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somaticexperiencing

(594 posts)
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 03:53 AM Jul 2024

Kamala

Curious what you think.

I would like to see more strategic appearances by Kamala in all these days.

I think it's safe to say that Joe Biden has been making lots of public appearances - to reassure voters that he's got what it takes. And if you view him with a half degree of objectivity, not the biased view the media seems to promote, I think you'd have to say he's done very well. I love that CNN clip where CNN is so surprised that two undecided voters decide to back Biden after his press conference.

This cartoon was posted earlier about the inequities in the situation of "news" reporting, which is mostly just scandal raking and lurid, biased propaganda.
https://www.instagram.com/thefashionsheriff/p/C9QNBIUvkVU/

But Kamala, I have not seen a similar amount or kind of appearances. And that could be because I'm not paying good enough attention. But I'd like it if the average person didn't even have to pay a good amount of attention to this.

I believe it would benefit everyone to know and to see that she is a kind of co-equal part of the administration, something like Biden himself was to Obama. Their friendship and closeness was palpable and responsible for a lot of Joe Biden's popularity today.

Am I wrong? Wouldn't it be great for everybody, including President Biden, to get more of a sense of this backup plan, of two for the price of one?

I know that I'd like it. I have every confidence in Kamala and she looks great to those of us who care on paper, but shouldn't it be made more increasingly self-evident? Not to position her as some competing person just outside the door, but as a trusted ally who COULD take over with great vigor and all of our confidence should the times dictate it.

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Kamala (Original Post) somaticexperiencing Jul 2024 OP
she's out there....supporting joe msongs Jul 2024 #1
She is out there, yes. MOMFUDSKI Jul 2024 #9
That is it exactly, she has been out there for 3 years and because she is not making gaffes Bev54 Jul 2024 #28
She's been seen more lately GaYellowDawg Jul 2024 #2
Is there a Vice-Presidential debate this time? Haggard Celine Jul 2024 #3
That orange man still hasn't chosen one Bettie Jul 2024 #11
I believe she HAS been out there... Think. Again. Jul 2024 #4
She is campaigning for Joe and her to be reelected. Emile Jul 2024 #5
Yes she is the backup plan. She needs to be out there. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #6
So you missed this? BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 #8
Excellent. She needs to be out there on the regular. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #12
She IS BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 #13
Yes the media is not covering her. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #16
So one cannot claim that "she needs to get out there" BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 #18
Yes I know Doug is very active and pulling his weight for sure. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #19
SHE IS OUT THERE BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 #7
I saw the one you post. The one that does more what I am talking about seems to me to be this one. somaticexperiencing Jul 2024 #22
I have posted a bunch during 2024 BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 #23
thank you. you think the average citizen who needs to know has seen these? somaticexperiencing Jul 2024 #24
UNLESS AND UNTIL liberals OWN the means of BROADCASTING then of course they wouldn't see it BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 #25
we all need to support Joe Biden just like Kamala Harris Layzeebeaver Jul 2024 #10
Did you miss what happened with the Democratic Leadership in the House after the 2022 election? BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 #14
Did I say something wrong? Layzeebeaver Jul 2024 #20
Here is what I am referring to BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 #21
She's been "out there" all over the place, yesterday in North Carolina Jersey Devil Jul 2024 #15
She has been all over the place and it has been in the news travelingthrulife Jul 2024 #17
Here we go again.................... Lovie777 Jul 2024 #26
Fine. I think that's fine. I love him. But people are scared. Why not reassure them in every way possible? somaticexperiencing Jul 2024 #27

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
28. That is it exactly, she has been out there for 3 years and because she is not making gaffes
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 07:25 PM
Jul 2024

or having a bad day, she gets no reporting at all.

GaYellowDawg

(5,101 posts)
2. She's been seen more lately
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 04:00 AM
Jul 2024

But the more she can get out there, the better. Especially in comparison to whatever milquetoast, lickspittle, craven ass-kisser that Trump picks.

Haggard Celine

(17,821 posts)
3. Is there a Vice-Presidential debate this time?
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 04:48 AM
Jul 2024

VP Harris is very sharp and would be great against just about any Republican. I really hope they have a VP debate!

Bettie

(19,704 posts)
11. That orange man still hasn't chosen one
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 07:34 AM
Jul 2024

I'm kind of expecting a "Running Man" type game show to amuse him or something at this point. (Joking...mostly).

Who effing knows what they will do.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
4. I believe she HAS been out there...
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 05:01 AM
Jul 2024

...but she's not being seen only because she is not being SHOWN by the media.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
6. Yes she is the backup plan. She needs to be out there.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 06:03 AM
Jul 2024

For all the Dems demanding a replacement, they need to see there is a replacement if need be.
Kamala.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
12. Excellent. She needs to be out there on the regular.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 07:38 AM
Jul 2024

She needs to be seen like this much more.

