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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am profoundly grateful that Trump was not killed or seriously injured
I do not, never have, and never will support any kind of political violence. NEVER. This was a tragedy. If I did thoughts and prayers, they'd go out to the victims.
I am grateful that the Secret Service was able to dispatch the shooter and get Trump to safety.
I don't care right now about the implications for the election. I just want to condemn this in the strongest possible terms. I hope all of us can do the same.
Kali
(56,829 posts)that asshole is directly responsible for a lot of death, sickness, disruption and destruction. I wish he was dead.
I just joined this site. I dont know if I need to be here. This is a twisted post.
have a nice day
Lower_Jumper
(15 posts)You are wishing a person was killed. Am I getting that right? A former President of the United States.
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SunImp
(2,706 posts)But you have to understand that his policies & inactions have led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. If he was a better President way less people would have died from COVID, George Floyd protests wouldn't have any problems, he wouldn't be leading in Drone strikes & we would be less fearful of climate change. I don't blame the original poster for wishing ill will on Trump because like me he probably has some love ones who unfortunately believed in Trump's lies & may have distanced themselves from them or died from COVID.
Trueblue Texan
(4,468 posts)I wish the fucker would die, but only of natural causes. And I pray it will be painful. But I do not wish Trump or anyone else to die from political violence.
agingdem
(8,851 posts)Death by flesh eating disease/massive coronary/lethal stroke yes
Wuddles440
(2,094 posts)This vile monstrosity has inflicted tremendous pain and suffering on humanity throughout his miserable life and especially so since he entered the political arena.
we can do it
(13,024 posts)Blue Full Moon
(3,486 posts)Blue Full Moon
(3,486 posts)SoFlaBro
(3,790 posts)Response to Lower_Jumper (Reply #16)
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triron
(22,240 posts)True Dough
(26,674 posts)-"When the looting starts, the shooting starts."
-To the Proud Boys: "Stand back and stand by."
-The comment was a reference to phone calls [Gen. Mark] Milley made to his counterpart in China toward the end of Trumps term, including after the Jan. 6 Capitol attack, that were meant to give reassurance to the U.S.'s chief adversary.
Trump described the calls as a treasonous act for which in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH!
-Trump Says Police Violence Against Journalists Is Actually A Beautiful Sight
-Trump calls for police to shoot shoplifters as they leave the store
I hope your condemnation of that Orange Shit Stain was just as song as your protestation in this thread!
Dem4life1234
(2,533 posts)Did not give a flying dick when they almost hanged his VP.
Never forget Jan 6
He's a hateful POS
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Hope22
(4,746 posts)And January 6th. That had a to shake you up.
Xipe Totec
(44,558 posts)The last thing we need is a martyr.
As much as I oppose everything he stands for, I want him to live through a humiliating political defeat and then be convicted and spend the rest of his life in jail for the crimes he has committed.
The whole point of democracy is to resolve conflict without violence.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,484 posts)Also seen as a god figure.
dem_4_lyfe
(33 posts)bdamomma
(69,532 posts)Yes, speak your mind.
niyad
(132,446 posts)So. . not caring if they live or die is NOT a moral equivalency, but thanks for trying.
reACTIONary
(7,165 posts)... be sure to speak your mind without fear.
Dem4life1234
(2,533 posts)Save your sympathy.
We are tired.
Dem4life1234
(2,533 posts)John Shaft
(808 posts)orange jar
(878 posts)The former is vague and includes natural causes; the second turns us into a banana republic.
Kali
(56,829 posts)but if there is one...
Lower_Jumper
(15 posts)in what you are posting.
I doubt Im the only one bold enough to be saying this, but if I am, so be it!
ms liberty
(11,237 posts)Kali just expressed pleasure at the thought of the convicted felon and rapist being unalive.
She's not the only member here who will express joy at that monster's demise.
canetoad
(20,769 posts)Express, if not pleasure, total indifference.
niyad
(132,446 posts)canetoad
(20,769 posts)In a cyber-celebration.
niyad
(132,446 posts)Lower_Jumper
(15 posts)who wished, and hoped for, the demise of another human being.
Is it ok if I root for the demise of someone you know? Is this how that works? Can I applaud the death of one of your family members? Is it ok on this site to wish for prison rape of people we dont like?
