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jmbar2

(7,990 posts)
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 04:35 PM Jul 2024

Clarence Thomas, Russia, Harlan Crow's brother's sex ring... Whoo boy...

Last edited Fri Jul 12, 2024, 05:49 PM - Edit history (1)

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1811828418503409910.html
(Dirk Schwenk)

So let's get this straight. Justice Thomas went to Russia, in secret, with Harlan Crow. The trip included a helicopter ride to a palace in St. Petersburg. It took place in 2003. This is the first known yacht trip. Let's examine the implications. A thread.


First, a rich american with a SCOTUS justice doesn't just show up unannounced and fly a helicopter into St. Petersburg. That shxt requires advanced notice and clearance AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL - so at minimum Putin and the Kremlin spy and kompromat operatives knew about this.


Thomas reportedly had a porn fetish, which means that the SVR could KNOW about his personal fantasies and preferences - which means he would be an easy mark for a honey-trap.


Harlan Crow and the billionaire class also knew these things for certain - they were on trips with him that he did not disclose. They personally bribed him. They knew. Imagine the power you can wield if you can destroy a SCOTUS justice who got out of line. That's power.


Meanwhile Harlan Crow's brother IS RUNNING AN EPSTEIN RING and I can't find a single story about it in the press since 2023. dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1…


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12777789/trammell-crow-brother-harlan-crow-sex-trafficking-network.html

So the billionaire class is running sex/kompromat rings and taking SCOTUS justices to Russia AND NO ONE IS DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT (except Sen. Whitehouse a little bit and Biden is at least holding the line).

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Clarence Thomas, Russia, Harlan Crow's brother's sex ring... Whoo boy... (Original Post) jmbar2 Jul 2024 OP
Hey, they've gotta do something with all that money. brush Jul 2024 #1
The children and the powerless... Hope22 Jul 2024 #2
Epstein ring? What's that all about? live love laugh Jul 2024 #3
See the link jmbar2 Jul 2024 #4
The passing of the pedophile Olympic torch. rubbersole Jul 2024 #6
It's only a trap if you want to get out. tanyev Jul 2024 #5
Long Dong Silver has a porn addiction? IMPOSSIBLE!!! Blue Owl Jul 2024 #7
I looked up perv and found Mr. Crow's photo CurtEastPoint Jul 2024 #8
JFC!!! Does he use Anal-ease as hair gel? Could a mofo look creepier? Comfortably_Numb Jul 2024 #12
If you click on the link TommyT139 Jul 2024 #27
Skeevy. And, I used to have a ponytail. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jul 2024 #38
LOL h2ebits Jul 2024 #45
Yikes! evolves Jul 2024 #18
I will say that's it is believable. flying_wahini Jul 2024 #9
Cosmopolitan magazine has more about the Venture Sex Ring MagickMuffin Jul 2024 #10
Why are so many men so fking gross? How the hell can you ever trust any of them? OMGWTF Jul 2024 #28
If Project 2025... GiqueCee Jul 2024 #39
ahhh! been waiting for a chance to post this Kali Jul 2024 #44
BOOM! Even better details. Grins Jul 2024 #42
The article mostly covers Trammel Crow, Harlan Crow's brother MagickMuffin Jul 2024 #43
This sounds like an episode of The Boys Aviation Pro Jul 2024 #11
Yep. "Truth is stranger than fiction." not fooled Jul 2024 #46
I found a court filing as of Mar 2024, I think it is a reply to a statement of claim Bev54 Jul 2024 #13
Interesting find and resource. Bookmarking! jmbar2 Jul 2024 #14
I always thought there was fire behind the smoke that Cawthorn threw out there LiberalLovinLug Jul 2024 #15
I think that he thought that he could use markodochartaigh Jul 2024 #37
So Sarah Ferguson was married to Prince Andrew, right? Trueblue Texan Jul 2024 #16
Yes, she's Randy Andy's ex-wife, and the mother of their 2 grown daughters. ShazzieB Jul 2024 #31
It may be time to get the guillotines out again. paleotn Jul 2024 #17
Didn't Anita Hill talk about Thomas mentioning porn? japple Jul 2024 #19
Long dong. Long gone from most memories BattleRow Jul 2024 #23
Most definitely. Pinback Jul 2024 #24
Abysmally unappealing BattleRow Jul 2024 #30
I always assumed it was $$$$$$$$ and connections RandomNumbers Jul 2024 #35
Yes, her family had money and were politically involved and connected. Bluethroughu Jul 2024 #41
Fugly Uncle Thomas is as dirty as they come. OMGWTF Jul 2024 #20
Well, you know the old saying, "the bigger they are, the greater number they implicate." jaxexpat Jul 2024 #21
hem. AllaN01Bear Jul 2024 #22
Darkness, darkness, darkness (R) BoRaGard Jul 2024 #25
Perverts, all. Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #26
There just is NO accountability despite "No one is above the law" crap. It is abundantly clear that is untrue. n/t Evolve Dammit Jul 2024 #29
Very true as stated. republianmushroom Jul 2024 #33
And well known for a long time, by most people who are "the wrong shade of tan" RandomNumbers Jul 2024 #36
Ethics (?), morals (?), not here. republianmushroom Jul 2024 #32
That Russian Ruse? czarjak Jul 2024 #34
The lawsuit names TRAMMELL S. CROW, JR, not his father.... reACTIONary Jul 2024 #40
 

brush

(61,033 posts)
1. Hey, they've gotta do something with all that money.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 04:44 PM
Jul 2024

