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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat is it about the GOP/Trump that is so attractive to the "bro culture"?
By that I mean everything from the lacrosse guys to working class guys, blue collar auto mechanics, etc. Hell, theres a local strip club advertising for Trump.
Democrats are seen as uncool, environmentalists, sexual deviants, egg heads, etc by these people.
A lot of the Trump bro culture voters wont show up for the polls once hes not on the ballot anymore. Why is he so damn appealing to them?
Ocelot II
(130,516 posts)Men who want to be able to grab women by the p$&&y and get away with it.
B.See
(8,493 posts)PeaceWave
(3,383 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,129 posts)It's all about the mentality. No brains!
jmbar2
(7,986 posts)They think they should all be kings, without having to answer to anyone else.
IA8IT
(6,423 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)CoopersDad
(3,329 posts)So that bullies and many victims of bullying are attracted to demonstrations of power, anger, oppression.
Thus, giant trucks and SUVs are sold in ever greater numbers as a tacit form of intimidating other drivers, as one example.
OrlandoDem2
(3,234 posts)I wish we could reach these people but I dont want their bullying an misogyny.
tanyev
(49,284 posts)CrispyQ
(40,969 posts)You know, the ones who put themselves at the top of the hierarchy cuz they're so certain they're superior to the rest of us, even as we stand on an ecological brink brought about by their policies.
LakeArenal
(29,949 posts)When white men thought they can punch women and keep them in their place.
spanone
(141,602 posts)machoneman
(4,128 posts)hatrack
(64,878 posts)They want to be the rich guy who runs over the irritating panhandler and just drives away.
The want to be the lane-splitter, or the guy who runs the red light and slips the cop $200 and then drives off without consequences.
They want to slash the tires of the high school English teacher who flunked them for plagiarism and not get caught.
They want to cut in line at the grocery, and then tell the cashier to fuck herself when she calls them on it, and then smash their six of Natural Light on the floor and walk off into the sunset.
They want to do whatever they want, whenever they want and never have to pay for what they do. That's why they like Trump. He's what they dream of being.
Celerity
(54,404 posts)Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)Deep down they know they are losers, but they try to compensate for that with shows of toxic masculinity. They feel that, as Penis-Americans, they are entitled to control women and oppress "the others" to make themselves feel powerful and that they are deserving of the special status that males held in the past. I believe that all these toxic males are unable to deal with the fact that modern society largely doesn't need the skills identified with men nearly as much as it previously did, namely brute force and aggression. In fact, male aggression is literally killing us (gun massacres, etc.).
tulipsandroses
(8,251 posts)They don't like that it's "harder "for them. . They don't like that they have to compete to get into schools. Compete to get that prime spot in just the right firm after graduation. (Even though they still have an overwhelming advantage). It used to be that they were always a lock to get into the "right school and right job". Now, they have to compete against women and minorities that are just as or even more qualified.
It's so hard for white men. Gimme an effin break.
OrlandoDem2
(3,234 posts)We go to LAX camps regularly and do all the travel club sports etc. I go to football games, love nice cars, and can hang with any bro. Maybe its that Im educated? I dunno. I dont get it.
flamingdem
(40,888 posts)? Los Angeles International Airport ?
Metaphorical
(2,634 posts)nt
Dave in VA
(2,285 posts)and will save them from the "others."
It is quite simple most of the time.
Bluesaph
(1,026 posts)And some dont even realize they hate. And some have self hatred.
Klarkashton
(5,292 posts)They are convinced that communists are coming to take their guns and F350s and Trump is the only one that can stop them. It's so stupid.
Arne
(3,609 posts)Thanx for pointing that out.
JI7
(93,615 posts)Emile
(42,281 posts)Pornstars.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,953 posts)Vinca
(53,986 posts)because they'll be looking at 18 years of child support since women won't have an option of whether to have the kid or not.
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DinahMoeHum
(23,604 posts)and that's what the MAGAs are aiming at for votes.
underpants
(196,490 posts)I am shocked at the influence and audience Tate has. That worries me more about my daughters world than guns or living in the city (Richmond). I love the city. Those people are out there and there are a lot of them. I dont think a lot of people here or in the media understand the pull that world has. Portnoy, to me, is a wink and a nod at it without touching it directly.
flamingdem
(40,888 posts)To list a few.
Even Bill Maher has jumped on the replace Biden train.
Colbert, Jon Stewart - cultural figures are dissing Biden
Male, white cultural figures.
MOMFUDSKI
(7,080 posts)skin. We are actually in a civil war as we post.
demosincebirth
(12,826 posts)OrlandoDem2
(3,234 posts)Generally, but not exclusively, fraternities, sports, parties with the boys. Youd have to read up on it on the web. Its one of those things you know when you see.
They tend to be very MAGA conservative.
DinahMoeHum
(23,604 posts). . . among the venture capitalists and company founders out there.
They're "Exhibit A" for this kind of behavior, IMO.
allegorical oracle
(6,479 posts)and regulations, gun control efforts, and incarceration systems.
Sadly, this population's grievances have been stoked by everyone from Reagan to New Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh. Then Fox News defined them as "patriots". They were further reignited by Obama's election, which spawned the Tea Party.
In 2016 they were thrilled because the massive chips on their collective shoulders were recognized and validated.
underpants
(196,490 posts)Things changed too fast for them. It didnt really affect them but they became convinced it did. Fox did a day of coverage of their big event from 4 or 5 different cities.
I really think it started with the Iraq war. It became overwhelmingly obvious that it was based on lies and going horribly wrong.
Then the Great Recession 2008.
The most white establishment guys, whod always been in charge, failed completely. Theses people had been programmed to trust them because thats howd it had always been.
Then a black guy is President.
Then, not only was being gay an easy joke/abuse, gays were being celebrated. Allowed in TV openly.
Then gays could marry.
Too much. Just too much for them.
In that situation, new people sweep in to say these people are right, theyll change it back, YOU PEOPLE will be the rightful owners again and THOSE PEOPLE will know their place.
WarGamer
(18,613 posts)But in my former career I worked with a lot of talented and well educated Engineers, M.D.'s and Ph.D's...
Some were Trump supporters.
They tended to be Libertarian-ish types...
Had a discussion with one of them... he compared Trump to Daenerys from Game of Thrones. He said like Daenerys, he's trying to "break the wheel" meaning to stop the perpetual cycle of abuse of the State waged against the common man.
I reminded him that Daenerys went crazy in the end and became a mass murderer.
tinrobot
(12,061 posts)- Real wages and earning power have gone down, making them feel like they're falling behind.
_They see people with better educations getting ahead.
- They (wrongly) point to affirmative action as a way for others to get ahead when they can't.
- They see their masculinity threatened by women who are now seen as equals.
The reduction in blue collar jobs and wages only amplifies these wrongly-placed feelings. In turn, the threat of job loss and poverty makes people do crazy things.
If we actually had good paying blue collar jobs, a lot of their dissatisfaction would go away.
Initech
(108,772 posts)edisdead
(3,396 posts)And just general crudeness.