Im new here and just want to know what this site is about after seeing some of these posts.
ms liberty
(11,237 posts)Do you like pizza?
Xavier Breath
(6,640 posts)niyad
(132,446 posts)niyad
(132,446 posts)was correct.
reACTIONary
(7,165 posts).... the one's who he is objecting to are on much shakier ground.
ms liberty
(11,237 posts)And the poster I replied to was talking about the Secret Service, not DU's TOS.
reACTIONary
(7,165 posts)... is what happens for a violation of the TOS. That is what you were suggesting wasn't it? I suggest you be more kind and open minded toward new comers.
ms liberty
(11,237 posts)reACTIONary
(7,165 posts)... to respond to posts that I don't like.
GenThePerservering
(3,379 posts)TommyT139
(2,357 posts)For instance, if you take a cursory glance at some more recent threads, you'll see that rethugs are already fomenting violence.
Alas, Trump getting hit with shards of teleprompter glass -- yes, he's lying about being "shot" -- is already something he's lying about. He wasn't shot, but he sure got one of his followers killed. That person's family deserves condolences. Trump deserves only condemnation.
triron
(22,240 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(16,411 posts)I don't agree with it personally. I don't think political violence is ever okay.
niyad
(132,446 posts)Hope22
(4,746 posts)Welcome back!
niyad
(132,446 posts)Response to Hope22 (Reply #43)
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niyad
(132,446 posts)observing our discussions, starting back in chimpy's days. So we would acknowledge them periodically.
thebigidea
(13,577 posts)It wasn't a joke or snark. She claimed it was a specific individual.
niyad
(132,446 posts)long before this harris person (whoever she is), and it means exactly what I said it means, to me, at any rate.
orleans
(36,924 posts)hitler wannabes and sharing your deep assumptions of the secret service and various shit you believe they are interested in. it's almost as if you are PSYCHIC!!!
reminds me of the little gadflies that we used to collect, wayyyyy back.
GenThePerservering
(3,379 posts)ShazzieB
(22,591 posts)I may not clap if something happened to him, but I certainly am aware of the harm they would bring to millions should they worm themselves back into power.
I haven't forgotten how they gloated when Paul Pelosi was attacked with a hammer.
I also am horrified about the number of women who have and who will die because of this idiot's justices on the Supreme Court. They don't give a shit if women bleed to death in hospital emergency rooms, because doctors are too afraid to provide the care they need. And they don't give a goddamn about EMTALA laws
No, No. . . I might not clap, but I am not going to grieve, and I certainly DO care about who wins this election.
And one last thing. . . It's sad people died at this rally. But I have enough violence going on in my own community to worry about. Cheeto and his minions don't believe in ANY form of gun control. When there is no gun control, gun violence tends to increase.
bdamomma
(69,532 posts)he was very quick to ask about shooting BLM peaceful protestors during George Floyd protests. And he has already said he will order the National Guard to squash any peaceful protestors. Project 2025 is his mantra.
orleans
(36,924 posts)bdamomma
(69,532 posts)when he is around people die???? We've seen a lot of that, Pandemic, Insurrection and now this. And that fist in the air??? is that his rallying cry? or that he survived?
Ahpook
(2,777 posts)He is a fucking monster, but let's let him lose the election. He will and hopefully go into obscurity.
I think a larger problem in our country is the fact that this fucking asshole was ever POTUS and being considered again. Trump is merely a symptom of deeper issues within a corrupt system.
His sorry fucking ass would have been laughed out of any potential run from the start if we had a healthy, productive country.
Come on!
Dem4life1234
(2,533 posts)He is a fascist, we should not care about them.
Best fucking believe if the shoe were on the other foot, they would not give a damn about us.
He would never offer condolences if his opponent were harmed.
All I can say, that shooter was a lousy shot.
No I will not have sympathy for a racist, hate mongerer.
BigDemVoter
(4,700 posts)Just like I get it when I hear people say that they wished Adolph Hitler had been killed before he took power. Sheesh. I wouldn't have shed any tears over Cheeto. If he does, indeed, win, we'll see what a disaster that turns into. This is unprecedented. He was not a normal president. The man is a monster. He is surrounded by monsters. He has been given immunity to do what he wants.