BumRushDaShow

(169,754 posts)
13. She IS
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 08:46 AM
Jul 2024

and people have posted about her "reproductive rights" tour. This was from last month -



She was JUST in North Carolina YESTERDAY stumping.

The "local" media covered it but the co-opted AI yellow journalism media refused -

Vice President Kamala Harris speaks of 'existential' stakes for election at Greensboro campaign stop



But because she is a n***er and Joe is a n***er-lover, it won't be covered.

I am so sick and tired of the shit.

BumRushDaShow

(169,754 posts)
18. So one cannot claim that "she needs to get out there"
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 09:23 AM
Jul 2024

when she already IS.

And her husband Doug Emhoff is ALSO out there on the campaign trail and unfortunately caught COVID along the way - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143267839

And from the above OP is this -

Harris was in New Orleans on Saturday for a moderated conversation at the Essence Festival, an annual Black music and cultural festival. The vice president is on a tour through the US on what the Biden administration has dubbed the “Summer of Engagement.” She’s participated in more than 60 trips across 20 states since the start of 2024, her office said earlier this month.


But it's never "enough". Just like Biden doing 20 appearances this past week was "not enough".

Biden is actually being treated like how black folk are treated every goddam day. LITERALLY.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
19. Yes I know Doug is very active and pulling his weight for sure.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 10:25 AM
Jul 2024

The media bashes Joe and doesn't cover Kamala and Doug.

Sounds like the powers that be have made some decisions.

BumRushDaShow

(169,754 posts)
7. SHE IS OUT THERE
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 06:16 AM
Jul 2024

But when some of us post about her appearances, COMPLETE WITH VIDEO, it gets a yawn from DU.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143269821

Here - watch this (she gave a keynote address on Wednesday, to a conference attended by 20,000 black college-educated women from around the nation, who support the Democratic party)-



I am going to say this right now. The media doesn't give a SHIT about a Black/Asian woman. They don't. But they want to USE her in a racist attempt to drive a wedge in the Democratic coalition and some people are falling for that okie-doke bullshit. The SAME applies to the invocation of both Barack and Michelle Obama's name continuously as if they have some kind of godly power.
22. I saw the one you post. The one that does more what I am talking about seems to me to be this one.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 04:40 PM
Jul 2024
&t=57s

Bravo!

BumRushDaShow

(169,754 posts)
23. I have posted a bunch during 2024
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 05:22 PM
Jul 2024

including one where she dropped an f-bomb.

But there is a narrative out there that she is basically sitting on her ass doing nothing and not campaigning where the reality is, she has been traveling around the world to summits representing the United States, for example at the Munich Security Conference this past February -



AND she has been campaigning.

I posted the below upthread as reply to another poster -

(below excerpt from here - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143267839)

Harris was in New Orleans on Saturday for a moderated conversation at the Essence Festival, an annual Black music and cultural festival. The vice president is on a tour through the US on what the Biden administration has dubbed the “Summer of Engagement.” She’s participated in more than 60 trips across 20 states since the start of 2024, her office said earlier this month.


REPEAT

"60 appearances in 20 states" this year alone.

Yet parts of your OP assert this -

I would like to see more strategic appearances by Kamala in all these days.

(snip)

But Kamala, I have not seen a similar amount or kind of appearances. And that could be because I'm not paying good enough attention. But I'd like it if the average person didn't even have to pay a good amount of attention to this.




WE (Democrats) don't control the media but EVERY APPEARANCE is captured at the Whitehouse.gov site and their YouTube channel if you want to "see" it because the U.S. media damn sure is going to censor it.

https://www.youtube.com/user/whitehouse

BumRushDaShow

(169,754 posts)
25. UNLESS AND UNTIL liberals OWN the means of BROADCASTING then of course they wouldn't see it
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 05:51 PM
Jul 2024

BUT... ALL of her appearances have been covered by the local news outlets where she appears so at least those who live in those cities will have access to coverage of her visits (many in swing states).

From what I heard earlier this spring, George Soros (yes that guy) has supposedly purchased (or is in the process of doing so), the "Audacy" network of stations -

George Soros Fund Buys $400 Million Stake In 227 US Radio Stations Going Into 2024 Election

Benzinga
George Soros Fund Buys $400 Million Stake In 227 US Radio Stations Going Into 2024 Election


Caleb Naysmith
Mon, Apr 1, 2024

Billionaire hedge fund manager George Soros has been the target of controversy recently after a recent move to become a controlling shareholder in the second-largest owner of radio stations in the U.S.

This isn't the first media brand Soros has bought a substantial stake in, but it worries some people going into the 2024 election. Last year, Soros bought a substantial stake in Vice Media Group. Vice was once worth nearly $6 billion, but Soros bought a stake in the company for pennies on the dollar following its surprise bankruptcy in 2023. The deal valued Vice at roughly $350 million with Soros owning an undisclosed stake in the company.

