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[Ocelot II]

1. No, they should be mocked and derided.

I think they will soon have big blobs of egg on their faces.

[JohnSJ]

2. Only after the Democratic Convention officially nominates him.

[Sympthsical]

3. Uh

Is everyone ok? It doesn't feel like everyone's ok.

[Intractable]

4. How do we not mention Nancy Pelosi?

This decision is well above my pay grade.

I will support whoever runs on the Dem ticket.

[msongs]

5. she didnt say joe biden should drop out nt

[Intractable]

11. No, she only strongly implied it. It's been in the news for days. She's the highest profile Dem to raise doubts

about Biden.

[LuvLoogie]

15. No, she is angling to keep Jeffries' coalition together

Remember how she tolerated a new AOC? I ain't mad at Nancy.

SHE and Hakeem held the line and the bulk of Democrats together. She didn't need to embarrass the weak-kneed "centrists". They embarrassed themselves.

[Frasier Balzov]

16. Does Nancy Pelosi post on DU?

It's purely academic to talk about banning her.

[Intractable]

20. The OP is academic in nature.

[EndlessWire]

22. You know what?

Maybe she wasn't saying one way or another because she didn't want to pressure him if he wanted to quit. Isn't she 80-something herself? I just think that she was giving him room to decide for himself, even if a lot of people want him to stay. She knows what it's like to be older. Doesn't mean she wants him to quit.

[Intractable]

31. He has clearly said he has decided. But, Pelosi is still keeping the door open.

That makes me think she believes he should drop out.

She should clearly support him in his decision, or otherwise avoid being interviewed on news programs thus continuing this unnecessary drama.

[canetoad]

47. You are wrong

Nancy Pelosi said directly and unequivocably that the decision was Joe's to make. She didn't hint, nudge-nudge, or leave doors ajar. I repeat. Her message was that it's Joe's decision.

[Intractable]

49. I watch the news. You are the one who is blatently mistaken.

Her message is that it's still his decision, but he has already decided. Have yourself a good day.

[former9thward]

32. Not what she said.

She said it was his decision to make. She said that after he has said a hundred times he is staying in. Clearly that decision is not the decision she wants to hear.

[wnylib]

39. I think that she was sending a message to

the people calling for Biden to drop out that it is his decision to make, not theirs, and not the donors.

[gopiscrap]

6. yes FUCK 'EM

[Irish_Dem]

7. Too hard to remember exactly who said exactly what.

And perhaps soon people will start walking some of the talk back.

Also I don't think we should have a purge list of Democrats.

Too polarizing and divisive, and we are in the fight of our lives.
We need all hands on deck.

Maybe they will change their tune.

[LuvLoogie]

17. I think we should allow that there are sleeper rat fuckers in our ranks.

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They showed their asses.

[duckworth969]

25. Here, here!

Dig that straight talk

[Irish_Dem]

48. Yes and no.

I agree there are some sleepers.

But some good people were legitimately shocked and upset after the debate.
They needed some time to settle down and see there are no miracle options.

[ananda]

18. Well said! Totally agree!

It's not really necessary since the people
are behind Joe!

[Celerity]

41. a current list of elected Dems publicly calling for Biden to drop out

No Labels Problem Solvers in bold (Italics if a Blue Dog ex Problem Solver)

Senate

Peter Welch, D-Vt.( was in the Problem Solvers in the House, there is no Problems Solvers Caucus in the Senate, but Manchin and Sinema coordinate with the House ones, and Sinema was a PS when she was in the House)

House:

Mike Levin, D-Calif.
Brittany Pettersen, D-Colo.
Jim Himes, D-Conn.
Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, D-Wash.
Scott Peters, D-Calif.
Eric Sorensen, D-Ill.
Greg Stanton, D-Ariz.
Ed Case, D-Hawaii (Blue Dog Coalition)
Brad Schneider, D-Ill.
Hillary Scholten, D-Mich.
Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore.
Pat Ryan, D-N.Y.
Mikie Sherrill, D-N.J. (ex PS)
Adam Smith, D-Wash.
Angie Craig, D-Minn.
Mike Quigley, D-Ill.
Seth Moulton, D-Mass.
Raúl Grijalva, D-Ariz.
Lloyd Doggett, D-Texas

[LisaL]

8. No.

We need to know what we are up against.

[Kaleva]

9. Why don't we just chill and let things run it's course?

Nobody here, except maybe one , is in a position to influence the outcome . Whatever it maybe.

