop out Marthe48 Jul 2024 #130
the long-winded Biden we know and love. lol. nt ecstatic Jul 2024 #134
He gets it! StarryNite Jul 2024 #135
Biden crushed it Johnny2X2X Jul 2024 #136
He sure did! StarryNite Jul 2024 #143
These answers have been direct, clear, unwavering. nolabear Jul 2024 #137
I think RW media is in shock.................. Lovie777 Jul 2024 #146
The screaming meanies are back dweller Jul 2024 #138
I will be bdamomma Jul 2024 #139
Same!!! mahina Jul 2024 #153
Speaking softly is NOT a sign of weakness, mentally or otherwise. love_katz Jul 2024 #141
Listen to him unweird Jul 2024 #145
Dude crushed it DFab420 Jul 2024 #147
Somebody did get the question about the "Vice President Trump" gaffe. valleyrogue Jul 2024 #149
Internet out in NYC? gay texan Jul 2024 #150
Replay Donald Trump calling Nancy Pelosi Nikki Haley Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2024 #152
His final response was the cherry on top of the ice cream! StarryNite Jul 2024 #154
It was great. I laughed my ass off. n/t valleyrogue Jul 2024 #155
Me too! StarryNite Jul 2024 #156
Thank you nolabear. love_katz Jul 2024 #157
watched it on Brian Tyler Cohen's livestream and... ._. Jul 2024 #158
Joe Biden brain is going so fast it's hard for his mouth to keep up MacKasey Jul 2024 #160
That is very true bdamomma Jul 2024 #163
Oh yes, I've seen him do that for many years now PatSeg Jul 2024 #170
Now please let the polls reflect he can win. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #162
Turned off MSNBC, they have pissed me off completely now with their hesitation on Biden Bev54 Jul 2024 #164
Lawrence is the only one I can handle right now PatSeg Jul 2024 #168
yeah, this whole Biden episode NJCher Jul 2024 #173
Yea I'm unfortunately done with them too DFab420 Jul 2024 #169
Me too .. agingdem Jul 2024 #172

tinymontgomery

(2,861 posts)
2. Best line yet
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 07:48 PM
Jul 2024

"where is trump, sitting in his golf cart filling out his score card before he hits the ball".

Tree Lady

(13,384 posts)
6. That was great he has been saying more and more
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 07:49 PM
Jul 2024

lately if anyone will listen how Trump isn't doing anything worth listening to at all...

TexasBushwhacker

(21,289 posts)
93. Just remember what Tucker Carlson's dad said
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:12 PM
Jul 2024

when Tucker was turned down by the CIA. Dad said "Go into journalism. They'll take anybody."

Maeve

(43,489 posts)
142. Too true now But back in the day...
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:26 PM
Jul 2024

I was in J school in the 70's (so was Hubby, altho I switched majors and he got his degree) I know how we were taught and it wasn't this.
Don Henley, "Dirty Laundry" forsaw it

TexasBushwhacker

(21,289 posts)
171. Personally, I think the quality of TV news went in the shitter
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 09:13 PM
Jul 2024

when the 24 hour news cycle started. The news wasn't the most important anymore. It was all about getting the scoop and being a STAR.

macwriter

(257 posts)
10. Response to Veep Trump comment
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 07:51 PM
Jul 2024

Oh, I'm sorry. I just always assume Trump is Putin's running mate and is at the top of the ticket

Tree Lady

(13,384 posts)
13. How do you know you won't have more bad nights?
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 07:51 PM
Jul 2024

what a BS question!! No one knows the future. Everyone has a bad night no matter if they are 80 or 20...

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
19. Wow--questions fearful about 45/34!
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 07:52 PM
Jul 2024

Damn, this is great. I couldn’t have planted someone better.

Marthe48

(23,459 posts)
31. Even if some of the questions are crap
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 07:57 PM
Jul 2024

they have some connection to reality and aren't necessarily gish-galloping

OneGrassRoot

(23,954 posts)
72. That's a great point. Re: stuttering...
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:08 PM
Jul 2024

I have always stuttered, and while public speaking is stressful as fuck, I literally cannot imagine doing so with the kind of time restraint he had to deal with at the debate. Stress upon stress for someone who already struggles with smooth speech.

Diraven

(1,952 posts)
21. I'm afraid the conspiracy theory now will be
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 07:53 PM
Jul 2024

Because he's calling reporters in order from a list he must have been fed the questions in advance. NYT vultures would have no problem publishing a story claiming that with no evidence.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
24. Oh let's not worry about that.
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 07:54 PM
Jul 2024

Haters gonna hate. I’m happy this is the Joe the average voter is seeing.

angrychair

(12,540 posts)
108. If the last several days
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:17 PM
Jul 2024

Have not us nothing else it's that the press is NOT Biden's friend. No one but those deep in the orange mud would believe that.