Audacy, the No. 2 U.S. radio broadcaster behind iHeartMedia, recently filed for bankruptcy. The company owns 227 major radio stations in 27 states and 45 cities across the U.S. These include some of the biggest channels in New York; Memphis and Chattanooga, Tennessee; Denver; Washington D.C., Miami and Orlando, Florida; Atlanta; Baltimore, Maryland; Wichita, Kansas; Austin, Dallas and Houston, Texas; Richmond, Virginia; and many major cities across California as well as several other prominent markets across the U.S.

(snip)

Some have voiced concerns about this purchase going into the 2024 election. Soros is a well-known political advocate for left-leaning politicians and is often one of the largest donors to such politicians in countries around the world. Soros donated over $140 million to political causes in 2021 and $170 million to the 2022 mid-term elections.

(snip)

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/george-soros-fund-buys-400-165211641.html


I have an Audacy (CBS-affiliate) all-news station that I listen to here in Philadelphia and haven't heard any significant changes yet (although they did do a switch of who they get weather from - back to Accuweather versus using theeir corresponding TV station's meteorologists).

Layzeebeaver

(2,286 posts)
10. we all need to support Joe Biden just like Kamala Harris
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 07:31 AM
Jul 2024

But at the same time, as a Democratic Party, we should be identifying new, young and progressive talent to build a base of strong leaders for the future.

We need to be thinking 2 generations into the future, not just the next election cycle.

BumRushDaShow

(169,754 posts)
14. Did you miss what happened with the Democratic Leadership in the House after the 2022 election?
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 08:48 AM
Jul 2024


We need to stop repeating negative and misinformed "talking points" that are not reflective of reality.

Layzeebeaver

(2,286 posts)
20. Did I say something wrong?
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 11:07 AM
Jul 2024

What specifically is there about my statement that is misinformed? What’s wrong about continuing to focus multiple election cycles and generations ahead?

And please do remind me of the specific outcome from 2022 that you are referring to?

I’m always happy to learn and understand.

BumRushDaShow

(169,754 posts)
21. Here is what I am referring to
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 12:18 PM
Jul 2024
we should be identifying new, young and progressive talent to build a base of strong leaders for the future.


Here is what happened before and after the 2022 election (note the below highlighted group, all of whom are currently OLDER THAN Joe Biden) -

Post-2018 Democratic leadership (when Democrats regained the House after 8 years)

Speaker - Nancy Pelosi (now age 84)
Majority Leader - Steny Hoyer (now age 85)
Majority Whip - Jim Clyburn (will be age 84 in 2 weeks)

Democratic Assistant Leader - Ben Ray Luján (now age 52)
Democratic Caucus Chair - Hakeem Jeffries (will be 54 next month)
Democratic Caucus Vice Chair - Katherine Clark (will be age 61 next week)
DCCC Chair - Cheryl Lea Bustos (will be age 63 this October)
DPCC Chair - David Cicilline (will be age 63 next week but resigned from Congress last year)
DPCC Co-Chairs - Ted Lieu (now age 55), Debbie Dingell (will be 71 in November), Matt Cartwright (now age 63)
Junior Caucus Representative - Jamie Raskin (will be age 62 this year)
Freshman Class Representatives - Katie Hill (will be age 47 in August), Joe Neguse (now age 40)

Post-2022 Democratic leadership

Minority Leader - Hakeem Jeffries (will be 54 next month)
Assistant Leader - James Clyburn (will be age 84 in 2 weeks)
Minority Whip - Katherine Clark (will be age 61 next week)
Democratic Caucus Chair - Pete Aguilar (now age 45)
Democratic Caucus Vice Chair - Ted Lieu (now age 55)

There was quite a bit of a fuss during those 4 years between 2018 and 2022 reflective of what you are talking about and what I am saying is that CHANGE has been happening. The party has a number of young whipper snapper brilliant minds who have come in and are learning the ropes so they can move into those leadership positions (and that includes building seniority in the Committees to eventually become "Chair" if Democrats control the House or "Ranking Members", when we don't).

The Millennials and GenZs (those who are eligible to run - the oldest GenZs are 27) are being nurtured in state legislatures (see Justin Jones and Justin Pearson in TN) and some of those younger generations like Summer Lee (age 36) and even GA Senator Jon Ossoff (age 37), not to forget Alexandria Ocasio-Corte who is 34, have broken through into federal office.

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
15. She's been "out there" all over the place, yesterday in North Carolina
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 08:50 AM
Jul 2024

a day or so earlier Nevada, with very strong speaches.

travelingthrulife

(5,179 posts)
17. She has been all over the place and it has been in the news
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 09:00 AM
Jul 2024

She is vice-President though. He has the primary role. This country is chock full of misogynists and if she were in the news more they would be dissing her even more.
I think she and Joe have a nice relationship in public.

27. Fine. I think that's fine. I love him. But people are scared. Why not reassure them in every way possible?
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 06:12 PM
Jul 2024
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