But then folks will say this is a discussion board and we should be able to express our opinions which is true as long we follow the TOS.

So we discuss things. Including what the OP would like to prohibit

[MaryMagdaline]

10. No. I like to make fun of them.

These 10 days have been painful, but I like the grass roots Democrats punching some of our elites in the face for once. It’s not a bad look for us either.

[Tree Lady]

12. I am hoping media moves on next week during convention

and by the time its over the dems have settled back in line with joe or at very least shut up! If that doesn't happen they are going to make sure he loses, if they take it to the convention in August we are screwed total mess.

So my fingers are crossed.

[brooklynite]

13. The rules say we must support the nominee...

That has yet to happen.

If Democratic elected officials and candidates say that Biden should, of his own volition, step aside, hiding the fact doesn’t change it.

[maxrandb]

23. Ooooohhh! I love to dance a little sidestep

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[choie]

36. That's right

that way we can find out who we need to primary.

[edisdead]

40. Now that is a peculiar take....

[gab13by13]

14. Who gets to make the list?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

43. Me

[nolabear]

19. No. Discussion is discussion.

We’re not just a cult or a rally space. And we need to know what’s out there. If it includes bashing, then alert.

[maxrandb]

21. I just want DU to enforce the rule against "fighting about the last presidential primary"

It's still on the books, and this primary is OVER!

[Butterflylady]

24. No

I want to rub their noses in it after we win the whole game.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

26. I have been annoyed by

The centrist and rightward tilted dems for ages why does it not surprise me they have such wobbly knees now.


I am supporting the dem no matter who it is because fuck fascism.

[claudette]

52. Me, too

[Renew Deal]

27. Censorship is the only answer

[Deek1935]

28. Yes. He is the nominee and has said over and over and over again that he is IN. So yes, enough.

[msongs]

29. thanks for the input. results mixed nt

[yorkster]

30. We should work on 'em to come on back.

We need them in the house and Senate.
But keep your eye on them for the future...

[solara]

33. At the very least

The Democratic Party turn-coats should all be primaried in the next election.

This election I plan to vote for President Biden and VP Harris.. and every Democratic candidate down the line. It's too important and necessary to keep our President exactly where he is the most effective for We The People and to take back the House and the Senate.

[Turbineguy]

34. Hopefully it will turn out to be a monetary lapse of reason.

[mahina]

35. No

We are going to need
Each
Other

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219144291

[LexVegas]

37. Ja wohl! nt

[farmboy]

38. Why are so many of us sounding as vile and bullying as MAGATs?

The only posts I’ve read that said they wouldn’t support the Democratic nominee in November are some that said they would not vote for our nominee UNLESS it is President Biden. You can have strong opinions about how best for Democrats to win without sounding like a Republican wanting to ban something or someone or discussing the fun of getting revenge on fellow democrats who want the same final outcome as you for which party has to win. I really feel Trump’s effect on DUs dialogue and discussion. Yuck.

[Celerity]

42. a handful of really new accounts post at massive levels and just rant, scream (all caps) and curse, super aggro style

btw

this stance you pointed out:

some that said they would not vote for our nominee UNLESS it is President Biden

is absolutely against DU TOS

[LeftInTX]

45. About 25 Democrats in the House and Senate are asking Biden to withdraw

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4ngd0dve6lo

Doggett, Grijalva, Moulton, Quigley, Craig, Adam Smith, Sherrill, Pat Ryan, Blumenauer, Scholten, Schneider, Case, Stanton, Himes, Peters, Sorensen, Perez, Levin, Pettersen, Torres, Schiff, Raskin
Sen: Welch, Bennett, Brown, Tester, Murray

[LeftInTX]

44. We've had conversations about Rashida Tlaib. How are these conversations any different?

Actually these elected officials are worse because they're telling Biden, who won the primary, to quit the race. One congress member wants him to pull a Richard Nixon and resign from office immediately. Don't ask go..just give it all up and get out of town...

[tritsofme]

46. I think that would be a ridiculous head-in-the-sand moment.

I truly believe that the White House and congressional Democrats will be on the same page soon. This isn’t a rift that is going to follow us into election day. Some members feel the need to vent, and they are typically in tough races, I really don’t believe that any major Democratic elected official who has spoken out is acting in bad faith, or actually wants another Trump term, in fact, I think it is quite the opposite.

[sammythecat]

50. No. n/t

[claudette]

51. No