Diraven

(1,952 posts)
148. And Fox News, right on cue
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:27 PM
Jul 2024

Literally called this a "cheat sheet" on their website front page.

consider_this

(2,847 posts)
23. I LOVE that he is just speaking in an even keel, conversational voice. Very effective/ thoughtful!
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 07:53 PM
Jul 2024

ucrdem

(15,720 posts)
26. Great great answer to the Polish reporter
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 07:54 PM
Jul 2024

Basically, yeah, Trump will be a catastrophe, that's why I'm in it to win it.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
27. Can you believe the difference between this sane, humane man
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 07:56 PM
Jul 2024

And that rambling, hate-filled know-nothing orange menace?

This is really good.

Doc Sportello

(7,964 posts)
56. I agree but
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:05 PM
Jul 2024

I'm afraid the media and the anti-Biden Dems will sieze on one or two little gaffes and ignore the many, many other solid points he is making. In 55 years of following politics I don't think I've ever seen a feeding frenzy like he is experiencing aided, unfortunately, by members of his own party.

NJCher

(43,536 posts)
111. would be difficult to phrase such a
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:17 PM
Jul 2024

criticism credibly after his foreign policy discussion. They would look petty if they did it

Not saying they won't; they have no shame, just like republicans. But any fair person listening to a criticism like that is not going to give it much credence.,

Doc Sportello

(7,964 posts)
127. I hope you're right
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:23 PM
Jul 2024

I just think this presser was built up so much by people like Schiff who thinks he has to hit it out of the park. Biden is who he is and that was good enough before and he is good enough now.

GoodRaisin

(11,063 posts)
36. Joe is doing great, sounding very qualified to do his job. Trump would not
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 07:59 PM
Jul 2024

do this, he is too stupid to answer the questions.

GoodRaisin

(11,063 posts)
79. Great idea but Trump wouldn't do it. He's only comfortable in settings where he
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:10 PM
Jul 2024

can bray lies and the media not challenge his lies.

Joe should challenge him anyway so everyone can see what a chicken Trump is.

edisdead

(3,396 posts)
105. I was like holy fuck this guy is THE guy when it comes to china
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:16 PM
Jul 2024

Damn he was explaining 4d chess

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
38. ON POINT discussion of China and Russia!
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 07:59 PM
Jul 2024

He’s schooling those who don’t know and reminding those that do.

kerry-is-my-prez

(10,333 posts)
41. Trump would not be able to answer any of these questions.
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:00 PM
Jul 2024

A lot of pretty complicated questions being asked and answered.

Festivito

(13,918 posts)
43. Oh no! Intelligent talk won't convince Trumpistas. Explaining China's potential actions in context...
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:01 PM
Jul 2024

of the world situation. With examples.. They fell asleep.

Hope they don't snore.

madaboutharry

(42,037 posts)
45. I think Joe Biden has now told everyone to STFU.
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:02 PM
Jul 2024

We are watching a man who is in total control and knows the way of the world.
He isn't quitting. No one is pushing him out.

He is going to win reelection and save the planet.

Response to madaboutharry (Reply #45)

agingdem

(8,958 posts)
61. Yup..
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:05 PM
Jul 2024

The cable big mouths, the back bench congress critters, and celebrity has-beens don’t get it.. this is a “we the people” election and we the people want Joe..

consider_this

(2,847 posts)
64. yeah - I hope there is a climate question - cuz TSF is anti-planet health and Joe is our only hope!
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:06 PM
Jul 2024

Sympthsical

(11,118 posts)
52. He's extremely comfortable discussing foreign policy
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:04 PM
Jul 2024

It's his strongest suit by all accounts.

Javaman

(65,981 posts)
54. Joe has such an incredible grasp on world economics and just the whole world situation
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:04 PM
Jul 2024

Fuck George Clooney, that piece of shit

Johonny

(26,630 posts)
71. He's looking like a moron tonight
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:08 PM
Jul 2024

As I said, don't be the last person to write a times op Ed caring for Joe to drop out. It won't happen and Joe's going to make you look like a moron. It didn't take long either.

Lulu KC

(8,901 posts)
77. George is dead to me
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:09 PM
Jul 2024

His smile used to lift my heart. Bye-bye, baby. You try doing Joe’s job for a week.

DFab420

(2,951 posts)
59. This is incredible. The Media is compromised
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:05 PM
Jul 2024

Both social and main stream media has been compromised and is attempting a soft coup to remove OUR President.