To tut-tut because some of us wouldn't cry over his death is misplaced. It isn't as if we are stating that we wanted to do it. He has called for violence against his political rivals. There's nothing wrong at all in stating the obvious; what goes around comes around.
And for the record, I care GREATLY about the implications of this election. Otherwise, why in the FUCK would I be a member of DU???? Cheeto is not innocent.
gopiscrap
(24,734 posts)we can do it
(13,024 posts)Mme. Defarge
(9,021 posts)Arent there adequate security protocols at these events?
MustLoveBeagles
(16,411 posts)liberal N proud
(61,194 posts)I am struggling with anything more than thoughts and prayers.
I also remain suspect that this isnt something that was staged. I just dont trust trump and the MAGA cult.
mvd
(65,914 posts)therefore cant condone it, Trump elicits no sympathy from me at all.
ShazzieB
(22,591 posts)I can't condone, much less celebrate, an attempt on anyone's life. But if there was ever a person who asked, no, practically begged, for something like this to happen to him, it's TSF.
Tonight, he just received a taste of the virulent hate, anger, divisiveness, and hostility that he has been sending out into the world for years, especially the years since he lost the 2020 election. I'm not at all surprised that some of it finally came back to bite him.
Be not deceived, God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. - Galatians 6: 7 (King James Version; spelling modernized).
GenThePerservering
(3,379 posts)is that it would make his sorry ass a martyr.
Beyond that? Sorry, not sorry.
ecstatic
(35,075 posts)Doodley
(11,914 posts)niyad
(132,446 posts)Polybius
(21,902 posts)niyad
(132,446 posts)According to the F'n, murdering, orange, RAPIST, TRAITOR** and his cultists, I am a nasty woman. Oh well. . . .
Polybius
(21,902 posts)The innocent person was not breaking any laws.
niyad
(132,446 posts)after all, at a Bund rally for their would-be god-emperor-fuhrer, so "innocent" ("presumed" except in the strictest legal sense) is not a word that I generally associate with them.
And kindly spare me any more moralizing. I simply DO NOT CARE what happens to any of them.
Polybius
(21,902 posts)Are you glad that the person at the rally minding his own business was killed, or do you simply not care?
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soandso
(1,631 posts)about the guy you're hating on:
Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro, a Democrat, said in a press conference Sunday that the father of two "died a hero" after diving on top of his family. "He dove protecting his family. Took a bullet for them," Shapiro said.
"We lost a fellow Pennsylvanian last night ... I just spoke to Corey's wife and his two daughters. Corey was a girl-dad. Corey was a firefighter. Corey went to church every Sunday. Corey loved his community. Corey loved his family. He was an avid supporter of the former president and so excited to be there last night with him in the community," Shapiro told the outlet.
Allyson Comperatore, paid tribute to her father, calling him "a real-life superhero."
"He was the best dad a girl could ever ask for. My sister and I never needed for anything .... He could talk and make friends with anyone.
"He loved his family. He truly loved us enough to take a real bullet for us", she wrote, noting that her family has lost "a selfless, loving, husband, father, brother, uncle, son, and friend."
"And I will never stop thinking about him and mourning over him until the day that I die too. July 13th will forever be a day the changed my life. I will never be the same person I was less than 24 hours ago," she wrote.
"Dad I love you so much there aren't enough words to express how deep that love goes."
Comperatore's sister paid tribute to her brother on social media saying:
"He was a hero that shielded his daughters," adding, "My baby brother just turned 50 and had so much life left to experience...Pray for my sister-in-law, nieces, my mother, sister, me and his nieces and nephews as this feels like a terrible nightmare but we know it is our painful reality."
https://www.newsweek.com/corey-comperatore-identified-victim-killed-trump-rally-pennsylvania-fire-chief-1924979
He was a firefighter and I have a special place in my heart for people who go into burning buildings to save others.
I agree with @Polybius. Why? Because to foment such intense hate for anyone we don't know is irrational and devoid of empathy and only diminishes us. You've painted him as a monster and Nazi while the articles about him say just the opposite and what a good person he was and how much he helped others.