Good work on Sen. Whitehouse's part. I understand AOC is on the case too as she's preparing articles of impeachment for Thomas and Alito. She might uncover similar information also.

Hope22

(4,746 posts)
2. The children and the powerless...
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 04:52 PM
Jul 2024

Why our hearts don’t break is beyond me……….💔💔

rubbersole

(11,223 posts)
6. The passing of the pedophile Olympic torch.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 05:01 PM
Jul 2024

Unlimited money will get you anything. If the real stories of these sociopaths was ever told...

tanyev

(49,297 posts)
5. It's only a trap if you want to get out.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 05:00 PM
Jul 2024

Clarence Thomas has probably never wanted to get out of line.

TommyT139

(2,357 posts)
27. If you click on the link
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 06:50 PM
Jul 2024

... you'll see that he has a ponytail.

I'll leave it to you to decide whether it makes him look cool or skeevy.

flying_wahini

(8,275 posts)
9. I will say that's it is believable.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 05:21 PM
Jul 2024

Just wish someone besides the Daily Mail was talking about it. I’m not real sure about them.

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
10. Cosmopolitan magazine has more about the Venture Sex Ring
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 05:23 PM
Jul 2024

From this 2024, January
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/lifestyle/a46490439/sex-trafficking-ring-julia-hubbard-kayla-goedinghaus/


Editor’s note: This story contains graphic descriptions of sexual violence, battery, exploitation, suicidal thoughts, and child endangerment. It draws from extensive interviews with both women, conducted between August 2023 and January 2024, and reflects their experiences and voices. Other details are taken from allegations in an ongoing lawsuit filed in U.S. district court—allegations that most of the defendants deny; other defendants had not responded to the lawsuit’s allegations or to Cosmopolitan’s request for comment at press time. In early January, a number of defendants—including one of the physicians alleged to have prescribed Julia Hubbard drugs—were voluntarily dismissed with the women’s consent.



OMGWTF

(5,131 posts)
28. Why are so many men so fking gross? How the hell can you ever trust any of them?
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 06:51 PM
Jul 2024

I'm happily married to a good guy but if I became single, I would never date again. Women don't need men or their evil bullshit. We have our own money, our own houses, our own friends, and our own fun. I support the South Korean womens' 4B movement against the patriarchy -- no dating, no sex, no marriage, and no babies.

Be thankful we only want equality and not payback.

GiqueCee

(4,259 posts)
39. If Project 2025...
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 11:06 AM
Jul 2024

... ever gets instituted, your own money, your own houses, your own credit cards, you ow right to vote, will be history. Many of its proponents have publicly stated exactly these goals.

You can practically smell Crow's evil through your monitor.

Grins

(9,459 posts)
42. BOOM! Even better details.
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 01:17 PM
Jul 2024

Only read part of it but didn’t see connection to Clarence; a HUGE miss by author if it’s not there.

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
43. The article mostly covers Trammel Crow, Harlan Crow's brother
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 01:23 PM
Jul 2024


The Crow’s are extremely powerful here in Texas and have money to burn!




not fooled

(6,680 posts)
46. Yep. "Truth is stranger than fiction."
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 05:04 PM
Jul 2024

Although The Boys' hair and makeup would have second thoughts about that ponytail.

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
13. I found a court filing as of Mar 2024, I think it is a reply to a statement of claim
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 05:32 PM
Jul 2024

The case is showing pending in the Texas courts


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LiberalLovinLug

(14,689 posts)
15. I always thought there was fire behind the smoke that Cawthorn threw out there
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 05:42 PM
Jul 2024
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/28/politics/madison-cawthorn-orgy-invite-cocaine-claim/index.html

CNN —

North Carolina Republican Rep. Madison Cawthorn claimed that he has been invited to an orgy in Washington and had personally seen leaders in the efforts to curb drug addiction doing cocaine.


Why was this story dropped like a hot potato by the MSM at the time?