Just dabbled over in Reddit for a second and it was literally just people posting the same scripted talking points over and over

Ursus Rex

(499 posts)
89. Reddit has been predictable but not surprising.
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:12 PM
Jul 2024

The current version of Reddit does not have a high level of expertise in many areas anymore.

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
60. Joe is absolutely turning this question around and owning it...
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:05 PM
Jul 2024

It was clearly a question about whether he could handle Putin in the future, hinting of a decline, and he's turned it into an attack on Putin and what they're doing on their end. Perfect deflection lmao

democrattotheend

(12,011 posts)
67. Sadly, the headlines on Google News don't seem to agree that he's doing great
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:07 PM
Jul 2024

Half the headlines are about him confusing Zelensky and Putin, and I read somewhere that he also confused Harris and Trump? I feel like that shouldn't be the headline when he is otherwise demonstrating a mastery of foreign policy, but we knew any little slip up was going to be the story, sadly.

consider_this

(2,847 posts)
84. quel surprise. The meat of this is too complicated for them to write and post an instantaneous click grabbing headline.
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:11 PM
Jul 2024

DFab420

(2,951 posts)
90. The media is attempting a soft coup
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:12 PM
Jul 2024

Influence peddlers are trying to shape the leadership of this country

WarGamer

(18,863 posts)
74. if people are PATIENT enough to listen to Joe...
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:08 PM
Jul 2024

He's really outlining topics well and has a vast and deep understanding of issues.

His delivery might not be 100mph... but the brain power is 100%

Tree Lady

(13,384 posts)
75. Joe is smart, knows what he is talking about
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:08 PM
Jul 2024

but he is soft spoken, for some stupid ridiculous reason they think a strong loud voice spoken by a crazy man saying idiot things sounds more in charge to them.

We need to change what people think the definition of strong and powerful is. It is not a loud dominant voice. It can be a firm but soft expressed word spoken with truth and valor. Makes me think of Buddhist leaders.

valleyrogue

(2,795 posts)
96. I don't know where that idea Joe isn't all that intelligent started.
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:13 PM
Jul 2024

I saw him in person twice, back in 2007, and he knew everything about everything when it came to national and international policy. I was very impressed with how smart he was and is. That is the result of being smart to begin with, and then the experience on top of that, only 35 years in the Senate at that point. That is why Obama picked him as VP.

We are really lucky as a country we have somebody who is this qualified as president. He knows all the key players all over the world. He is the most qualified individual ever to be elected president.

Tree Lady

(13,384 posts)
110. I totally agree and I think most people think
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:17 PM
Jul 2024

he is smart just too old, but if you look at different cultures that actually respect their elders and look to them for wisdom I hope those people spread it to others.

malaise

(298,027 posts)
78. Alright Joe throw in a malarkey and a pellucidly clear
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:09 PM
Jul 2024

then tell them to ask Smelvis to hold a press conference and send them the fuck home. 😀

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
88. Maybe call on one real jerk first, and put them in their place.
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:11 PM
Jul 2024

And do it with the grace he’s showing now.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
80. So glad to see him talking Israel and Palestine.
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:10 PM
Jul 2024

It’s a mine field but he can do a lot of good here.

Nixie

(18,111 posts)
81. Masterful! Now he's getting some questions of substance
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:10 PM
Jul 2024

instead of the petty gossip crap coming up earlier.

Joe is outclassing the press.

He has his idiosyncrasies, like we all do! Trump could never speak about complex matters like this.

Rstrstx

(1,650 posts)
99. I admit I was more inclined to think Biden should probably step down after the debate, but..
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:14 PM
Jul 2024

..this looks like the Biden we’ve known. Holy cow the difference between now and the debate is night and day, at least so far.

Festivito

(13,918 posts)
122. Actions speak louder than speeches. Everyday. Everywhere.
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:21 PM
Jul 2024

If he's not good enough for a month from now, people would call for him to resign now, not for a run later. The ones calling out don't want that, it would make certain that our VP would be fine as president. Purely political call.

Amaryllis

(11,430 posts)
112. He is making excellent points about why it would not be good to put someone else in at this point,
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:18 PM
Jul 2024

but without actually saying that.

bdamomma

(69,629 posts)
117. Control Guns not Girls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:19 PM
Jul 2024

Love him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Would any of us want to be President????????? t's not fucking easy.

Festivito

(13,918 posts)
159. ABC NBC CBS gave up and downs after speech. FOX had none. PBS did not cover the speech at all.
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:32 PM
Jul 2024

consider_this

(2,847 posts)
123. yay - he said - "ask TSF for his" when asked re cognitive tests.
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:22 PM
Jul 2024

and said he'd do again if his docs advised he needed to.