Unless we can all get to someplace where we can stop dehumanizing those we don't agree with, we, as a country, are headed for only misery. Look at Europe and their hundreds of years of history of violence and wars against each other. I don't want to see that for us and I would hope that you don't either. I don't claim to know the answers, only that we humans HAVE to find a way out this downward spiral.
snpsmom
(791 posts)I would have viewed the coverage in the same way that I view images of Mussolini strung up after WWII. They are the same to me.
Sunsky
(1,876 posts)beaglelover
(4,466 posts)2 Meow Momma
(6,876 posts)I can empathize with the people that are trumpsters and Im sad that political violence happens here.
This is not the way.
orange jar
(878 posts)It should never be tolerated. Ever. Political violence is as much of a threat to democracy as Trump's policies are.
GenThePerservering
(3,379 posts)I'm surprised this hasn't happened earlier.
IAC, when these magats start caring about dead schoolchildren, I'll start caring about their head thug. Live by the sword...die by the sword and all of that.
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Ontheboundry
(306 posts)Some of these people are no better than the MAGA folks in the way they view humanity
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Ontheboundry
(306 posts)I've been reading this site for about 10 years. The slide into the mid has been accelerating.
However, there is still enough solid stiff being posted I read on
raging moderate
(4,624 posts)Nietzsche was right.
thebigidea
(13,577 posts)Internet snark is not equivalent to the evil the GOP perpetrates.
hadEnuf
(3,616 posts)The same "we shouldn't be like them" attitude that gave us GW Bush, 9/11 and the Iraq war?
The same "we shouldn't be like them" attitude while the GOP blocked and stonewalled SCOTUS judges?
The same "we shouldn't be like them" attitude that gave us the monster Donald Trump?
The same "we shouldn't be like them" attitude while Trump has terrorized the whole country over his sore loser election claims for 4 years?
And now "we shouldn't be like them" while we are looking at the REAL possibility of a fascist style government run by the return of the monster Trump, where the checks and balances are gone, along with the systematic removal of virtually every program that has ever helped anybody?
I dare to say that the "we shouldn't be like them" attitude just ain't working!
demosincebirth
(12,826 posts)human beings, just, trying to do the right thing.
edisdead
(3,396 posts)But I am still rooting for the heart attack.
He actively tries to male peoples live worse and has killed people in the process.
Doodley
(11,914 posts)he would prevent women access to abortions, healthcare or even birth control? How many lives will be ruined, and families btoken up deporting 11 million people living in America. No need for sympathy for that SOAB.
niyad
(132,446 posts)FUCKED UP response to the pandemic?
proud patriot
(102,514 posts)TheDemsshouldhireme
(224 posts)Some of the responses on here today, make me truly ashamed to be part of this site. Makes me realize there are loons on both sides. Political violence shouldn't be hard to condemn, not hard at all. Should be a layup. But apparently some people weren't raised right I guess.
Upthevibe
(10,180 posts)Thank you.............
Trueblue Texan
(4,468 posts)AverageOldGuy
(3,839 posts). . . that Trump was hit by flying glass from the teleprompter, not a bullet. Not that is matters much, but, there it is.
Ocelot II
(130,538 posts)While I sure wouldn't miss him, I don't think political assassinations are the way to go in a democracy.
And the blowback would have been crazy. I think his followers would have tried another 1/6, only worse. It's clear that plenty of them have no problem at all with politically-motivated violence, and I hope Biden's Secret Service detail does a better job than Trump's apparently did.
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reACTIONary
(7,165 posts)... outside of the security parameter on a roof top. I'm not into fire arms, but he must have had some sort of long range sniper rifle.
sop
(18,626 posts)1h ago, Investigation, By Josh Marshall
"As far as we know, what happened today is that a gunman, on a roof of a low building (apparently one story) outside the rally security perimeter, shot at Donald Trump and either hit him with a grazing wound to the ear or, according to other reports, shattered the teleprompter plexiglass and shards of plexiglass struck his ear. Sort of same difference, slightly different modality."