To me it sounded like Cawthorn was shocked that his own party was engaging in such immoral behaviour. He was young, a true believer, and convinced of his party's moral superiority and blurted it out before GOP handlers painted him as a troubled lunatic. The MSM just agreed and moved on

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
37. I think that he thought that he could use
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 10:13 AM
Jul 2024

the information to knock others off the ladder and advance his career. I think that he is convinced of his, and his party's, moral superiority not because of what they do or not do, but because of who they are.

Trueblue Texan

(4,468 posts)
16. So Sarah Ferguson was married to Prince Andrew, right?
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 05:42 PM
Jul 2024

Prince Andrew was implicated in the Epstein files. I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but is there more than that connection here?

ShazzieB

(22,592 posts)
31. Yes, she's Randy Andy's ex-wife, and the mother of their 2 grown daughters.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 08:03 PM
Jul 2024

Last edited Sat Jul 13, 2024, 12:41 AM - Edit history (1)

They got divorced after the British tabloids turned being a royal into a living hell for her (kind of like with Diana, but they were even more vicious with Sarah, going after her about things like her weight). It's my understanding that she and Andrew have maintained a romantic relationship since the divorce, but I don't believe Sarah has any connection to Epstein other than her ex-husband's association with him, if that's what you're asking.

As far as I know, her name has never come up in connection with Andrew's Epstein-related shenanigans. I suspect she may adopted a "don't ask/don't tell" position regarding his "extracurricular" activities, but as to any personal involvement or even direct knowledge, I feel that's pretty unlikely.

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
17. It may be time to get the guillotines out again.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 05:43 PM
Jul 2024

for a Robespierre like house cleaning. To modify Jefferson...."The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and billionaires. It is it’s natural manure"

Ironically, from the same letter to John Adams son in law, Jefferson wasn't terribly happy that our then new constitution granted SCOTUS justices lifetime appointments....

"I do not know whether it is to yourself or Mr. Adams I am to give my thanks for the copy of the new constitution. I beg leave through you to place them where due. It will be yet three weeks before I shall receive them from America. There are very good articles in it: and very bad. I do not know which preponderate. What we have lately read in the history of Holland, in the chapter on the Stadtholder, would have sufficed to set me against a Chief magistrate eligible for a long duration, if I had ever been disposed towards one"

https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/tree-liberty-quotation/

japple

(10,459 posts)
19. Didn't Anita Hill talk about Thomas mentioning porn?
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 05:52 PM
Jul 2024

I'm just going from ancient memory, but wasn't there a comment about Long Dong Silver?

BattleRow

(2,450 posts)
23. Long dong. Long gone from most memories
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 06:30 PM
Jul 2024

Yes,I Do recall watching those live hearings and the references to Long Dong...

Pinback

(13,600 posts)
24. Most definitely.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 06:33 PM
Jul 2024

That was the title of a porn movie he mentioned to her. There was also some bizarre thing about Thomas supposedly finding a pubic hair on top of a Coke can on his desk when Hill was alone with him in his office at the EEOC and asking her, “Who put this pubic hair on my Coke?” This may have just been his way of humiliating her, since she’d rebuffed his invitations to go on dates with him, her boss at the time. Truly a screwed-up (not to mention unethical) dude.

Anita Hill is and was such a serious, straight-arrow, sober woman that a) it’s ludicrous that Thomas would pull this shit with her and b) it’s impossible to disbelieve her.

BattleRow

(2,450 posts)
30. Abysmally unappealing
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 07:53 PM
Jul 2024

I always wondered what appealed to his wife..is she is questionably as "quirky" as her husband..pervs of a feather perv together?

RandomNumbers

(19,156 posts)
35. I always assumed it was $$$$$$$$ and connections
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 09:08 AM
Jul 2024

But I don't know anything about her except her political shenanigans. If she already had the $$$$$ maybe it was just the connections.

I think at that level, don't ask don't tell has always been a thing and always will be. "You can play how you want if I get to play how I want." I'm not even criticizing that sort of arrangement, but I never assume love or physical attraction has to be there for these people.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
41. Yes, her family had money and were politically involved and connected.
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 12:21 PM
Jul 2024

Frontline from PBS has a great documentary about them. It's on YouTube for free.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
21. Well, you know the old saying, "the bigger they are, the greater number they implicate."
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 06:15 PM
Jul 2024

Evolve Dammit

(21,777 posts)
29. There just is NO accountability despite "No one is above the law" crap. It is abundantly clear that is untrue. n/t
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 07:09 PM
Jul 2024

RandomNumbers

(19,156 posts)
36. And well known for a long time, by most people who are "the wrong shade of tan"
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 09:10 AM
Jul 2024

in this country.

reACTIONary

(7,165 posts)
40. The lawsuit names TRAMMELL S. CROW, JR, not his father....
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 11:26 AM
Jul 2024

.... JR is the brother of CT's pall. So this SEEMS to be TC's pall's nephew? The reporting, tweeting, and inuendo does not seem to be very careful with the details. Seems high on the innuendo scale to me.

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