Raven123

(7,903 posts)
144. Would you trust a report from Ronny Jackson aka Johnson?
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:27 PM
Jul 2024

Kind of kidding. I would like to see TFG’s record from his hospitalization for Covid.

padah513

(2,711 posts)
140. Maybe, but he'd also get fact checked on the spot. Some of the press is lazy but not all of them
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:26 PM
Jul 2024

tavernier

(14,512 posts)
126. I wish he would take a drink of water.
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:22 PM
Jul 2024

He sounds like he’s dry and water helps everything.

Marthe48

(23,459 posts)
130. early in this presser one of the reporters mentioned 'some voters' want Biden to drop out
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:24 PM
Jul 2024

it isn't the voters. It's the bought and paid for press corps and their corporate masters who don't want President Biden to run.

If they manage to dislodge Joe with their candy ass agism

I'll write his name in.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
137. These answers have been direct, clear, unwavering.
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:25 PM
Jul 2024

I don’t see how they can be misinterpreted.

Of course there’s already a trend about that VP flub. Bet it fails.

bdamomma

(69,629 posts)
139. I will be
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:26 PM
Jul 2024

passing over the analysis and wait for Lawrence O'Donnell.


Listen to him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

love_katz

(3,286 posts)
141. Speaking softly is NOT a sign of weakness, mentally or otherwise.
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:26 PM
Jul 2024

He actually uses his brain to speak, compared to Anus Mouth, who just spews lies and hatred.

valleyrogue

(2,795 posts)
149. Somebody did get the question about the "Vice President Trump" gaffe.
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:28 PM
Jul 2024

Biden's response was a thing of beauty.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(137,506 posts)
152. Replay Donald Trump calling Nancy Pelosi Nikki Haley
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:28 PM
Jul 2024

He didn't call her that once. He did so repeatedly.

love_katz

(3,286 posts)
157. Thank you nolabear.
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:30 PM
Jul 2024

This thread helped ease what would otherwise be unbearable. Nope. I didn't intend to make a pun on your screen name.

._.

(1,892 posts)
158. watched it on Brian Tyler Cohen's livestream and...
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:31 PM
Jul 2024

He had the nerve to run ads all the way through it, including ads during the end of the speech so I missed the entire end. Were those few bucks so important to him?

MacKasey

(1,534 posts)
160. Joe Biden brain is going so fast it's hard for his mouth to keep up
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:34 PM
Jul 2024

Riding with Biden

He was terrific!!

bdamomma

(69,629 posts)
163. That is very true
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:40 PM
Jul 2024

Brain going faster. My son has a stutter also, Their brains are faster than their oral output.

PatSeg

(53,567 posts)
170. Oh yes, I've seen him do that for many years now
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:52 PM
Jul 2024

He has a very active mind with an uncooperative mouth.

Bev54

(13,522 posts)
164. Turned off MSNBC, they have pissed me off completely now with their hesitation on Biden
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:41 PM
Jul 2024

It is quite clear that even Rachel and Nicole are spewing the corporate message and Biden can do no right with them. I understand Nicole because she is getting her info from her NYtimes hubby, but her quoting the polls is bullshit, she is only quoting NYtimes version. But I think I will pause of her for awhile now. I will only watch Lawrence who does not seem to go along with the pack.

PatSeg

(53,567 posts)
168. Lawrence is the only one I can handle right now
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:51 PM
Jul 2024

I turned on MSNBC just to watch the press conference tonight. After that, it will only be Lawrence for quite awhile.

NJCher

(43,536 posts)
173. yeah, this whole Biden episode
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 09:29 PM
Jul 2024

Has so turned me off most of the people I used to watch--Chris Hayes, Rachel, Alex once in a while-- that it has freed up my time to do other things. I'm only watching Lawrence.

Nicole a little bit; not as much as the others.

Haven't decided about Stephanie Ruhle yet. She's pretty independent but I don't know if she has been during this media brawl.

DFab420

(2,951 posts)
169. Yea I'm unfortunately done with them too
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 08:52 PM
Jul 2024

Really, incredibly disheartened to see Maddow become a mouthpiece for the corporate media but then again she’s richer now than she’s ever been and I can only assume the strings that come with that level of wealth get pulled eventually

agingdem

(8,958 posts)
172. Me too ..
Thu Jul 11, 2024, 09:20 PM
Jul 2024

The cable talking heads and their guests reside in a rarified insular world..when they aren’t “sourcing” each other, they’re rotating shows spewing the same gloom and doom hyperbolic dreck..and the delicious irony…they’re losing viewers.. millennials and Gen Z ignore the cable and legacy networks and tune into podcasts and other social media platforms..

BTW..someone should tell George Clooney, Jon Stewart, and Rob Reiner younger voters like my 20 and 30 year old grandchildren have no clue who they are.. HAHA!

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