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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"My Mom's Support For Trump Divided Our Family. Then I Found The Crack In Her MAGA Armor."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/my-mom-s-support-for-trump-divided-our-family-then-i-found-the-crack-in-her-maga-armor/ar-BB1pNPLd?ocid=nl_article_linkStory by Tim Durnin
XanaDUer2
(15,772 posts)The fuck? Maybe I misunderstood that
Wounded Bear
(64,324 posts)Denial ain't just a river in Egypt, folks.
XanaDUer2
(15,772 posts)What was the chink in her trump armour?
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Hekate
(100,133 posts)Aristus
(72,187 posts)And remaining upright without a functioning brain is a real testament to human perseverance.
Under The Radar
(3,431 posts),,,immediately following the January 6th insurrection. But there seems to be a split among them now where apparently a very large and organized back room deal has been struck where many have fallen back in line, pledging loyalty and then a minority of the hardliners are still defiant but now are silent. even our moderate media streams appear to be kissing the ring. This has nothing to do with the debate, this started months ago. It is confusing, and very scary.
markodochartaigh
(5,545 posts)Republicans were going to have a brokered convention to choose another candidate. But the "traditional", corporate Republicans realized that they could not win without Trump because he was so popular among the 80% of their base who are authoritarians. So they put party before country and chose an authoritarian Strong Leader who was not committed to democracy. After the attempted coup Trump's authoritarian base seemed to waver. It was like a gang who had been caught beating up homeless people. They waited to see what was going to happen. But gradually, in a few months, Trump's authoritarian support went back to about 80% of Republicans when they saw that Trump, the ringleader, was not going to face immediate accountability. Now Trump and his cronies have consolidated their power in the Republican party. And most media know that if the Republicans gain power the media will have a target on their foreheads. A big media corporation cannot reward their shareholders if all they can report on is city manager races.
slightlv
(7,790 posts)Accountability hurt us in a lot of ways... and the longer he remains unaccountable, the worse it will be for us, IMO. The farther from the event, the less people remember of it... or have a chance to play mind games with themselves that they didn't see what they really saw. Garland really let us down, and so did Congress. This country just isn't set up to realistically handle a crook like trump, imo. The courts give way too deference for the rich and connected... the richer the more deference. They're also way more concerned with threats than they are with saving the country. Maybe that's realistic, but if u can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Public servants serve the public, and we aint been served!
markodochartaigh
(5,545 posts)Two points. We have different groups in society, one group is the military, mostly drawn from the working class. This group is often asked to literally put their lives on the line, even though the working class doesn't get much out of our society. We have an elite class, of course many of them are either disinterested in the problems of those beneath them, or are outright authoritarians. But there are many elites on the left or in the middle. How can we not ask these people who have gotten so much from our society, often for generations, to stand up against authoritarianism? Also we have a governing/ judicial class, also frequently well-heeled, whose job it should be to prevent insurrectionist activity. How can they not feel obligated to stand up against authoritarianism? Certainly both of these elite groups will be better protected than Joe Soldier. What happens when those who have gotten the most out of a society won't stand up for the continuation of an orderly and civil society? Will this class just take what they have sucked out of us and flee to another country, that is what most of the Russian royalty did.
And point two: immediately after the coup attempt it looked as if many corporations were not going to give money to those politicians who helped with the coup. But after a few months they realized which way the wind was blowing and resumed supporting both sides (pro-democracy and pro-autocracy). Since corporations are people, and some of the wealthiest and least legally accountable people, and the main way that we can influence these über-people is with our dollars I think that we missed a huge opportunity there. The maga people understand this, look at their actions against Target because of Pride, or against the beer company.
Skittles
(171,710 posts)then unfortunately, Biden gave them exactly the excuse they needed
JI7
(93,616 posts)So him going after Republicans was nothing new. So this doesn't make sense to me.
Timeflyer
(3,756 posts)Dan
(5,179 posts)The only way I would have heard about Moms apology would have been antidotal from family members that would have attended her dinner.
Given that the person narrating this event was involved in a multi-racial family environment with kids, there would have been no way that grand-mother would have been in their lives.
Forgiving and forgetting - not really strong in my vocabulary - especially since in some ways, we continue to live with the choices people made in 2016. The damage is on-going.
Warpy
(114,615 posts)and even more to apologize to the people we've antagonized over it.
Plus, a lot of families are so split that they no longer "do" the holidays, even if Mom is the only one who knows how to cook a turkey.
America is going to need a hell of a lot of healing.
It's starting slowly because I'm happy to report Limbaugh is still dead.
Crowman2009
(3,524 posts)Don't know why anyone who was a grown adult during that time decided to be an ignoramus with regards to that corrupt asshole.
The only reason the orange bastard managed to stay out of prison was due to having friends in high places.
PeaceWave
(3,383 posts)Yeesh. So much for empathy in your family. My Mom voted for Trump back in 2016. All it took for her to realize she'd made a mistake was seeing children at the border in cages and separated from their parents. Mom saw that and audibly said "That bastard" and that was that for Trump.
kerry-is-my-prez
(10,283 posts)than the Dems. That makes sense.
Skittles
(171,710 posts)they make me SICK
PeaceWave
(3,383 posts)How else can we grow as people and as a society unless we encourage them when they turn themselves around?
Skittles
(171,710 posts)all it took was disgracing themselves and their country
we'll be paying for that fucked up nonsense for A LONG TIME