"It appears this person was firing at a relatively long range, estimates Ive heard of 200 or 300 yards. The gunman would presumably need to plan in advance and find a rooftop from which he or she could get a direct line of sight to the stage. Its apparently a low building in an area that is very flat. So you couldnt assume youd have a direct line of sight from a one story building. Theres some advance work required. Not everyone can shoot at that distance. (An AR-15 style weapon has reported been recovered at the scene.) So this isnt a situation like getting a handgun and going into an unsecured environment which almost anyone can do. This requires planning in advance and some level of firearms knowledge. Not everyone could do this."
"From our records the Trump campaign announced this event on July 3rd. So the date and location was known for at least ten days. Thats a relatively short window of time."
"No particular message here, just my effort to think through the amount of advance work required, the time available to do it, and the kinds of skills required to make the attempt."
"Late Update: Newer reports from CNNs Evan Perez say that the building in question was more like 150 yards from the stage and apparently a building, unsecured, right outside the security perimeter. Dont want to get ahead of ourselves. But there are going to be some pretty big questions why that rooftop wasnt secured."
reACTIONary
(7,165 posts)niyad
(132,446 posts)et tu
(2,387 posts)channeling vinnie van gogh i'll have to barf-
LeftInTX
(34,302 posts)Wish it could have been serious enough that he would have missed the convention...
But now, he got hit with a glass shard.
So, he gets all this drama. Fist bump. Macho guy, survives shooting. Gets all the attention. And it turns out he was hit with a glass shard, but of course he's telling everyone it was hit with a bullet.
hay rick
(9,605 posts)LeftInTX
(34,302 posts)Was hoping for at least a sick day or two or three or four....
soandso
(1,631 posts)Some CNN photographer got an amazing, one in a million photo of the bullet whizzing at Trump's head! You can easily find it with a search. Some local politician's son also got a graze wound across his neck.
OverBurn
(1,292 posts)I will not apologize for that, still feel that way. Today hurts democracy in the long run. The sides already hate each other. This ain't gonna help. Unfortunately it may help him get more votes.
Pinback
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(and martyred). I want him defeated and powerless.
I am sorry for the victim who lost his life (and for his friends and family) and for the shooter who wasted his, and I am grateful there was no more carnage.
And I am sorry for those who will live with the trauma of being present at a murder scene an experience far too many Americans have every year.
LostOne4Ever
(9,752 posts)We must NEVER allow that to be the norm!
orangecrush
(30,261 posts)"I am grateful that the Secret Service was able to dispatch the shooter and get Trump to safety."
Does that mean the same thing as riddle with bullets?
reACTIONary
(7,165 posts)GaYellowDawg
(5,101 posts)"Riddle with bullets" is the appropriate fate for an assassin.
NJCher
(43,167 posts)that he not go due to an attempted assassination. No point in giving the other side anything to work with.
The best way would be something like having a heart attack after he sits down to a big bucket of KFC.
LeftInTX
(34,302 posts)True Dough
(26,674 posts)that splatter from his diaper!
LeftInTX
(34,302 posts)Wish it would have been at least a humiliating even.
Guy survives an assassination attempt. At first he appears to have been shot with a minor injury. Instead the wound is no more serious than a razor nick, yet he gets to brag that he survived a gun shot. "Hey I'm super man!"
True Dough
(26,674 posts)He will milk this incident for all that he can. The huckster gets another moment in the sun. Damn!
niyad
(132,446 posts)Warpy
(114,616 posts)I just want to know who the squirrel with the gun was.
Killing political opponents is what they do in Russia.
The far right did it to the left here in the US in the 60s. It didn't work. We're still here.
niyad
(132,446 posts)Warpy
(114,616 posts)I stopped wondering when I heard the shooter was dead but that he'd killws one person and injured two others.
That made it more real than a typical media stunt would have been.
Ligyron
(8,006 posts)Karma.
artemisia1
(1,868 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(4,990 posts)I am not even close to profoundly grateful about this. This is a person I despise with every fiber of my being, a person who has nothing but the worst intentions for the country, who has already done profound damage to the country, who would not hesitate to kill every last one of his perceived enemies if he could.
And Im supposed to be thankful that hes not hurt or dead?
Thats a bridge too far for me.
cheezmaka
(785 posts)Her mom died during covid because of his narcissistic attitude. As bad as I would like to see him out of the race. I'd rather see him lose badly...